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  How to replace a class? justaguy <lichunshen84@gmail.com> - 2016-11-08 18:53 -0800
    Re: How to replace a class? justaguy <lichunshen84@gmail.com> - 2016-11-10 07:45 -0800
      Re: How to replace a class? Ram Tobolski <ramtob@gmail.com> - 2016-11-10 10:08 -0800
        Re: How to replace a class? justaguy <lichunshen84@gmail.com> - 2016-11-10 11:58 -0800
          Re: How to replace a class? justaguy <lichunshen84@gmail.com> - 2016-11-10 13:06 -0800
            Re: How to replace a class? Ram Tobolski <ramtob@gmail.com> - 2016-11-10 13:37 -0800
              Re: How to replace a class? justaguy <lichunshen84@gmail.com> - 2016-11-10 14:09 -0800
                Re: How to replace a class? "Evertjan." <exxjxw.hannivoort@inter.nl.net> - 2016-11-11 00:01 +0100
            Re: How to replace a class? "Evertjan." <exxjxw.hannivoort@inter.nl.net> - 2016-11-10 22:51 +0100
              Re: How to replace a class? justaguy <lichunshen84@gmail.com> - 2016-11-10 14:09 -0800
          Re: How to replace a class? Thomas 'PointedEars' Lahn <PointedEars@web.de> - 2016-11-10 23:20 +0100
            Re: How to replace a class? John Harris <niam@jghnorth.org.uk.invalid> - 2016-11-11 10:24 +0000
              Re: How to replace a class? Thomas 'PointedEars' Lahn <PointedEars@web.de> - 2016-11-11 12:37 +0100
                Re: How to replace a class? John Harris <niam@jghnorth.org.uk.invalid> - 2016-11-12 17:09 +0000
            Re: How to replace a class? John Harris <niam@jghnorth.org.uk.invalid> - 2016-11-11 10:41 +0000
              Re: How to replace a class? Thomas 'PointedEars' Lahn <PointedEars@web.de> - 2016-11-11 12:43 +0100
                Re: How to replace a class? "Evertjan." <exxjxw.hannivoort@inter.nl.net> - 2016-11-11 14:52 +0100
                  Re: How to replace a class? Thomas 'PointedEars' Lahn <PointedEars@web.de> - 2016-11-11 15:11 +0100
                    Re: How to replace a class? "Evertjan." <exxjxw.hannivoort@inter.nl.net> - 2016-11-11 15:30 +0100
                      Re: How to replace a class? Thomas 'PointedEars' Lahn <PointedEars@web.de> - 2016-11-11 16:41 +0100
                        Re: How to replace a class? "Evertjan." <exxjxw.hannivoort@inter.nl.net> - 2016-11-11 23:54 +0100
                Re: How to replace a class? John Harris <niam@jghnorth.org.uk.invalid> - 2016-11-12 18:42 +0000
              Re: How to replace a class? "Evertjan." <exxjxw.hannivoort@inter.nl.net> - 2016-11-11 14:46 +0100
                Re: How to replace a class? John Harris <niam@jghnorth.org.uk.invalid> - 2016-11-12 14:51 +0000
                  Re: How to replace a class? "Evertjan." <exxjxw.hannivoort@inter.nl.net> - 2016-11-12 20:13 +0100
                    Re: How to replace a class? justaguy <lichunshen84@gmail.com> - 2016-11-12 11:35 -0800
                    Re: How to replace a class? John Harris <niam@jghnorth.org.uk.invalid> - 2016-11-13 11:13 +0000
        Re: How to replace a class? Thomas 'PointedEars' Lahn <PointedEars@web.de> - 2016-11-10 23:11 +0100
          Re: How to replace a class? justaguy <lichunshen84@gmail.com> - 2016-11-10 15:08 -0800
      Re: How to replace a class? "Evertjan." <exxjxw.hannivoort@inter.nl.net> - 2016-11-10 20:37 +0100
        Re: How to replace a class? justaguy <lichunshen84@gmail.com> - 2016-11-10 11:59 -0800
          Re: How to replace a class? "Evertjan." <exxjxw.hannivoort@inter.nl.net> - 2016-11-10 21:01 +0100

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#31660 — How to replace a class?

