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Re: How to replace a class?

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John Harris wrote:

> […] Thomas 'PointedEars' Lahn […] wrote:
>> There are no pointers in these languages (except in the low-level
>> implementation).  The proper term is _reference_.
> 
> Unfortunately, ECMA 262 uses 'reference' with several different
> meanings.

ECMA-262 is irrelevant in that regard.  This is a term borrowed from Java, 
which JavaScript was designed to resemble, and therefore applicable to all 
ECMAScript implementations; a term that is used in various object-oriented 
programming languages (including those that are not implementations of 
ECMAScript).

“Reference” is to be understood as “reference to an object”.  For in those 
languages there can be multiple properties referring to the same object, all 
having the same value – a reference to that object –, and that object can be 
marked for garbage collection if there are no more references to it.

> The only use of the word with Thomas's meaning is in
> informal (non-normative) sections and notes. The formal meaning is
> defined in Section 6.2.3. It is a rather complicated kind of pointer
> to a property; it is NOT the *value* of the property.

Utter nonsense.
 
> Therefore
>   "The proper term is _reference_."
> should be changed to
>   "The proper term is _reference_ (informal meaning)."

No, it should not.

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          Re: How to replace a class? John Harris <niam@jghnorth.org.uk.invalid> - 2016-11-11 10:24 +0000
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              Re: How to replace a class? John Harris <niam@jghnorth.org.uk.invalid> - 2016-11-12 17:09 +0000
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