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  A way of displaying an active Script Dr J R Stockton <reply1214@merlyn.demon.co.uk.not.invalid> - 2012-04-02 23:40 +0100
    Re: A way of displaying an active Script Dr.Kral@nyc.rr.com - 2012-04-03 14:58 -0400
      Re: A way of displaying an active Script Thomas 'PointedEars' Lahn <PointedEars@web.de> - 2012-04-03 21:17 +0200
        Re: A way of displaying an active Script John G Harris <john@nospam.demon.co.uk> - 2012-04-04 15:50 +0100
          Re: A way of displaying an active Script Dr J R Stockton <reply1214@merlyn.demon.co.uk.not.invalid> - 2012-04-05 20:05 +0100
            Re: A way of displaying an active Script Eric Bednarz <bednarz@fahr-zur-hoelle.org> - 2012-04-06 10:39 +0200
              Re: A way of displaying an active Script "Evertjan." <exjxw.hannivoort@interxnl.net> - 2012-04-06 15:03 +0000
                Re: A way of displaying an active Script Eric Bednarz <bednarz@fahr-zur-hoelle.org> - 2012-04-06 21:20 +0200
                  Re: A way of displaying an active Script "Evertjan." <exjxw.hannivoort@interxnl.net> - 2012-04-06 19:45 +0000
                    [OT] Re: A way of displaying an active Script Eric Bednarz <bednarz@fahr-zur-hoelle.org> - 2012-04-06 22:39 +0200
                      Re: [OT] Re: A way of displaying an active Script "Evertjan." <exjxw.hannivoort@interxnl.net> - 2012-04-06 22:18 +0000
                        Re: [OT] Re: A way of displaying an active Script Eric Bednarz <bednarz@fahr-zur-hoelle.org> - 2012-04-07 00:40 +0200
                        Re: [OT] Re: A way of displaying an active Script Eric Bednarz <bednarz@fahr-zur-hoelle.org> - 2012-04-07 02:33 +0200
                        Re: [OT] Re: A way of displaying an active Script Dr J R Stockton <reply1214@merlyn.demon.co.uk.not.invalid> - 2012-04-07 19:25 +0100
                          Re: [OT] Re: A way of displaying an active Script "Evertjan." <exjxw.hannivoort@interxnl.net> - 2012-04-08 07:38 +0000
                    Re: A way of displaying an active Script Dr J R Stockton <reply1214@merlyn.demon.co.uk.not.invalid> - 2012-04-07 19:20 +0100
                      Re: A way of displaying an active Script "Evertjan." <exjxw.hannivoort@interxnl.net> - 2012-04-08 07:52 +0000
    Re: A way of displaying an active Script Gene Wirchenko <genew@ocis.net> - 2012-04-03 12:44 -0700
      Re: A way of displaying an active Script Dr J R Stockton <reply1214@merlyn.demon.co.uk.not.invalid> - 2012-04-04 20:30 +0100
        Re: A way of displaying an active Script Eric Bednarz <bednarz@fahr-zur-hoelle.org> - 2012-04-05 01:16 +0200
          Re: A way of displaying an active Script Dr J R Stockton <reply1214@merlyn.demon.co.uk.not.invalid> - 2012-04-06 21:42 +0100
            Re: A way of displaying an active Script Eric Bednarz <bednarz@fahr-zur-hoelle.org> - 2012-04-07 01:11 +0200
              Re: A way of displaying an active Script Thomas 'PointedEars' Lahn <PointedEars@web.de> - 2012-04-07 01:52 +0200
              Re: A way of displaying an active Script Dr J R Stockton <reply1214@merlyn.demon.co.uk.not.invalid> - 2012-04-08 19:48 +0100
                Re: A way of displaying an active Script "Jukka K. Korpela" <jkorpela@cs.tut.fi> - 2012-04-09 08:17 +0300
                  Re: A way of displaying an active Script Eric Bednarz <bednarz@fahr-zur-hoelle.org> - 2012-04-09 09:06 +0000
            Re: A way of displaying an active Script John G Harris <john@nospam.demon.co.uk> - 2012-04-07 11:21 +0100
              Re: A way of displaying an active Script Tim Streater <timstreater@greenbee.net> - 2012-04-07 12:26 +0100
                Re: A way of displaying an active Script John G Harris <john@nospam.demon.co.uk> - 2012-04-07 15:16 +0100

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#13180 — A way of displaying an active Script

I thought I'd try this, without much hope. It works in Firefox Opera
Safari & Chrome; in IE8, the script is executed but not shown.  IE 9/10 ?

