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| First post | 2016-03-11 02:30 -0800 |
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Wait on keyboard jonas.thornvall@gmail.com - 2016-03-11 02:30 -0800
Re: Wait on keyboard Tim Streater <timstreater@greenbee.net> - 2016-03-11 10:37 +0000
Re: Wait on keyboard jonas.thornvall@gmail.com - 2016-03-11 02:50 -0800
Re: Wait on keyboard jonas.thornvall@gmail.com - 2016-03-11 03:13 -0800
Re: Wait on keyboard jonas.thornvall@gmail.com - 2016-03-11 03:23 -0800
Re: Wait on keyboard jonas.thornvall@gmail.com - 2016-03-11 03:32 -0800
Re: Wait on keyboard jonas.thornvall@gmail.com - 2016-03-11 03:39 -0800
Re: Wait on keyboard jonas.thornvall@gmail.com - 2016-03-11 04:41 -0800
Re: Wait on keyboard jonas.thornvall@gmail.com - 2016-03-11 05:00 -0800
Re: Wait on keyboard jonas.thornvall@gmail.com - 2016-03-11 05:43 -0800
Re: Wait on keyboard Tim Streater <timstreater@greenbee.net> - 2016-03-11 12:13 +0000
Re: Wait on keyboard "Mr. Man-wai Chang" <toylet.toylet@gmail.com> - 2016-03-11 21:52 +0800
Re: Wait on keyboard jonas.thornvall@gmail.com - 2016-03-11 07:29 -0800
Re: Wait on keyboard Stefan Weiss <krewecherl@gmail.com> - 2016-03-11 17:00 +0100
Re: Wait on keyboard Stefan Weiss <krewecherl@gmail.com> - 2016-03-11 17:11 +0100
Re: Wait on keyboard jonas.thornvall@gmail.com - 2016-03-11 08:32 -0800
Re: Wait on keyboard Stefan Weiss <krewecherl@gmail.com> - 2016-03-11 20:20 +0100
Re: Wait on keyboard jonas.thornvall@gmail.com - 2016-03-11 08:55 -0800
Re: Wait on keyboard Aleksandro <aleksandro@gmx.com> - 2016-03-11 16:30 -0300
Re: Wait on keyboard jonas.thornvall@gmail.com - 2016-03-11 11:46 -0800
Re: Wait on keyboard jonas.thornvall@gmail.com - 2016-03-11 12:22 -0800
Re: Wait on keyboard Aleksandro <aleksandro@gmx.com> - 2016-03-11 17:25 -0300
Re: Wait on keyboard jonas.thornvall@gmail.com - 2016-03-11 12:32 -0800
Re: Wait on keyboard Aleksandro <aleksandro@gmx.com> - 2016-03-11 17:42 -0300
Re: Wait on keyboard jonas.thornvall@gmail.com - 2016-03-11 12:52 -0800
Re: Wait on keyboard jonas.thornvall@gmail.com - 2016-03-11 12:47 -0800
Re: Wait on keyboard "Michael Haufe (TNO)" <tno@thenewobjective.com> - 2016-03-11 18:39 -0800
Re: Wait on keyboard "Michael Haufe (TNO)" <tno@thenewobjective.com> - 2016-03-11 18:37 -0800
Re: Wait on keyboard John Harris <niam@jghnorth.org.uk.invalid> - 2016-03-12 13:16 +0000
Re: Wait on keyboard jonas.thornvall@gmail.com - 2016-03-12 05:57 -0800
Re: Wait on keyboard John Harris <niam@jghnorth.org.uk.invalid> - 2016-03-13 10:31 +0000
Re: Wait on keyboard jonas.thornvall@gmail.com - 2016-03-13 05:55 -0700
Re: Wait on keyboard "Evertjan." <exxjxw.hannivoort@inter.nl.net> - 2016-03-13 17:19 +0100
Re: Wait on keyboard Scott Sauyet <scott.sauyet@gmail.com> - 2016-03-13 13:01 -0700
Re: Wait on keyboard jonas.thornvall@gmail.com - 2016-03-13 15:19 -0700
Re: Wait on keyboard Aleksandro <aleksandro@gmx.com> - 2016-03-13 20:08 -0300
Re: Wait on keyboard jonas.thornvall@gmail.com - 2016-03-13 21:45 -0700
Re: Wait on keyboard Aleksandro <aleksandro@gmx.com> - 2016-03-14 01:50 -0300
Re: Wait on keyboard jonas.thornvall@gmail.com - 2016-03-13 22:39 -0700
Re: Wait on keyboard jonas.thornvall@gmail.com - 2016-03-13 22:46 -0700
Re: Wait on keyboard Scott Sauyet <scott.sauyet@gmail.com> - 2016-03-14 11:54 -0700
Re: Wait on keyboard Tim Streater <timstreater@greenbee.net> - 2016-03-14 08:31 +0000
Re: Wait on keyboard John Harris <niam@jghnorth.org.uk.invalid> - 2016-03-14 10:43 +0000
Re: Wait on keyboard jonas.thornvall@gmail.com - 2016-03-12 06:04 -0800
Re: Wait on keyboard "Evertjan." <exxjxw.hannivoort@inter.nl.net> - 2016-03-12 15:22 +0100
Re: Wait on keyboard jonas.thornvall@gmail.com - 2016-03-12 07:46 -0800
Re: Wait on keyboard Tim Streater <timstreater@greenbee.net> - 2016-03-12 15:52 +0000
Re: Wait on keyboard jonas.thornvall@gmail.com - 2016-03-12 09:25 -0800
Re: Wait on keyboard Aleksandro <aleksandro@gmx.com> - 2016-03-12 20:16 -0300
Re: Wait on keyboard jonas.thornvall@gmail.com - 2016-03-12 15:57 -0800
Re: Wait on keyboard Aleksandro <aleksandro@gmx.com> - 2016-03-12 21:07 -0300
Re: Wait on keyboard Scott Sauyet <scott.sauyet@gmail.com> - 2016-03-12 21:27 -0800
Re: Wait on keyboard jonas.thornvall@gmail.com - 2016-03-13 03:08 -0700
Re: Wait on keyboard "Evertjan." <exxjxw.hannivoort@inter.nl.net> - 2016-03-12 23:30 +0100
Re: Wait on keyboard jonas.thornvall@gmail.com - 2016-03-12 06:15 -0800
Re: Wait on keyboard "Michael Haufe (TNO)" <tno@thenewobjective.com> - 2016-03-11 18:33 -0800
Re: Wait on keyboard jonas.thornvall@gmail.com - 2016-03-12 03:01 -0800
Re: Wait on keyboard "Michael Haufe (TNO)" <tno@thenewobjective.com> - 2016-03-11 18:30 -0800
Re: Wait on keyboard Thomas 'PointedEars' Lahn <PointedEars@web.de> - 2016-03-12 04:44 +0100