/* create elements of span each with an image and assign them to a same class
*/
var el = document.createElement("span");
el.innerHTML = "<img src='myImg.png'>";						
document.body.appendChild(el);
// add some space
var sp = document.createElement("span");
	sp.className = "Space";
	/*
	sp.style.width = "15px";
	*/
	sp.innerHTML = "<img src='someSpace.png' border=0>";
document.body.appendChild(sp);	

var newClass = "anotherObj";

Then, there would variable length of such elements, how do I replace all the elements with class name of "Space" with another class?

Thanks.

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#31661

On Wednesday, November 9, 2016 at 1:56:15 AM UTC-5, Evertjan. wrote:
> justaguy <> wrote on 09 Nov 2016 in
> comp.lang.javascript: 
> 
> > 
> > /* create elements of span each with an image and assign them to a same
> > class */
> > var el = document.createElement("span");
> > el.innerHTML = "<img src='myImg.png'>";                              
> > document.body.appendChild(el);
> > // add some space
> > var sp = document.createElement("span");
> >      sp.className = "Space";
> >      /*
> >      sp.style.width = "15px";
> >      */
> >      sp.innerHTML = "<img src='someSpace.png' border=0>";
> > document.body.appendChild(sp);     
> > 
> > var newClass = "anotherObj";
> > 
> > Then, there would variable length of such elements,
> 
> Which elements, the spans?
> 
> Would there, is this Genesis?
> 
> > how do I replace all
> > the elements with class name of "Space" with another class? 
> 
> This Q is independent of the above.
> 
> Google "how to replace all elements classname"
> and read the many discussions on stackoverflow!
> 
> Please first Google!
> 

I did, however, query like ""how to replace all elements classname" did not yield satisfactory returns, thus, asking here.

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#31662

>Then, there would variable length of such elements, how do I replace all the elements with class name of "Space" with another class?

Like this?

let elements = document.getElementsByClassName("Space");
elements.forEach(element => element.className = newClass);

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#31664

On Thursday, November 10, 2016 at 1:08:07 PM UTC-5, Ram Tobolski wrote:
> >Then, there would variable length of such elements, how do I replace all the elements with class name of "Space" with another class?
> 
> Like this?
> 
> let elements = document.getElementsByClassName("Space");
> elements.forEach(element => element.className = newClass);

Promising.  dev mode / debugging mode with Chrome seems to indicate correct is correct, however, the replaced element were not rendered with the Chrome browser.

Here's the entire code:

// global var to hold elements for multiple functions
var elS = [];

var addPC = function() {
	var el = document.createElement("span");
	el.innerHTML = "<img src='pc.png'>";						
	document.body.appendChild(el);
	
	// add some space
	var sp = document.createElement("span");
		sp.className = "Space";
		/*
		sp.style.width = "15px";
		*/
		sp.innerHTML = "<img src='spacer.png' border=0>";
	document.body.appendChild(sp);	
							
	// send to global elS as well
	elS.push(sp);
	
} 
			
var connector = function() {

// define line class
	let lineC = document.getElementsByClassName('Line');
		lineC.innerHTML = "<img src='line.png'>";

// debug
	console.log(elS);
	
// replace class
elS.forEach(el => (el.className = "Line")); 
// elS.forEach(el => (el.innerHTML = "<img src='line.png' border=0")); 
	