  <!doctype HTML>
  <title>test</title>
  <body>
  aaa
  <script type="text/javascript"
   style="display:block; white-space:pre; font-family:monospace;">
  A = 5 + 7
      document.writeln(A)
  </script>
  zzz
  </body>

Result shown :

        aaa

        A = 5 + 7
            document.writeln(A)
        12 zzz

In Firefox, copy'n'paste of that does not copy the script part.
In Opera, Safari, Chrome, it does.

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#13198

On Mon, 2 Apr 2012 23:40:34 +0100, Dr J R Stockton
<reply1214@merlyn.demon.co.uk.not.invalid> wrote in
<KFY94oUiriePFw3k@invalid.uk.co.demon.merlyn.invalid>:

>I thought I'd try this, without much hope. It works in Firefox Opera
>Safari & Chrome; in IE8, the script is executed but not shown.  IE 9/10 ?
Works in IE 9

This even works in IE5.5!


<!doctype HTML>
<head>
<title>test</title>
</head>
<body>
aaa
<script type="text/javascript" id="scbk">
A = 5 + 7+ "this is a script"
document.writeln(navigator.userAgent+"<br>"+document.getElementById("scbk").innerHTML+"<br>"+A);
</script>"
zzz
</body>

HTH

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#13199

Dr.Kral@nyc.rr.com wrote:

> Dr J R Stockton [wrote]:
>> I thought I'd try this, without much hope. It works in Firefox Opera
>> Safari & Chrome; in IE8, the script is executed but not shown.  IE 9/10 ?
>  Works in IE 9
> 
> This even works in IE5.5!
> 
> 
> <!doctype HTML>
> <head>
> <title>test</title>
> </head>
> <body>
> aaa
> <script type="text/javascript" id="scbk">
> A = 5 + 7+ "this is a script"
> 
document.writeln(navigator.userAgent+"<br>"+document.getElementById("scbk").innerHTML+"<br>"+A);
> </script>"
> zzz
> </body>

0.   Declare `A'.
0.1. Append a semicolon to the script's first line (yes, it is an example;
     a bad one).
1.   Drop document.writeln() in favor of document.write() or methods 
     introduced with W3C DOM Level 2 (which IE/MSHTML supports from version
     5.0 on).
2.   If you use document.write(), escape at least the `<' in the generated
     script code.  If you use the new methods, nothing needs to/must be
     escaped, though.
3.   Remove the extra `"'.

Please do not post attribution novels, and get a real name.


PointedEars
-- 
> If you get a bunch of authors […] that state the same "best practices"
> in any programming language, then you can bet who is wrong or right...
Not with javascript. Nonsense propagates like wildfire in this field.
  -- Richard Cornford, comp.lang.javascript, 2011-11-14

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#13212

On Tue, 3 Apr 2012 at 21:17:41, in comp.lang.javascript, Thomas
'PointedEars' Lahn wrote:
>Dr.Kral@nyc.rr.com wrote:

  <snip>
>Please do not post attribution novels, and get a real name.

Why ?

  John
-- 
John Harris

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#13250

In comp.lang.javascript message <bSMkiAH$+FfPFws8@J.A830F0FF37FB96852AD0
8924D9443D28E23ED5CD>, Wed, 4 Apr 2012 15:50:39, John G Harris
<john@nospam.demon.co.uk> posted:

>On Tue, 3 Apr 2012 at 21:17:41, in comp.lang.javascript, Thomas
>'PointedEars' Lahn wrote:
>>Dr.Kral@nyc.rr.com wrote:
>
>  <snip>
>>Please do not post attribution novels, and get a real name.
>
>Why ?