Re: Wait on keyboard Stefan Weiss <krewecherl@gmail.com> - 2016-03-12 11:21 +0100
Re: Wait on keyboard Stefan Weiss <krewecherl@gmail.com> - 2016-03-12 11:27 +0100
Re: Wait on keyboard Thomas 'PointedEars' Lahn <PointedEars@web.de> - 2016-03-12 14:44 +0100
Re: Wait on keyboard "Mr. Man-wai Chang" <toylet.toylet@gmail.com> - 2016-03-14 18:58 +0800
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| From | jonas.thornvall@gmail.com |
|---|---|
| Date | 2016-03-11 12:22 -0800 |
| Message-ID | <167d4204-d421-4852-ab16-b6659b83cfac@googlegroups.com> |
| In reply to | #29915 |
Den fredag 11 mars 2016 kl. 20:46:31 UTC+1 skrev jonas.t...@gmail.com:
> Den fredag 11 mars 2016 kl. 20:30:40 UTC+1 skrev Aleksandro:
> > On 11/03/16 13:55, jonas.thornvall@gmail.com wrote:
> > > Den fredag 11 mars 2016 kl. 17:11:34 UTC+1 skrev Stefan Weiss:
> > >> On 03/11/2016 17:00, Stefan Weiss wrote:
> > >>> sleepyFun.waitMouse = function (btn = 0) {
> > >>> listen("click", (evt) => evt.button === btn);
> > >>> };
> > >>
> > >> Whoops, default parameters aren't well supported yet... use this instead:
> > >>
> > >> sleepyFun.waitMouse = function (btn) {
> > >> listen("click", (evt) => evt.button === btn || 0);
> > >> };
> > >>
> > >> - stefan
> > >
> > > Sadly i think that Javascript is probably quite beautiful under the hood. Some where deep down there it is based upon sound principles, otherwise it would not have such rich functionality upon strings and arrays.
> > >
> > > But sadly how weak and convoluted it ends up, when you put idiots to program the user interface, the actual program language.
> >
> > If you knew what you were talking about, you would know the UI events
> > have little do do with the actual language; they are merely an
> > implementation for a particular stack.
>
> Well just as i told you, the idiots that implemented the eventhandler and listeners are not the same people that deigned the core language.
What actually happens is that some real bright people design a programming language programming languages by shape form and use mostly attract anal people who will celebrate its efficiensy, so after a couple of years "mostly one ot two" a comittee of idiots is appointed to develop the programming language, because lets face fact talented people do not have the attention spann to mull over simplistic matters for decades, they go on to solve nest problem after giving guidelines.
So instead a committe of idiots is annnotated to do the bright man/mens work and it a month or two the idiots changed the guidelines into their own petty lifemission of linguistic pedantries transforming the language into an anal profession of hogwash that refuse to perform a command withoug at least 30 lines of code.
Preferably the shit they produce should at least need a week or two to learn the API for howto take care of event handling, the first fucking week you spend try to catch the event and which button you actually pressed the second weekend should be spent finding out howto prepare the listener so when you press the damn key there is something actually there to catch the event.
I can recommend anyony to spend an extra week on finding out howto actually access the eventhandler. Because a simple keyPress will not do, no you should spend it to find out how the actual eventhandler will be accesed and howto awake the listener.
No these are anal people they can't fucking go for wait until (keypress=="32!) then do "what the fuck ever".
No these people want you to spend a week or two contemplaiting that you actually know what you want to do using a keypress becaus now it is ****their precikous programming language*****
Well you retarded, anal *MOTHERFUCKERS* are in for a wakeup call.
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| From | Aleksandro <aleksandro@gmx.com> |
|---|---|
| Date | 2016-03-11 17:25 -0300 |
| Message-ID | <nbv9eg$457$1@dont-email.me> |
| In reply to | #29916 |
On 11/03/16 17:22, jonas.thornvall@gmail.com wrote:
> Den fredag 11 mars 2016 kl. 20:46:31 UTC+1 skrev jonas.t...@gmail.com:
>> Den fredag 11 mars 2016 kl. 20:30:40 UTC+1 skrev Aleksandro:
>>> On 11/03/16 13:55, jonas.thornvall@gmail.com wrote:
>>>> Den fredag 11 mars 2016 kl. 17:11:34 UTC+1 skrev Stefan Weiss:
>>>>> On 03/11/2016 17:00, Stefan Weiss wrote:
>>>>>> sleepyFun.waitMouse = function (btn = 0) {
>>>>>> listen("click", (evt) => evt.button === btn);
>>>>>> };
>>>>>
>>>>> Whoops, default parameters aren't well supported yet... use this instead:
>>>>>
>>>>> sleepyFun.waitMouse = function (btn) {
>>>>> listen("click", (evt) => evt.button === btn || 0);
>>>>> };
>>>>>
>>>>> - stefan
>>>>
>>>> Sadly i think that Javascript is probably quite beautiful under the hood. Some where deep down there it is based upon sound principles, otherwise it would not have such rich functionality upon strings and arrays.