}	

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#31667

On Thursday, November 10, 2016 at 3:27:13 PM UTC-5, Evertjan. wrote:
> justaguy  wrote on 10 Nov 2016 in
> comp.lang.javascript: 
> 
> > On Thursday, November 10, 2016 at 1:08:07 PM UTC-5, Ram Tobolski wrote:
> >> >Then, there would variable length of such elements, how do I replace
> >> >all the elements with class name of "Space" with another class? 
> >> 
> >> Like this?
> >> 
> >> let elements = document.getElementsByClassName("Space");
> >> elements.forEach(element => element.className = newClass);
> > 
> > Promising.  dev mode / debugging mode with Chrome seems to indicate
> > correct is correct, 
> 
> Correct is always correct, it is a circular argument.
> 
> > however, the replaced element were not rendered with
> > the Chrome browser. 
> 
> I doubt that, then it would be INcorrect.
> 
> > Here's the entire code:
> > 
> > // global var to hold elements for multiple functions
> > var elS = [];
> 
> The below function addPC() will not run,
> because it is not called anywhere.
> 
> > var addPC = function() {
> >      var el = document.createElement("span");
> >      el.innerHTML = "<img src='pc.png'>";                              
> >      document.body.appendChild(el);
> >      
> >      // add some space
> >      var sp = document.createElement("span");
> >           sp.className = "Space";
> >           sp.innerHTML = "<img src='spacer.png' border=0>";
> >      document.body.appendChild(sp);     
> >                                    
> >      // send to global elS as well
> 
> why?
> 
> >      elS.push(sp);
> >      
> >} 
> 
> The below function connector() will not run,
> because it is not called anywhere.
>                
> > var connector = function() {
> > 
> > // define line class
> 
> That is not defining a class, 
> that is just making a pointer to a collection of elements.
> 
> >      let lineC = document.getElementsByClassName('Line');
> 
> So this is a collection of elements.
> 
> >           lineC.innerHTML = "<img src='line.png'>";
> 
> A collection of elements cannot have an innerHTML.
> 
> You could give the first element of that collection an innerHTML,
> like this:
> 
> lineC[0].innerHTML = "<img src='line.png'>";
> 
> > // debug
> >      console.log(elS);
> >      
> > // replace class
> > elS.forEach(el => (el.className = "Line"));
> 
> ???
>  
> >}     
> 
> 
> 

Line class definition was totally wrong, I was coping/pasting, not thinking...

Entire code below.  Thanks.

<!doctype html>
<html lang="en">
<head>

<script>
	
	// global var: el
	// for moving element, later
	var elMove = document.createElement("span");
	
	// global var to hold elements for multiple functions
	var elS = [];
	
	var addPC = function() {
		var el = document.createElement("span");
		el.innerHTML = "<img src='pc.png'>";						
		document.body.appendChild(el);
		
		// add some space
		var sp = document.createElement("span");
			sp.className = "Space";
			/*
			sp.style.width = "15px";
			*/
			sp.innerHTML = "<img src='spacer.png' border=0>";
		document.body.appendChild(sp);	
								
		// send to global elS as well
		elS.push(sp);
		
	} 
				
	var connector = function() {
	
	// define line class
	let style = document.createElement('style');
		style.type = "text/css";
/* FOLLOWING LINE is critical, however, it does not seem to have included such an img element in the span with newly changed Class of "Line"
*/
		style.innerHTML = ".Line { img : src='line.png'}";
		document.getElementsByTagName('head')[0].appendChild(style);

	// debug
		console.log(elS);
		
	// replace class
	elS.forEach(el => (el.className = "Line")); 
	// elS.forEach(sp => (sp.innerHTML = "<img src='line.png' border=0")); 
		
	}	
	
</script>
</head>

<body>

	<form>

	<p>Some text here</p>. <input type="button" value="add PC" onclick="addPC();"> &nbsp;&nbsp; 
	<input type="button" value="connect them" onclick="connector();">
	<br/><br/>
	
	</form>

</body>
</html>

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#31668

>Entire code below.

Rather than loading a lot of code into a post, it will be better if you upload your code to a "playground" site, like codepen, jsfiddle, jsbin etc, and then put a link to your code in the post.

>style.innerHTML = ".Line { img : src='line.png'}"; 

There is no such style. This is conflating CSS with HTML.

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#31671

On Thursday, November 10, 2016 at 4:37:52 PM UTC-5, Ram Tobolski wrote:
> >Entire code below.
> 
> Rather than loading a lot of code into a post, it will be better if you upload your code to a "playground" site, like codepen, jsfiddle, jsbin etc, and then put a link to your code in the post.
> 
> >style.innerHTML = ".Line { img : src='line.png'}"; 
> 
> There is no such style. This is conflating CSS with HTML.

How do we fix this line?

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#31676

justaguy <lichunshen84@gmail.com> wrote on 10 Nov 2016 in
comp.lang.javascript: 

> On Thursday, November 10, 2016 at 4:37:52 PM UTC-5, Ram Tobolski wrote:
>> >Entire code below.
>> 
>> Rather than loading a lot of code into a post, it will be better if you
>> upload your code to a "playground" site, like codepen, jsfiddle, jsbin
>> etc, and then put a link to your code in the post. 
>> 
>> >style.innerHTML = ".Line { img : src='line.png'}"; 
>> 
>> There is no such style. This is conflating CSS with HTML.
> 
> How do we fix this line?

