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| From | Stefan Monnier <monnier@iro.umontreal.ca> |
|---|---|
| Newsgroups | comp.lang.lisp |
| Subject | Re: symbol-macros -vs- symbol setf-expander |
| Date | 2019-05-31 18:04 -0400 |
| Organization | A noiseless patient Spider |
| Message-ID | <jwv8suml1w0.fsf-monnier+comp.lang.lisp@gnu.org> (permalink) |
| References | <jwv5zq3eh4i.fsf-monnier+comp.lang.lisp@gnu.org> <20190521125844.749@kylheku.com> <20190522125932.721@kylheku.com> <jwv1s0fd9ej.fsf-monnier+comp.lang.lisp@gnu.org> |
> Rather it's just that the user pointed out the close relationship
> between the two: you can implement a "place-alias" like your `letplace`
> using `symbol-macrolet` and you can implement `symbol-macrolet` using
> `letplace` (or so I presume, since we could do that with gv.el's
> equivalent to your `letplace`).
In a sense, `symbol-macrolet` is a kind of "call-by-name" let-binding
(except it doesn't obey lexical scoping), whereas `placelet` is a kind
of "call by reference" let-binding.
> So it made me wonder about this design space and whether maybe someone
> has found something that's "more better" than either of the two.
The CBN/CBV/CBR analogy makes me suspect such a beast doesn't exist.
Stefan
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symbol-macros -vs- symbol setf-expander Stefan Monnier <monnier@iro.umontreal.ca> - 2019-05-21 15:46 -0400
Re: symbol-macros -vs- symbol setf-expander Kaz Kylheku <847-115-0292@kylheku.com> - 2019-05-21 21:25 +0000
Re: symbol-macros -vs- symbol setf-expander Kaz Kylheku <847-115-0292@kylheku.com> - 2019-05-22 20:07 +0000
Re: symbol-macros -vs- symbol setf-expander Stefan Monnier <monnier@iro.umontreal.ca> - 2019-05-30 15:40 -0400
Re: symbol-macros -vs- symbol setf-expander Kaz Kylheku <847-115-0292@kylheku.com> - 2019-05-31 04:51 +0000
Re: symbol-macros -vs- symbol setf-expander "Pascal J. Bourguignon" <pjb@informatimago.com> - 2019-05-31 16:38 +0200
Re: symbol-macros -vs- symbol setf-expander Kaz Kylheku <847-115-0292@kylheku.com> - 2019-05-31 18:42 +0000
Re: symbol-macros -vs- symbol setf-expander "Pascal J. Bourguignon" <pjb@informatimago.com> - 2019-05-31 21:24 +0200
Re: symbol-macros -vs- symbol setf-expander Kaz Kylheku <847-115-0292@kylheku.com> - 2019-06-01 02:34 +0000
Re: symbol-macros -vs- symbol setf-expander Stefan Monnier <monnier@iro.umontreal.ca> - 2019-05-31 18:14 -0400
Re: symbol-macros -vs- symbol setf-expander Kaz Kylheku <847-115-0292@kylheku.com> - 2019-06-01 02:51 +0000
Re: symbol-macros -vs- symbol setf-expander Stefan Monnier <monnier@iro.umontreal.ca> - 2019-06-02 12:16 -0400
Re: symbol-macros -vs- symbol setf-expander Kaz Kylheku <847-115-0292@kylheku.com> - 2019-06-03 01:13 +0000
Re: symbol-macros -vs- symbol setf-expander Stefan Monnier <monnier@iro.umontreal.ca> - 2019-05-31 18:04 -0400
Re: symbol-macros -vs- symbol setf-expander "Pascal J. Bourguignon" <pjb@informatimago.com> - 2019-05-22 22:00 +0200
Re: symbol-macros -vs- symbol setf-expander a.daniel.eliason@gmail.com - 2019-05-23 08:10 -0700
Re: symbol-macros -vs- symbol setf-expander Spiros Bousbouras <spibou@gmail.com> - 2019-05-23 15:22 +0000
Re: symbol-macros -vs- symbol setf-expander Dimitri Fontaine <dim@tapoueh.org> - 2019-05-23 18:02 +0200
Re: symbol-macros -vs- symbol setf-expander Spiros Bousbouras <spibou@gmail.com> - 2019-05-23 16:51 +0000
Re: symbol-macros -vs- symbol setf-expander Kaz Kylheku <847-115-0292@kylheku.com> - 2019-05-23 17:05 +0000
Re: symbol-macros -vs- symbol setf-expander "Pascal J. Bourguignon" <pjb@informatimago.com> - 2019-05-23 19:26 +0200
Re: symbol-macros -vs- symbol setf-expander smh <shaflich@gmail.com> - 2019-05-22 18:47 -0700
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