>>>>
>>>> But sadly how weak and convoluted it ends up, when you put idiots to program the user interface, the actual program language.
>>>
>>> If you knew what you were talking about, you would know the UI events
>>> have little do do with the actual language; they are merely an
>>> implementation for a particular stack.
>>
>> Well just as i told you, the idiots that implemented the eventhandler and listeners are not the same people that deigned the core language.
>
> What actually happens is that some real bright people design a programming language programming languages by shape form and use mostly attract anal people who will celebrate its efficiensy, so after a couple of years "mostly one ot two" a comittee of idiots is appointed to develop the programming language, because lets face fact talented people do not have the attention spann to mull over simplistic matters for decades, they go on to solve nest problem after giving guidelines.
>
> So instead a committe of idiots is annnotated to do the bright man/mens work and it a month or two the idiots changed the guidelines into their own petty lifemission of linguistic pedantries transforming the language into an anal profession of hogwash that refuse to perform a command withoug at least 30 lines of code.
>
> Preferably the shit they produce should at least need a week or two to learn the API for howto take care of event handling, the first fucking week you spend try to catch the event and which button you actually pressed the second weekend should be spent finding out howto prepare the listener so when you press the damn key there is something actually there to catch the event.
>
> I can recommend anyony to spend an extra week on finding out howto actually access the eventhandler. Because a simple keyPress will not do, no you should spend it to find out how the actual eventhandler will be accesed and howto awake the listener.
>
> No these are anal people they can't fucking go for wait until (keypress=="32!) then do "what the fuck ever".
>
> No these people want you to spend a week or two contemplaiting that you actually know what you want to do using a keypress becaus now it is ****their precikous programming language*****
>
> Well you retarded, anal *MOTHERFUCKERS* are in for a wakeup call.
Frustration speaking here.
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| From | jonas.thornvall@gmail.com |
|---|---|
| Date | 2016-03-11 12:32 -0800 |
| Message-ID | <378139f6-98d2-45d8-b029-d56deef03f47@googlegroups.com> |
| In reply to | #29917 |
Den fredag 11 mars 2016 kl. 21:25:52 UTC+1 skrev Aleksandro:
> On 11/03/16 17:22, jonas.thornvall@gmail.com wrote:
> > Den fredag 11 mars 2016 kl. 20:46:31 UTC+1 skrev jonas.t...@gmail.com:
> >> Den fredag 11 mars 2016 kl. 20:30:40 UTC+1 skrev Aleksandro:
> >>> On 11/03/16 13:55, jonas.thornvall@gmail.com wrote:
> >>>> Den fredag 11 mars 2016 kl. 17:11:34 UTC+1 skrev Stefan Weiss:
> >>>>> On 03/11/2016 17:00, Stefan Weiss wrote:
> >>>>>> sleepyFun.waitMouse = function (btn = 0) {
> >>>>>> listen("click", (evt) => evt.button === btn);
> >>>>>> };
> >>>>>
> >>>>> Whoops, default parameters aren't well supported yet... use this instead:
> >>>>>
> >>>>> sleepyFun.waitMouse = function (btn) {
> >>>>> listen("click", (evt) => evt.button === btn || 0);
> >>>>> };
> >>>>>
> >>>>> - stefan
> >>>>
> >>>> Sadly i think that Javascript is probably quite beautiful under the hood. Some where deep down there it is based upon sound principles, otherwise it would not have such rich functionality upon strings and arrays.
> >>>>
> >>>> But sadly how weak and convoluted it ends up, when you put idiots to program the user interface, the actual program language.
> >>>
> >>> If you knew what you were talking about, you would know the UI events
> >>> have little do do with the actual language; they are merely an
> >>> implementation for a particular stack.
> >>
> >> Well just as i told you, the idiots that implemented the eventhandler and listeners are not the same people that deigned the core language.
> >
> > What actually happens is that some real bright people design a programming language programming languages by shape form and use mostly attract anal people who will celebrate its efficiensy, so after a couple of years "mostly one ot two" a comittee of idiots is appointed to develop the programming language, because lets face fact talented people do not have the attention spann to mull over simplistic matters for decades, they go on to solve nest problem after giving guidelines.
> >
> > So instead a committe of idiots is annnotated to do the bright man/mens work and it a month or two the idiots changed the guidelines into their own petty lifemission of linguistic pedantries transforming the language into an anal profession of hogwash that refuse to perform a command withoug at least 30 lines of code.
> >
> > Preferably the shit they produce should at least need a week or two to learn the API for howto take care of event handling, the first fucking week you spend try to catch the event and which button you actually pressed the second weekend should be spent finding out howto prepare the listener so when you press the damn key there is something actually there to catch the event.
> >
> > I can recommend anyony to spend an extra week on finding out howto actually access the eventhandler. Because a simple keyPress will not do, no you should spend it to find out how the actual eventhandler will be accesed and howto awake the listener.
> >
> > No these are anal people they can't fucking go for wait until (keypress=="32!) then do "what the fuck ever".
> >
> > No these people want you to spend a week or two contemplaiting that you actually know what you want to do using a keypress becaus now it is ****their precikous programming language*****
> >
> > Well you retarded, anal *MOTHERFUCKERS* are in for a wakeup call.
>
> Frustration speaking here.