It is not broken,
it just has no meaning.

-- 
Evertjan.
The Netherlands.
(Please change the x'es to dots in my emailaddress)

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#31669

justaguy <lichunshen84@gmail.com> wrote on 10 Nov 2016 in 
comp.lang.javascript:

> I was coping/pasting, not thinking...

Good diagnosis.

That is why I refrain from giving you a working code,
you would just copy and past it, and not understand the code.

However would you debug what you do not understand?

And you would not learn anything.
 
> Entire code below.  Thanks.

No thanks. 


-- 
Evertjan.
The Netherlands.
(Please change the x'es to dots in my emailaddress)

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#31670

On Thursday, November 10, 2016 at 4:51:17 PM UTC-5, Evertjan. wrote:
> justaguy <> wrote on 10 Nov 2016 in 
> comp.lang.javascript:
> 
> > I was coping/pasting, not thinking...
> 
> Good diagnosis.
> 
> That is why I refrain from giving you a working code,
> you would just copy and past it, and not understand the code.
> 
> However would you debug what you do not understand?
> 
> And you would not learn anything.
>  
> > Entire code below.  Thanks.
> 
> No thanks. 

The following LINE was the culprit:
style.innerHTML = ".Line { img : src='line.png'}"; 

however, 
style.innerHTML = ".Line { <img src='line.png'> }" does not follow CSS coding convention...
 

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#31674

Evertjan. wrote:

>> // define line class
> 
> That is not defining a class,
> that is just making a pointer to a collection of elements.

There are no pointers in these languages (except in the low-level 
implementation).  The proper term is _reference_.
 
>>      let lineC = document.getElementsByClassName('Line');
> 
> So this is a collection of elements.

It is not a collection, but a node list (an object implementing the NodeList 
interface); by contrast, the items of a collection (an object implementing 
the HTMLCollection interface, for example) can also be addressed by non-
numeric index, by the name of an item, using the bracket property accessor 
or calling the namedItem() method (with a string parameter).

Your From header field still violates network standards and Netiquette.  As 
to the former, read <https://tools.ietf.org/html/rfc5536#section-3.1.2>.
 
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#31683

On Thu, 10 Nov 2016 23:20:21 +0100, Thomas 'PointedEars' Lahn
<PointedEars@web.de> wrote:

  <snip>
>There are no pointers in these languages (except in the low-level 
>implementation).  The proper term is _reference_.
  <snip>

Unfortunately, ECMA 262 uses 'reference' with several different
meanings. The only use of the word with Thomas's meaning is in
informal (non-normative) sections and notes. The formal meaning is
defined in Section 6.2.3. It is a rather complicated kind of pointer
to a property; it is NOT the *value* of the property.

Therefore 
  "The proper term is _reference_." 
should be changed to 
  "The proper term is _reference_ (informal meaning)."

  John

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#31686

John Harris wrote:

> […] Thomas 'PointedEars' Lahn […] wrote:
>> There are no pointers in these languages (except in the low-level
>> implementation).  The proper term is _reference_.
> 
> Unfortunately, ECMA 262 uses 'reference' with several different
> meanings.

ECMA-262 is irrelevant in that regard.  This is a term borrowed from Java, 
which JavaScript was designed to resemble, and therefore applicable to all 
ECMAScript implementations; a term that is used in various object-oriented 
programming languages (including those that are not implementations of 
ECMAScript).

“Reference” is to be understood as “reference to an object”.  For in those 
languages there can be multiple properties referring to the same object, all 
having the same value – a reference to that object –, and that object can be 
marked for garbage collection if there are no more references to it.

> The only use of the word with Thomas's meaning is in
> informal (non-normative) sections and notes. The formal meaning is
> defined in Section 6.2.3. It is a rather complicated kind of pointer
> to a property; it is NOT the *value* of the property.

Utter nonsense.
 
> Therefore
>   "The proper term is _reference_."
> should be changed to
>   "The proper term is _reference_ (informal meaning)."

No, it should not.