Because it annoys those with personality defects.  IIRC, news:de.* has
such a rule; and there is a national tendency towards wanting to Rule
them All - Hermann, Lahn, Merkel, ... .  But in the RotW, the best
advice is that of Charles Lindsey et al (he is more intelligent than
Lahn) - just Google for   "Charles Lindsey" attribution   .

-- 
 (c) John Stockton, nr London UK. replyYYWW merlyn demon co uk Turnpike 6.05.
   Web <http://www.uwasa.fi/~ts/http/tsfaq.html> -> Timo Salmi: Usenet Q&A.
   Web <http://www.merlyn.demon.co.uk/news-use.htm> :  about usage of News.
 No Encoding. Quotes precede replies. Snip well. Write clearly. Mail no News.

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#13257

Dr Tarr and Professor Fether <reply1214@merlyn.demon.co.uk.not.invalid> write:

> Because it annoys those with personality defects.

Those with personality defects use any opportunity to decorate
themselves with academic credentials.

> IIRC, news:de.* has
> such a rule; and there is a national tendency towards wanting to Rule
> them All - Hermann, Lahn, Merkel,

In future, kindly confine your xenophobic exrements to the small, dark
rotten place in your head where they breed. Thank you.

-- 
λ

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#13259

Eric Bednarz wrote on 06 apr 2012 in comp.lang.javascript:

> Dr Tarr and Professor Fether
> <reply1214@merlyn.demon.co.uk.not.invalid> write: 
> 
>> Because it annoys those with personality defects.
> 
> Those with personality defects use any opportunity to decorate
> themselves with academic credentials.
> 
>> IIRC, news:de.* has
>> such a rule; and there is a national tendency towards wanting to Rule
>> them All - Hermann, Lahn, Merkel,
> 
> In future, kindly confine your xenophobic exrements to the small, dark
> rotten place in your head where they breed. Thank you.

Eric, I hope you did not learn such foul words in the Enschede 
Conservatorium.

-- 
Evertjan.
The Netherlands.
(Please change the x'es to dots in my emailaddress)

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#13261

"Evertjan." <exjxw.hannivoort@interxnl.net> writes:

> Eric Bednarz wrote on 06 apr 2012 in comp.lang.javascript:
>
>> Dr Tarr and Professor Fether
>> <reply1214@merlyn.demon.co.uk.not.invalid> write: 
>> 
>>> Because it annoys those with personality defects.
>> 
>> Those with personality defects use any opportunity to decorate
>> themselves with academic credentials.
>> 
>>> IIRC, news:de.* has
>>> such a rule; and there is a national tendency towards wanting to Rule
>>> them All - Hermann, Lahn, Merkel,
>> 
>> In future, kindly confine your xenophobic exrements

Crikey, I appear to have misspelled 'experiments'. But then, I'm just a
badly educated Mof.

>> to the small, dark
>> rotten place in your head where they breed. Thank you.
>
> Eric, I hope you did not learn such foul words in the Enschede 
> Conservatorium.

What foul words, 'breed'? I wasn't aware that the Bible Belt had
annexed Twente. :-)

In recent years, I *do* seem to have picked up a hypersensitivity to
xenophobic bullshit, mainly due to living in the bigger Netherlands
area, though. Mea culpa (oh come on, you educated folks can't really
think bad of them people who know their Latin, can you?).

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#13262

Eric Bednarz wrote on 06 apr 2012 in comp.lang.javascript:

> "Evertjan." <exjxw.hannivoort@interxnl.net> writes:
> 
>> Eric Bednarz wrote on 06 apr 2012 in comp.lang.javascript:
>>
>>> Dr Tarr and Professor Fether
>>> <reply1214@merlyn.demon.co.uk.not.invalid> write: 
>>> 
>>>> Because it annoys those with personality defects.
>>> 
>>> Those with personality defects use any opportunity to decorate
>>> themselves with academic credentials.
>>> 
>>>> IIRC, news:de.* has
>>>> such a rule; and there is a national tendency towards wanting to 
Rule
>>>> them All - Hermann, Lahn, Merkel,
>>> 
>>> In future, kindly confine your xenophobic exrements
> 
> Crikey, 

Blimey, do you speak Steve's Aussie too?