No actually it is the truth what requires 20 to 30 lines of javascript.
Could be achieved in a single line of *basic*
Go figure what kind of idiots responsible fot this.
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| From | Aleksandro <aleksandro@gmx.com> |
|---|---|
| Date | 2016-03-11 17:42 -0300 |
| Message-ID | <nbvaek$8lo$1@dont-email.me> |
| In reply to | #29918 |
On 11/03/16 17:32, jonas.thornvall@gmail.com wrote:
> Den fredag 11 mars 2016 kl. 21:25:52 UTC+1 skrev Aleksandro:
>> On 11/03/16 17:22, jonas.thornvall@gmail.com wrote:
>>> Den fredag 11 mars 2016 kl. 20:46:31 UTC+1 skrev jonas.t...@gmail.com:
>>>> Den fredag 11 mars 2016 kl. 20:30:40 UTC+1 skrev Aleksandro:
>>>>> On 11/03/16 13:55, jonas.thornvall@gmail.com wrote:
>>>>>> Den fredag 11 mars 2016 kl. 17:11:34 UTC+1 skrev Stefan Weiss:
>>>>>>> On 03/11/2016 17:00, Stefan Weiss wrote:
>>>>>>>> sleepyFun.waitMouse = function (btn = 0) {
>>>>>>>> listen("click", (evt) => evt.button === btn);
>>>>>>>> };
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Whoops, default parameters aren't well supported yet... use this instead:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> sleepyFun.waitMouse = function (btn) {
>>>>>>> listen("click", (evt) => evt.button === btn || 0);
>>>>>>> };
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> - stefan
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Sadly i think that Javascript is probably quite beautiful under the hood. Some where deep down there it is based upon sound principles, otherwise it would not have such rich functionality upon strings and arrays.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> But sadly how weak and convoluted it ends up, when you put idiots to program the user interface, the actual program language.
>>>>>
>>>>> If you knew what you were talking about, you would know the UI events
>>>>> have little do do with the actual language; they are merely an
>>>>> implementation for a particular stack.
>>>>
>>>> Well just as i told you, the idiots that implemented the eventhandler and listeners are not the same people that deigned the core language.
>>>
>>> What actually happens is that some real bright people design a programming language programming languages by shape form and use mostly attract anal people who will celebrate its efficiensy, so after a couple of years "mostly one ot two" a comittee of idiots is appointed to develop the programming language, because lets face fact talented people do not have the attention spann to mull over simplistic matters for decades, they go on to solve nest problem after giving guidelines.
>>>
>>> So instead a committe of idiots is annnotated to do the bright man/mens work and it a month or two the idiots changed the guidelines into their own petty lifemission of linguistic pedantries transforming the language into an anal profession of hogwash that refuse to perform a command withoug at least 30 lines of code.
>>>
>>> Preferably the shit they produce should at least need a week or two to learn the API for howto take care of event handling, the first fucking week you spend try to catch the event and which button you actually pressed the second weekend should be spent finding out howto prepare the listener so when you press the damn key there is something actually there to catch the event.
>>>
>>> I can recommend anyony to spend an extra week on finding out howto actually access the eventhandler. Because a simple keyPress will not do, no you should spend it to find out how the actual eventhandler will be accesed and howto awake the listener.
>>>
>>> No these are anal people they can't fucking go for wait until (keypress=="32!) then do "what the fuck ever".
>>>
>>> No these people want you to spend a week or two contemplaiting that you actually know what you want to do using a keypress becaus now it is ****their precikous programming language*****
>>>
>>> Well you retarded, anal *MOTHERFUCKERS* are in for a wakeup call.
>>
>> Frustration speaking here.
>
> No actually it is the truth what requires 20 to 30 lines of javascript.
> Could be achieved in a single line of *basic*
>
> Go figure what kind of idiots responsible fot this.
And what requires 50 lines of code in your any other language of choice
can be done in a single one of Javascript.
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| From | jonas.thornvall@gmail.com |
|---|---|
| Date | 2016-03-11 12:52 -0800 |
| Message-ID | <8abb9ce1-27aa-42f8-bd00-6781dd959c40@googlegroups.com> |
| In reply to | #29919 |
Den fredag 11 mars 2016 kl. 21:43:01 UTC+1 skrev Aleksandro:
> On 11/03/16 17:32, jonas.thornvall@gmail.com wrote:
> > Den fredag 11 mars 2016 kl. 21:25:52 UTC+1 skrev Aleksandro:
> >> On 11/03/16 17:22, jonas.thornvall@gmail.com wrote:
> >>> Den fredag 11 mars 2016 kl. 20:46:31 UTC+1 skrev jonas.t...@gmail.com:
> >>>> Den fredag 11 mars 2016 kl. 20:30:40 UTC+1 skrev Aleksandro:
> >>>>> On 11/03/16 13:55, jonas.thornvall@gmail.com wrote:
> >>>>>> Den fredag 11 mars 2016 kl. 17:11:34 UTC+1 skrev Stefan Weiss:
> >>>>>>> On 03/11/2016 17:00, Stefan Weiss wrote:
> >>>>>>>> sleepyFun.waitMouse = function (btn = 0) {
> >>>>>>>> listen("click", (evt) => evt.button === btn);
> >>>>>>>> };
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> Whoops, default parameters aren't well supported yet... use this instead:
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> sleepyFun.waitMouse = function (btn) {
> >>>>>>> listen("click", (evt) => evt.button === btn || 0);
> >>>>>>> };
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> - stefan
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> Sadly i think that Javascript is probably quite beautiful under the hood. Some where deep down there it is based upon sound principles, otherwise it would not have such rich functionality upon strings and arrays.
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> But sadly how weak and convoluted it ends up, when you put idiots to program the user interface, the actual program language.