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#31708

On Fri, 11 Nov 2016 12:37:08 +0100, Thomas 'PointedEars' Lahn
<PointedEars@web.de> wrote:

>John Harris wrote:
>
>> […] Thomas 'PointedEars' Lahn […] wrote:
>>> There are no pointers in these languages (except in the low-level
>>> implementation).  The proper term is _reference_.
>> 
>> Unfortunately, ECMA 262 uses 'reference' with several different
>> meanings.
>
>ECMA-262 is irrelevant in that regard.  This is a term borrowed from Java, 
>which JavaScript was designed to resemble, and therefore applicable to all 
>ECMAScript implementations;

This is a policy that will lead to considerable confusion. 

When you, Thomas, write 'property' must we assume you mean a
Java-style property (which is different from an ECMAScript property)?

When you write that a variable's value is an 'integer' must we assume
you mean a 32 bit Java-style integer (which is not an ECMAScript user
type)?


> a term that is used in various object-oriented 
>programming languages (including those that are not implementations of 
>ECMAScript).

In C++ a reference variable has a meaning that is different from the
one you are using.


>“Reference” is to be understood as “reference to an object”.  For in those 
>languages there can be multiple properties referring to the same object, all 
>having the same value – a reference to that object –, and that object can be 
>marked for garbage collection if there are no more references to it.

a) As primitive strings cannot be altered the compiler is allowed to
use a copy-on-write strategy for them. When it does this, the property
value will be implemented as a Java-style reference. So it's not just
"to an object".

b) ECMA 262 does not require that when a property holds an object it
must be implemented as a Java-style reference or pointer. Equally, it
does not prohibit it. Indeed, if two variables hold the same object
the use of pointers, alias references, is very likely; in which case
it might as well be used when there is only one such variable, but it
is *not* a conformance requirement.

c) ECMA 262 does not require a garbage collector, but, as usual,
allows it.


>> The only use of the word with Thomas's meaning is in
>> informal (non-normative) sections and notes. The formal meaning is
>> defined in Section 6.2.3. It is a rather complicated kind of pointer
>> to a property; it is NOT the *value* of the property.
>
>Utter nonsense.

Are you saying that Section 6.2.3 does not exist? Are you saying that
there is no need for ECMA 262 to define a GetValue specification
function for ECMAScript references?

Yes to either would suggest you've gone doolally.

 
>> Therefore
>>   "The proper term is _reference_."
>> should be changed to
>>   "The proper term is _reference_ (informal meaning)."
>
>No, it should not.

Obviously it should.

  John

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#31684

On Thu, 10 Nov 2016 23:20:21 +0100, Thomas 'PointedEars' Lahn
<PointedEars@web.de> wrote:

>Evertjan. wrote:

  <snip>
>Your From header field still violates network standards and Netiquette.  As 
>to the former, read <https://tools.ietf.org/html/rfc5536#section-3.1.2>.

In what way can 
  'From: "Evertjan." <exxjxw.hannivoort@inter.nl.net>' 
possibly disobey the rfc ?

As for Netiquette, the rules obviously depend on his nationality.

  John

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#31687

[Supersedes, for correction and completeness]

John Harris wrote:

> […] Thomas 'PointedEars' Lahn […] wrote:
>> Evertjan. wrote:
>   <snip>
>> Your From header field still violates network standards and Netiquette. 
>> As to the former, read
>> <https://tools.ietf.org/html/rfc5536#section-3.1.2>.
> 
> In what way can
>   'From: "Evertjan." <exxjxw.hannivoort@inter.nl.net>'
> possibly disobey the rfc ?

Let me break it down for you one more time:

,-<https://tools.ietf.org/html/rfc5536#section-3.1.2>
| 
| 3.1.2.  From
| 
|    The From header field is the same as that specified in Section 3.6.2
|    of [RFC5322], with the added restrictions detailed above in
|    Section 2.2.
| 
|    from            =  "From:" SP mailbox-list CRLF
| […]