> I appear to have misspelled 'experiments'. 

Methinks you experimentally missed just the c between x and r, 
if that isn't foul, what is?

> But then, I'm just a badly educated Mof.

Mof is spelled kraut in English. John and I, we remember.

You are not that badly educated, methinks.

>>> to the small, dark
>>> rotten place in your head where they breed. Thank you.
>>
>> Eric, I hope you did not learn such foul words in the Enschede 
>> Conservatorium.
> 
> What foul words, 'breed'? 

Breed is spelled wide in css. [keeping the thread kind of on-topic.]

> I wasn't aware that the Bible Belt had annexed Twente. :-)

You are welcome here, both in the land of the Tuihanti and in this NG.

> In recent years, I *do* seem to have picked up a hypersensitivity to
> xenophobic bullshit, 

Voicing remembrance of WWII is not just xenophobic bullshit.

> mainly due to living in the bigger Netherlands area, 

Bigger than what? Belgium?

> though. Mea culpa (oh come on, you educated folks can't really
> think bad of them people who know their Latin, can you?).

Okay for me, but what about John?

-- 
Evertjan.
The Netherlands.
(Please change the x'es to dots in my emailaddress)

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#13267 — [OT] Re: A way of displaying an active Script

"Evertjan." <exjxw.hannivoort@interxnl.net> writes:

> Eric Bednarz wrote on 06 apr 2012 in comp.lang.javascript:

>> In recent years, I *do* seem to have picked up a hypersensitivity to
>> xenophobic bullshit, 
>
> Voicing remembrance of WWII is not just xenophobic bullshit.

Lemme recap:

| [...] and there is a national tendency towards wanting to Rule
| them All - Hermann, Lahn, Merkel, [...]

I'm not entirely sure who Hermann is (Billung?), but you can't be
serious. Really. "remembrance of WWII"?

And whatever Thomas' faults might be, and personally I think he's stuck
in hacker (the MIT railroad club kind, not the one you read about in the
yellow press) adolescence limbo for quite a bit tool long for his own
good, this is so out of line (and not the first time, *every* time) that
words fail me.

>> Mea culpa (oh come on, you educated folks can't really
>> think bad of them people who know their Latin, can you?).
>
> Okay for me, but what about John?

How about, without the Americans, whom he seems to despise, too, he
would speak German today?

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#13268 — Re: [OT] Re: A way of displaying an active Script

Eric Bednarz wrote on 06 apr 2012 in comp.lang.javascript:

> "Evertjan." <exjxw.hannivoort@interxnl.net> writes:
> 
>> Eric Bednarz wrote on 06 apr 2012 in comp.lang.javascript:
> 
>>> In recent years, I *do* seem to have picked up a hypersensitivity to
>>> xenophobic bullshit, 
>>
>> Voicing remembrance of WWII is not just xenophobic bullshit.
> 
> Lemme recap:
> 
>| [...] and there is a national tendency towards wanting to Rule
>| them All - Hermann, Lahn, Merkel, [...]
> 
> I'm not entirely sure who Hermann is (Billung?), but you can't be
> serious. Really. "remembrance of WWII"?

"and there is a national tendency towards wanting to Rule them All"

> And whatever Thomas' faults might be, and personally I think he's stuck
> in hacker 

I have no problems with Thomas. He has much to add in this NG.

> (the MIT railroad club kind, not the one you read about in the
> yellow press) adolescence limbo for quite a bit tool long for his own
> good, this is so out of line (and not the first time, *every* time) 
> that words fail me.

So please don't .

>>> Mea culpa (oh come on, you educated folks can't really
>>> think bad of them people who know their Latin, can you?).
>>
>> Okay for me, but what about John?
> 
> How about, without the Americans, whom he seems to despise, too, he
> would speak German today?


This was not a question about what you found of John, but if John accepts 
your ablative "mea culpa".

John speaks his languages very well, also Dutch.

The British did enough themselves to counter the German conquests of WWII 
and WWI. Thank you.