> >>>>>
> >>>>> If you knew what you were talking about, you would know the UI events
> >>>>> have little do do with the actual language; they are merely an
> >>>>> implementation for a particular stack.
> >>>>
> >>>> Well just as i told you, the idiots that implemented the eventhandler and listeners are not the same people that deigned the core language.
> >>>
> >>> What actually happens is that some real bright people design a programming language programming languages by shape form and use mostly attract anal people who will celebrate its efficiensy, so after a couple of years "mostly one ot two" a comittee of idiots is appointed to develop the programming language, because lets face fact talented people do not have the attention spann to mull over simplistic matters for decades, they go on to solve nest problem after giving guidelines.
> >>>
> >>> So instead a committe of idiots is annnotated to do the bright man/mens work and it a month or two the idiots changed the guidelines into their own petty lifemission of linguistic pedantries transforming the language into an anal profession of hogwash that refuse to perform a command withoug at least 30 lines of code.
> >>>
> >>> Preferably the shit they produce should at least need a week or two to learn the API for howto take care of event handling, the first fucking week you spend try to catch the event and which button you actually pressed the second weekend should be spent finding out howto prepare the listener so when you press the damn key there is something actually there to catch the event.
> >>>
> >>> I can recommend anyony to spend an extra week on finding out howto actually access the eventhandler. Because a simple keyPress will not do, no you should spend it to find out how the actual eventhandler will be accesed and howto awake the listener.
> >>>
> >>> No these are anal people they can't fucking go for wait until (keypress=="32!) then do "what the fuck ever".
> >>>
> >>> No these people want you to spend a week or two contemplaiting that you actually know what you want to do using a keypress becaus now it is ****their precikous programming language*****
> >>>
> >>> Well you retarded, anal *MOTHERFUCKERS* are in for a wakeup call.
> >>
> >> Frustration speaking here.
> >
> > No actually it is the truth what requires 20 to 30 lines of javascript.
> > Could be achieved in a single line of *basic*
> >
> > Go figure what kind of idiots responsible fot this.
>
> And what requires 50 lines of code in your any other language of choice
> can be done in a single one of Javascript.
Well that is still my point Aleksandro, the idiots that developed the array string handling are bright people, the idiots they put on listeners and eventhandling should be passed to a dark corner where they can thrive in linguistec waste garbage.
Concat, pop, push, toString, toInt, subStr are all great ideas, maybe not perfectly interfaced but at least they do not fucking need an API to be used.
The idiots that developed the interface for eventhandlers are basicly idiots.
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| From | jonas.thornvall@gmail.com |
|---|---|
| Date | 2016-03-11 12:47 -0800 |
| Message-ID | <1c18d970-7be6-4ae0-ac0a-d49d5428c701@googlegroups.com> |
| In reply to | #29918 |
Den fredag 11 mars 2016 kl. 21:32:49 UTC+1 skrev jonas.t...@gmail.com:
> Den fredag 11 mars 2016 kl. 21:25:52 UTC+1 skrev Aleksandro:
> > On 11/03/16 17:22, jonas.thornvall@gmail.com wrote:
> > > Den fredag 11 mars 2016 kl. 20:46:31 UTC+1 skrev jonas.t...@gmail.com:
> > >> Den fredag 11 mars 2016 kl. 20:30:40 UTC+1 skrev Aleksandro:
> > >>> On 11/03/16 13:55, jonas.thornvall@gmail.com wrote:
> > >>>> Den fredag 11 mars 2016 kl. 17:11:34 UTC+1 skrev Stefan Weiss:
> > >>>>> On 03/11/2016 17:00, Stefan Weiss wrote:
> > >>>>>> sleepyFun.waitMouse = function (btn = 0) {
> > >>>>>> listen("click", (evt) => evt.button === btn);
> > >>>>>> };
> > >>>>>
> > >>>>> Whoops, default parameters aren't well supported yet... use this instead:
> > >>>>>
> > >>>>> sleepyFun.waitMouse = function (btn) {
> > >>>>> listen("click", (evt) => evt.button === btn || 0);
> > >>>>> };
> > >>>>>
> > >>>>> - stefan
> > >>>>
> > >>>> Sadly i think that Javascript is probably quite beautiful under the hood. Some where deep down there it is based upon sound principles, otherwise it would not have such rich functionality upon strings and arrays.
> > >>>>
> > >>>> But sadly how weak and convoluted it ends up, when you put idiots to program the user interface, the actual program language.
> > >>>
> > >>> If you knew what you were talking about, you would know the UI events
> > >>> have little do do with the actual language; they are merely an
> > >>> implementation for a particular stack.
> > >>
> > >> Well just as i told you, the idiots that implemented the eventhandler and listeners are not the same people that deigned the core language.
> > >
> > > What actually happens is that some real bright people design a programming language programming languages by shape form and use mostly attract anal people who will celebrate its efficiensy, so after a couple of years "mostly one ot two" a comittee of idiots is appointed to develop the programming language, because lets face fact talented people do not have the attention spann to mull over simplistic matters for decades, they go on to solve nest problem after giving guidelines.
> > >
> > > So instead a committe of idiots is annnotated to do the bright man/mens work and it a month or two the idiots changed the guidelines into their own petty lifemission of linguistic pedantries transforming the language into an anal profession of hogwash that refuse to perform a command withoug at least 30 lines of code.
> > >
> > > Preferably the shit they produce should at least need a week or two to learn the API for howto take care of event handling, the first fucking week you spend try to catch the event and which button you actually pressed the second weekend should be spent finding out howto prepare the listener so when you press the damn key there is something actually there to catch the event.