,-<https://tools.ietf.org/html/rfc5322#section-3.6.2>
| 
| 3.4.  Address Specification
| 
|    Addresses occur in several message header fields to indicate senders
|    and recipients of messages.  An address may either be an individual
|    mailbox, or a group of mailboxes.
| 
|    address         =   mailbox / group
| 
|    mailbox         =   name-addr / addr-spec
| 
|    name-addr       =   [display-name] angle-addr
| 
|    angle-addr      =   [CFWS] "<" addr-spec ">" [CFWS] /
|                        obs-angle-addr
|    […]
|    display-name    =   phrase
| 
|    mailbox-list    =   (mailbox *("," mailbox)) / obs-mbox-list
| […]
| 
|    A mailbox receives mail. […]
| 
| 3.6.2.  Originator Fields
| 
|    The originator fields of a message consist of the from field, the
|    sender field (when applicable), and optionally the reply-to field.
|    The from field consists of the field name "From" and a comma-
|    separated list of one or more mailbox specifications. […]
| 
|    from            =   "From:" mailbox-list CRLF
| 
|    […]
| 
|    The originator fields indicate the mailbox(es) of the source of the
|    message.  The "From:" field specifies the author(s) of the message,
|    that is, the mailbox(es) of the person(s) or system(s) responsible
|    for the writing of the message. […]
| 
|    In all cases, the "From:" field SHOULD NOT contain any mailbox that
|    does not belong to the author(s) of the message. […]

But:

,----
| $ host -t MX inter.nl.net
| inter.nl.net mail is handled by 20 mx20.se.isp-net.nl.
| inter.nl.net mail is handled by 10 mx10.se.isp-net.nl.
| 
| $ ssh **** telnet -- mx20.se.isp-net.nl smtp
| Trying 82.215.18.4...
| Connected to mx20.se.isp-net.nl.
| Escape character is '^]'.
| 220 filter02nm.se.isp-net.nl ESMTP Exim 4.86-108158 Fri, 11 Nov 2016 
| 12:06:46 +0100
| HELO ****
| 250 filter02nm.se.isp-net.nl Hello **** [****]
| MAIL FROM:<exxjxw.hannivoort@inter.nl.net>
| 250 OK
| RCPT TO:<exxjxw.hannivoort@inter.nl.net>
| 550-5.1.1 <exxjxw.hannivoort@inter.nl.net>: Recipient address rejected:
| 550 User unknown in virtual mailbox table
| QUIT
| 221 filter02nm.se.isp-net.nl closing connection
| Connection closed by foreign host.
`----

(The same is true for mx10.se.isp-net.nl.)

IOW, exxjxw.hannivoort@inter.nl.net is not an e-mail address.

See also: <http://www.interhack.net/pubs/munging-harmful/>

> As for Netiquette, the rules obviously depend on his nationality.

Of course not.

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#31689

Thomas 'PointedEars' Lahn <PointedEars@web.de> wrote on 11 Nov 2016 in 
comp.lang.javascript:

> IOW, exxjxw.hannivoort@inter.nl.net is not an e-mail address.

It is a form-valid email-address.

What part are you objecting to, Thomas?
 
> See also: <http://www.interhack.net/pubs/munging-harmful/>

So what, that is just one man's 1998 meaning. I disagree.
 
>> As for Netiquette, the rules obviously depend on his nationality.
> 
> Of course not.

Acc.

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#31691

Evertjan. wrote:

> Thomas 'PointedEars' Lahn <PointedEars@web.de> wrote on 11 Nov 2016 in
> comp.lang.javascript:
> 
>> IOW, exxjxw.hannivoort@inter.nl.net is not an e-mail address.
> 
> It is a form-valid email-address.

No.  An e-mail address specifies a mailbox.  “A mailbox receives (e-)mail.”  
No e-mail can be sent to which you claim would be an e-mail address.
 
> What part are you objecting to, Thomas?

That which looks like an e-mail address is not one as it does not specify a 
mailbox.  This is a violation of network standards, and a blatant disregard 
of Netiquette, on your part.
  
>> See also: <http://www.interhack.net/pubs/munging-harmful/>
> 
> So what, that is just one man's 1998 meaning. I disagree.

The arguments made there are still valid.  In particular, if someone would 
register that which you are misusing in your From header field values, they 
would be bothered with messages meant for you; so you are spoiling a 
namespace that does not belong to you.  As it is, the admin(s) of your 
server(s) is bothered with error messages caused by messages meant for you, 
and people who want to send private messages to you are bothered with 
unexpected bounces (you *cannot* expect people to fiddle with their e-mail 
clients, let alone to know that they need to fiddle with them; your 
signature where you put is a hint as to that is not part of the message and 
may not even be displayed).