And for all the good work the transponders did, though they entered too 
late, that does not mean one should not be critical of your friends.
Being critical of ones enemies is easier.

-- 
Evertjan.
The Netherlands.
(Please change the x'es to dots in my emailaddress)

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#13269 — Re: [OT] Re: A way of displaying an active Script

"Evertjan." <exjxw.hannivoort@interxnl.net> writes:

> "and there is a national tendency towards wanting to Rule them All"

I heard it the first time. But without context, I forgot if that applies
to Dutch colonialism, British colonialism, or both. 

> This was not a question about what you found of John, but if John accepts 
> your ablative "mea culpa".

See, I appreciate that you both share a history of slave trading, but I
personally don't care what he accepts (for the greater good, I care if he
takes his medicine).

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#13277 — Re: [OT] Re: A way of displaying an active Script

"Evertjan." <exjxw.hannivoort@interxnl.net> writes:

> Eric Bednarz wrote on 06 apr 2012 in comp.lang.javascript:

>> Lemme recap:
>> 
>>| [...] and there is a national tendency towards wanting to Rule
>>| them All - Hermann, Lahn, Merkel, [...]
                        ^^^^
> "and there is a national tendency towards wanting to Rule them All"
>
>> And whatever Thomas' faults might be, and personally I think [...]

> I have no problems with Thomas. He has much to add in this NG.

Who *doesn't* see the (anti-)pattern here?

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#13295 — Re: [OT] Re: A way of displaying an active Script

In comp.lang.javascript message <XnsA02E30F1827Beejj99@194.109.133.133>,
Fri, 6 Apr 2012 22:18:05, Evertjan. <exjxw.hannivoort@interxnl.net>
posted:

>John speaks his languages very well, also Dutch.

We have another John among us?  I don't speak Foreign.
No-one needs to speak Dutch AFAIK; they all speak English as well as
Norwegians do (but not as loudly).

-- 
 (c) John Stockton, nr London, UK.    ?@merlyn.demon.co.uk     Turnpike v6.05.
 Website  <http://www.merlyn.demon.co.uk/> - w. FAQish topics, links, acronyms
 PAS EXE etc. : <http://www.merlyn.demon.co.uk/programs/> - see in 00index.htm
 Dates - miscdate.htm estrdate.htm js-dates.htm pas-time.htm critdate.htm etc.

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#13297 — Re: [OT] Re: A way of displaying an active Script

Dr J R Stockton wrote on 07 apr 2012 in comp.lang.javascript:

> In comp.lang.javascript message <XnsA02E30F1827Beejj99@194.109.133.133>,
> Fri, 6 Apr 2012 22:18:05, Evertjan. <exjxw.hannivoort@interxnl.net>
> posted:
> 
>>John speaks his languages very well, also Dutch.
> 
> We have another John among us?  I don't speak Foreign.
> No-one needs to speak Dutch AFAIK; they all speak English as well as
> Norwegians do (but not as loudly).

Perhaps "speak" is too much, sorry,
however your French and Dutch knowledge hes been shown here.

For the multilingual, one could read this, btw:

AN IRISHMAN'S DIFFICULTIES WITH THE DUTCH LANGUAGE,
BY CUEY NA GAEL (REV. JOHN IRWIN BROWN)
<http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/images/B0007B3UAY/ref=dp_image_z_0?
ie=UTF8&n=283155&s=books>
<http://homepages.cwi.nl/~wouter/irttest/irish.htm>

-- 
Evertjan.
The Netherlands.
(Please change the x'es to dots in my emailaddress)

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#13294

In comp.lang.javascript message <XnsA02DDD4FAA097eejj99@194.109.133.133>
, Fri, 6 Apr 2012 19:45:23, Evertjan. <exjxw.hannivoort@interxnl.net>
posted:

>Voicing remembrance of WWII is not just xenophobic bullshit.

As far as I know, none of the three mentioned participated in WWII.
Arminius was assassinated in AD 21, and Angela was born too late.