> > >
> > > I can recommend anyony to spend an extra week on finding out howto actually access the eventhandler. Because a simple keyPress will not do, no you should spend it to find out how the actual eventhandler will be accesed and howto awake the listener.
> > >
> > > No these are anal people they can't fucking go for wait until (keypress=="32!) then do "what the fuck ever".
> > >
> > > No these people want you to spend a week or two contemplaiting that you actually know what you want to do using a keypress becaus now it is ****their precikous programming language*****
> > >
> > > Well you retarded, anal *MOTHERFUCKERS* are in for a wakeup call.
> >
> > Frustration speaking here.
>
> No actually it is the truth what requires 20 to 30 lines of javascript.
> Could be achieved in a single line of *basic*
>
> Go figure what kind of idiots responsible fot this.
Well it is a protest actually i will refuse to use the evenhandlers and listeners more than to a minimum extent. Until the monkeys who programmed it addressed both their own and their codes anal approach inadequasy and inefficiency.
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| From | "Michael Haufe (TNO)" <tno@thenewobjective.com> |
|---|---|
| Date | 2016-03-11 18:39 -0800 |
| Message-ID | <d56c77b9-b43a-49ad-8f7a-4101201a8973@googlegroups.com> |
| In reply to | #29918 |
On Friday, March 11, 2016 at 2:32:49 PM UTC-6, jonas.t...@gmail.com wrote: > No actually it is the truth what requires 20 to 30 lines of javascript. > Could be achieved in a single line of *basic* or it just takes *you* 20-30 lines to accomplish it.
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| From | "Michael Haufe (TNO)" <tno@thenewobjective.com> |
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| Date | 2016-03-11 18:37 -0800 |
| Message-ID | <520d1d86-2471-469d-bf63-7563516c8664@googlegroups.com> |
| In reply to | #29916 |
On Friday, March 11, 2016 at 2:22:38 PM UTC-6, jonas.t...@gmail.com wrote: > What actually happens is that some real bright people design a programming language programming languages by shape form and use mostly attract anal people who will celebrate its efficiensy, so after a couple of years "mostly one ot two" a comittee of idiots is appointed to develop the programming language, because lets face fact talented people do not have the attention spann to mull over simplistic matters for decades, they go on to solve nest problem after giving guidelines. Once again, would you care to cite a single point of evidence which supports this? > So instead a committe of idiots is annnotated to do the bright man/mens work and it a month or two the idiots changed the guidelines into their own petty lifemission of linguistic pedantries transforming the language into an anal profession of hogwash that refuse to perform a command withoug at least 30 lines of code. > > Preferably the shit they produce should at least need a week or two to learn the API for howto take care of event handling, the first fucking week you spend try to catch the event and which button you actually pressed the second weekend should be spent finding out howto prepare the listener so when you press the damn key there is something actually there to catch the event. > > I can recommend anyony to spend an extra week on finding out howto actually access the eventhandler. Because a simple keyPress will not do, no you should spend it to find out how the actual eventhandler will be accesed and howto awake the listener. > > No these are anal people they can't fucking go for wait until (keypress=="32!) then do "what the fuck ever". > > No these people want you to spend a week or two contemplaiting that you actually know what you want to do using a keypress becaus now it is ****their precikous programming language***** > > Well you retarded, anal *MOTHERFUCKERS* are in for a wakeup call. Perhaps you should stop drinking, or at least stay away from a computer when you do.
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| From | John Harris <niam@jghnorth.org.uk.invalid> |
|---|---|
| Date | 2016-03-12 13:16 +0000 |
| Message-ID | <re58ebtpclu82quc4thn4uglg7jp4ps48o@4ax.com> |
| In reply to | #29916 |
On Fri, 11 Mar 2016 12:22:29 -0800 (PST), jonas.thornvall@gmail.com wrote: <snip> >No these are anal people they can't fucking go for wait until (keypress=="32!) then do "what the fuck ever". <snip> You write wait until (keypress==32); in your program and it's legal because ECMAScript has been enhanced the way you wanted. But your program is running in the web server and there is *no* User Interface! What should the compiler do when it sees this? Obviously, it should send an e-mail to the ECMA committee saying that they are bloody idiots for putting such a stupid thing in the language. >Well you retarded, anal *MOTHERFUCKERS* are in for a wakeup call. It looks as though the wakeup call has already hit a programmer who splashes code down without thinking and then discovers the all too predictable consequences. John
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| From | jonas.thornvall@gmail.com |
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| Date | 2016-03-12 05:57 -0800 |
| Message-ID | <19832681-7906-4fee-90ca-a01c88b9fa6e@googlegroups.com> |
| In reply to | #29932 |
Den lördag 12 mars 2016 kl. 14:16:30 UTC+1 skrev John Harris: > On Fri, 11 Mar 2016 12:22:29 -0800 (PST), jonas.thornvall@gmail.com > wrote: > > <snip> > >No these are anal people they can't fucking go for wait until (keypress=="32!) then do "what the fuck ever". > <snip> > > You write > wait until (keypress==32); > in your program and it's legal because ECMAScript has been enhanced > the way you wanted. But your program is running in the web server and > there is *no* User Interface! Your just silly there is no user interface to catch an alert on server either. So you say that javascript somehow immune to do weird things on server? Well if so that would need some sort of exception for UI code in general executed on server and then you could as well incorporate wait and keypress. If it is the fact you do not like wait without a time that is easily fixed. > What should the compiler do when it sees this? Obviously, it should > send an e-mail to the ECMA committee saying that they are bloody > idiots for putting such a stupid thing in the language. Well what about an alert running at server. What about any UI event on server. > > >Well you retarded, anal *MOTHERFUCKERS* are in for a wakeup call. > > It looks as though the wakeup call has already hit a programmer who > splashes code down without thinking and then discovers the all too > predictable consequences. > > John
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| From | John Harris <niam@jghnorth.org.uk.invalid> |
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| Date | 2016-03-13 10:31 +0000 |
| Message-ID | <bbgaeblqc1s0d6inalb50oduink406pdf9@4ax.com> |
| In reply to | #29935 |