You are making life harder for everyone else, and you are *helping* spammers 
to destroy e-mail as a viable communications medium even though it is very 
easy and inexpensive for you to avoid getting spam using proper ways.

You should be ashamed of yourself, especially as this has been explained to 
you several times before.
  
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#31693

Thomas 'PointedEars' Lahn <PointedEars@web.de> wrote on 11 Nov 2016 in
comp.lang.javascript: 

> Evertjan. wrote:
> 
>> Thomas 'PointedEars' Lahn <PointedEars@web.de> wrote on 11 Nov 2016 in
>> comp.lang.javascript:
>> 
>>> IOW, exxjxw.hannivoort@inter.nl.net is not an e-mail address.
>> 
>> It is a form-valid email-address.
> 
> No.  An e-mail address specifies a mailbox.  “A mailbox receives
> (e-)mail.”  No e-mail can be sent to which you claim would be an
> e-mail address. 

I do not claim that.
Don't put words into my mouth. 
It is a form-valid email-address, I said.

>  
>> What part are you objecting to, Thomas?
> 
> That which looks 

I asked which PART!!!

> like an e-mail address is not one as it does not
> specify a mailbox. 

Not at all, it is you that thinks it look like an email-address,
while you profess to know better.

Many email-addresses are not email-boxes.

> This is a violation of network standards, 

I don't mind if standards are violated, if that is usefull.

> and a blatant disregard of Netiquette, 

Weel, we seem to differ about what is blatant,
and also if that is part of Netiquette.

on your part.

Do you think there would be a cause fot thinking
it was on Hillary's part?


>>> See also: <http://www.interhack.net/pubs/munging-harmful/>
>> 
>> So what, that is just one man's 1998 meaning. I disagree.
> 
> The arguments made there are still valid.

That is your opinion.

[..]
> 
> You are making life harder for everyone else, and you are *helping*
> spammers to destroy e-mail as a viable communications medium even though
> it is very easy and inexpensive for you to avoid getting spam using
> proper ways. 

Well, you are sometimes, making life harder, life is hard as it is. 

> You should be ashamed of yourself, especially as this has been explained
> to you several times before.

You are a silly little boy, 
always thinking that others should behave as you "explain" them to do.

The value of your opinion is not augmented if you state it again and again.

I am not ashamed to sometimes disagree with you, I your arguments stink.

Generally I think it is unusefull to be ashamed at all.

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The Netherlands.
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#31700

Evertjan. wrote:

> Thomas 'PointedEars' Lahn […] wrote […]:
>> Evertjan. wrote:
>>> Thomas 'PointedEars' Lahn […] wrote […]:
>>>> IOW, exxjxw.hannivoort@inter.nl.net is not an e-mail address.
>>> It is a form-valid email-address.
>> No.  An e-mail address specifies a mailbox.  “A mailbox receives
>> (e-)mail.”  No e-mail can be sent to which you claim would be an
>> e-mail address.
> 
> I do not claim that.
> Don't put words into my mouth.
> It is a form-valid email-address, I said.

There is no such thing except in your anti-social address munger’s fantasy 
land.  A string of characters either specifies a mailbox, that which 
receives mail (as described in the RFC); then it is an e-mail address.
Or it does not, then it is not.

>>> What part are you objecting to, Thomas?
>> 
>> That which looks
> 
> I asked which PART!!!

The address part, of course – as you could have read below.
 
>> like an e-mail address is not one as it does not
>> specify a mailbox.
> 
> Not at all, it is you that thinks it look like an email-address,
> while you profess to know better.
> 
> Many email-addresses are not email-boxes.

Utter nonsense.
 
> [tl;dr]
> 
>> You should be ashamed of yourself, especially as this has been explained
>> to you several times before.
> 
> You are a silly little boy,
> always thinking that others should behave as you "explain" them to do.
> 
> The value of your opinion is not augmented if you state it again and
> again.
> 
> I am not ashamed to sometimes disagree with you, I your arguments stink.
> 
> Generally I think it is unusefull to be ashamed at all.

Obviously, the same as it is futile to try to convince a troll that they are 
trolling and ought to stop, it is futile to convince an anti-social being 
such as yourself that their behavior is blatantly anti-social.  You should 
be disconnected from the network permanently.

<https://www.internl.net/sites/default/files/algemene-voorwaarden-internlnet-oktober-v1-2016.pdf>

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