-- 
 (c) John Stockton, nr London UK. ?@merlyn.demon.co.uk  BP7, Delphi 3 & 2006.
   <http://www.merlyn.demon.co.uk/> TP/BP/Delphi/&c., FAQqy topics & links;
   <http://www.bancoems.com/CompLangPascalDelphiMisc-MiniFAQ.htm> clpdmFAQ;
   NOT <http://support.codegear.com/newsgroups/>: news:borland.* Guidelines

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#13298

Dr J R Stockton wrote on 07 apr 2012 in comp.lang.javascript:

> In comp.lang.javascript message <XnsA02DDD4FAA097eejj99@194.109.133.133>
> , Fri, 6 Apr 2012 19:45:23, Evertjan. <exjxw.hannivoort@interxnl.net>
> posted:
> 
>>Voicing remembrance of WWII is not just xenophobic bullshit.
> 
> As far as I know, none of the three mentioned participated in WWII.
> Arminius was assassinated in AD 21, and Angela was born too late.


While the Teutoburger Wald where Armin buzzied himself is near here,
Armin = Hermann = Hertog = Duce = Duke construction is of later date,
"Herman" could better be construed a "Nazi Göring".

And what about Sgt Walter Merkel of the 301st Bombardment Group?


-- 
Evertjan.
The Netherlands.
(Please change the x'es to dots in my emailaddress)

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#13200

On Mon, 2 Apr 2012 23:40:34 +0100, Dr J R Stockton
<reply1214@merlyn.demon.co.uk.not.invalid> wrote:

>I thought I'd try this, without much hope. It works in Firefox Opera
>Safari & Chrome; in IE8, the script is executed but not shown.  IE 9/10 ?

     What exactly does "works" mean here?

[snip]

Sincerely,

Gene Wirchenko

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#13221

In comp.lang.javascript message <unkmn7h6bqoti42d4bvtejcah5957jtg7r@4ax.
com>, Tue, 3 Apr 2012 12:44:55, Gene Wirchenko <genew@ocis.net> posted:

>On Mon, 2 Apr 2012 23:40:34 +0100, Dr J R Stockton
><reply1214@merlyn.demon.co.uk.not.invalid> wrote:
>
>>I thought I'd try this, without much hope. It works in Firefox Opera
>>Safari & Chrome; in IE8, the script is executed but not shown.  IE 9/10 ?
>
>     What exactly does "works" mean here?
>
>[snip]


First, the "<script ..." to "</script>" part is displayed as if it were
a DIV instead.  And its content is then treated as if the script were
not styled.

You could have discovered that by reading to the end of my previous
article, rather than snipping it.

You can now look at <http://www.merlyn.demon.co.uk/js-boxes.htm#SSE>,
with various browsers

In IE8, the style has no visible effect.

Note that, at least in Firefox, within the script element such as "<br>"
must be written like that, if a BR element is wanted in the final DOM
tree rather than a text element "<br>".  Obviously, the content of the
script element as such is not parsed as HTML, though its output is.

Perhaps other normally-invisible Objects, such as those in the Head, can
be revealed similarly.  Yes, in FF11, the Title can be made visible just
above the Body's border by display:block.

-- 
 (c) John Stockton, nr London UK  ?@merlyn.demon.co.uk  IE8 FF8 Op11 Sf5 Cr15
   news:comp.lang.javascript FAQ <http://www.jibbering.com/faq/index.html>.
   <http://www.merlyn.demon.co.uk/js-index.htm> jscr maths, dates, sources.
   <http://www.merlyn.demon.co.uk/> TP/BP/Delphi/jscr/&c, FAQ items, links.

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#13225

Dr J R Stockton <reply1214@merlyn.demon.co.uk.not.invalid> writes:

> You can now look at <http://www.merlyn.demon.co.uk/js-boxes.htm#SSE>

There is no nice way to say this, so I'll say it my way:
Next time, *please* warn people who are not color-blind. Above the URL,
not below. TIA.

> [...] Yes, in FF11, the Title can be made visible just
> above the Body's border

The what?

> by display:block.

You can do that since Firefox *1* (and probably earlier, and in a lot of
other really old browsers), but not without changing the display
property of the HEAD element, too.

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