On Sat, 12 Mar 2016 05:57:40 -0800 (PST), jonas.thornvall@gmail.com wrote: <snip> >Well what about an alert running at server. <snip> If you search ECMA 262 you will find that the word "alert" does not appear anywhere in the ECMAScript standard. Therefore, alert is not part of the ECMAScript core language. It is a function supplied to programs by the browser in the same way that objects giving you access to the document are supplied by the browser. In a server either there is no function named alert or it is a function that does something different. John
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| From | jonas.thornvall@gmail.com |
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| Date | 2016-03-13 05:55 -0700 |
| Message-ID | <040dba52-3121-4d6e-850e-ef5aa64147e2@googlegroups.com> |
| In reply to | #29954 |
Den söndag 13 mars 2016 kl. 11:31:29 UTC+1 skrev John Harris: > On Sat, 12 Mar 2016 05:57:40 -0800 (PST), jonas.thornvall@gmail.com > wrote: > > <snip> > >Well what about an alert running at server. > <snip> > > If you search ECMA 262 you will find that the word "alert" does not > appear anywhere in the ECMAScript standard. > > Therefore, alert is not part of the ECMAScript core language. It is a > function supplied to programs by the browser in the same way that > objects giving you access to the document are supplied by the browser. > > In a server either there is no function named alert or it is a > function that does something different. > > John Well i guess there is no eventhandlers either running on the server. And that is my point the listeners and evenhandler UI should have both *wait* and *keypress*
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| From | "Evertjan." <exxjxw.hannivoort@inter.nl.net> |
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| Date | 2016-03-13 17:19 +0100 |
| Message-ID | <XnsA5CAB049FA4Eeejj99@194.109.6.166> |
| In reply to | #29960 |
jonas.thornvall@gmail.com wrote on 13 Mar 2016 in comp.lang.javascript: > Well i guess there is no eventhandlers either running on the server. And > that is my point the listeners and evenhandler UI should have both > *wait* and *keypress* Nonsense. You guess wrong. Eventhandlers are not "running" they are called by the browser when an event takes place someway like this: The browser looks after each event if there is an handler registered, and then the registered piece of Javascript is called to run. *wait* and *keypress* presuppose a running Javascript, which would be a waist of resources, as such event may never come ore take a long time to come. Javascript in a browser [and mostly elswhere too, I suppose] ends when finished and takes up no resourses after that time. -- Evertjan. The Netherlands. (Please change the x'es to dots in my emailaddress)
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| From | Scott Sauyet <scott.sauyet@gmail.com> |
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| Date | 2016-03-13 13:01 -0700 |
| Message-ID | <332117cd-e7df-4f7f-b03b-0022d6229e02@googlegroups.com> |
| In reply to | #29960 |
jonas.thornvall@gmail.com wrote: > John Harris wrote: >> If you search ECMA 262 you will find that the word "alert" does not >> appear anywhere in the ECMAScript standard. >> >> Therefore, alert is not part of the ECMAScript core language. It is a >> function supplied to programs by the browser in the same way that >> objects giving you access to the document are supplied by the browser. >> >> In a server either there is no function named alert or it is a >> function that does something different. > > Well i guess there is no eventhandlers either running on the server. > And that is my point the listeners and evenhandler UI should have > both *wait* and *keypress* Why? For heaven's sake, why should it have your "keypress" and not my "mousemove", her "resize", his "touch", their "click", or everyone's "change" actions? Or are you suggesting that it should have all of them as top-level events, and then every time someone needs a new event we have to expand this API? And what are your semantics for "wait" in a single-threaded language? What does it mean? How does it affect the rest of the host environment (browser, server, other) where the Javascript runs? Are you talking about something like continuations, or do you really expect to pause the entire execution of the engine while you wait for your prince^B^B^B^B^B event to come? Or are you simply whining, "This is not working like some other language I used to know, and I don't want to bother learning anything about this one? Why can't someone fix this so I don't have to bother using my brain? Come on guys, help me out? Please?" Because that's certainly what it sounds like. -- Scott
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| From | jonas.thornvall@gmail.com |
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| Date | 2016-03-13 15:19 -0700 |
| Message-ID | <176191a9-82a7-48b1-affb-e9053c66f4d2@googlegroups.com> |
| In reply to | #29967 |
Den söndag 13 mars 2016 kl. 21:01:18 UTC+1 skrev Scott Sauyet: > jonas.thornvall@gmail.com wrote: > > John Harris wrote: > > >> If you search ECMA 262 you will find that the word "alert" does not > >> appear anywhere in the ECMAScript standard. > >> > >> Therefore, alert is not part of the ECMAScript core language. It is a > >> function supplied to programs by the browser in the same way that > >> objects giving you access to the document are supplied by the browser. > >> > >> In a server either there is no function named alert or it is a > >> function that does something different. > > > > Well i guess there is no eventhandlers either running on the server. > > And that is my point the listeners and evenhandler UI should have > > both *wait* and *keypress* > > Why? For heaven's sake, why should it have your "keypress" and not my > "mousemove", her "resize", his "touch", their "click", or everyone's > "change" actions? Or are you suggesting that it should have all of > them as top-level events, and then every time someone needs a new > event we have to expand this API? > > And what are your semantics for "wait" in a single-threaded language? > What does it mean? How does it affect the rest of the host environment > (browser, server, other) where the Javascript runs? Are you talking > about something like continuations, or do you really expect to pause > the entire execution of the engine while you wait for your > prince^B^B^B^B^B event to come? > > Or are you simply whining, "This is not working like some other > language I used to know, and I don't want to bother learning anything > about this one? Why can't someone fix this so I don't have to bother > using my brain? Come on guys, help me out? Please?" > > Because that's certainly what it sounds like. > > -- Scott Honestly i don't anything as long it does not invoke 30 lines of code to wait for user input. And it is a keyboard i do not see why it is tied to fields and documents only. I wano to call functions on presskey.
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| From | Aleksandro <aleksandro@gmx.com> |
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| Date | 2016-03-13 20:08 -0300 |
| Message-ID | <nc4rnk$3kt$1@dont-email.me> |
| In reply to | #29968 |
On 13/03/16 19:19, jonas.thornvall@gmail.com wrote: > I wano to call functions on presskey. And your problem is...?
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| From | jonas.thornvall@gmail.com |
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| Date | 2016-03-13 21:45 -0700 |
| Message-ID | <c0352a15-5432-436a-8b29-823c9518050a@googlegroups.com> |
| In reply to | #29969 |
Den måndag 14 mars 2016 kl. 00:08:38 UTC+1 skrev Aleksandro:
> On 13/03/16 19:19, jonas.thornvall@gmail.com wrote:
> > I wano to call functions on presskey.
>
> And your problem is...?
That the examples i find want to me to be in a textfield or use another "id" element to reach the keylisteener. There is no global keylistener?
Or?
<input type="text" onKeyPress="alert(this.value)">
<input type="text" onKeyPress="handleInput(this.value)">
function handleInput(value){
alert(value);
}
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| From | Aleksandro <aleksandro@gmx.com> |
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| Date | 2016-03-14 01:50 -0300 |
| Message-ID | <nc5fnv$mb4$1@dont-email.me> |
| In reply to | #29972 |
On 14/03/16 01:45, jonas.thornvall@gmail.com wrote:
> Den måndag 14 mars 2016 kl. 00:08:38 UTC+1 skrev Aleksandro:
>> On 13/03/16 19:19, jonas.thornvall@gmail.com wrote:
>>> I wano to call functions on presskey.
>>
>> And your problem is...?
> That the examples i find want to me to be in a textfield or use another "id" element to reach the keylisteener. There is no global keylistener?
That's why I told you to look up what event bubbling is!!!
> Or?
>
> <input type="text" onKeyPress="alert(this.value)">
> <input type="text" onKeyPress="handleInput(this.value)">
>
> function handleInput(value){
> alert(value);
> }
That's horrible. lol
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| From | jonas.thornvall@gmail.com |
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| Date | 2016-03-13 22:39 -0700 |
| Message-ID | <95865a2a-5433-446a-a4b3-c6f4c48d1afd@googlegroups.com> |
| In reply to | #29973 |
Den måndag 14 mars 2016 kl. 05:50:09 UTC+1 skrev Aleksandro:
> On 14/03/16 01:45, jonas.thornvall@gmail.com wrote:
> > Den måndag 14 mars 2016 kl. 00:08:38 UTC+1 skrev Aleksandro:
> >> On 13/03/16 19:19, jonas.thornvall@gmail.com wrote:
> >>> I wano to call functions on presskey.
> >>
> >> And your problem is...?
> > That the examples i find want to me to be in a textfield or use another "id" element to reach the keylisteener. There is no global keylistener?
>
> That's why I told you to look up what event bubbling is!!!
Well i do acknowledge that you people "you know who you are" celebrate your convoluted workarounds dealing with simple matters, what i can see at glance is at bubbling probably is a way to create a scope for the eventlisteners.
But my question remain, why isn't there a general keyboard listener? I mean maybe i do not have any elements to listen upon. I want to listen to the keyboard.
> > Or?
> >
> > <input type="text" onKeyPress="alert(this.value)">
> > <input type="text" onKeyPress="handleInput(this.value)">
> >
> > function handleInput(value){
> > alert(value);
> > }
>
> That's horrible. lol
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| From | jonas.thornvall@gmail.com |
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| Date | 2016-03-13 22:46 -0700 |
| Message-ID | <fae6cdd2-c1db-4987-8f9b-f05376bc766b@googlegroups.com> |
| In reply to | #29974 |
Den måndag 14 mars 2016 kl. 06:39:38 UTC+1 skrev jonas.t...@gmail.com:
> Den måndag 14 mars 2016 kl. 05:50:09 UTC+1 skrev Aleksandro:
> > On 14/03/16 01:45, jonas.thornvall@gmail.com wrote:
> > > Den måndag 14 mars 2016 kl. 00:08:38 UTC+1 skrev Aleksandro:
> > >> On 13/03/16 19:19, jonas.thornvall@gmail.com wrote:
> > >>> I wano to call functions on presskey.
> > >>
> > >> And your problem is...?
> > > That the examples i find want to me to be in a textfield or use another "id" element to reach the keylisteener. There is no global keylistener?
> >
> > That's why I told you to look up what event bubbling is!!!
> Well i do acknowledge that you people "you know who you are" celebrate your convoluted workarounds dealing with simple matters, what i can see at glance is at bubbling probably is a way to create a scope for the eventlisteners.
>
> But my question remain, why isn't there a general keyboard listener? I mean maybe i do not have any elements to listen upon. I want to listen to the keyboard.
>
> > > Or?
> > >
> > > <input type="text" onKeyPress="alert(this.value)">
> > > <input type="text" onKeyPress="handleInput(this.value)">
> > >
> > > function handleInput(value){
> > > alert(value);
> > > }
> >
> > That's horrible. lol
I think Scott arguments regarding wait in javascript, was that people would use wait maliciously on webpages, but why bother you can create a loop that make it hang anyday?
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