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Re: Scroll position detection

From Joao Rodrigues <groups_jr-1@yahoo.com.br>
Newsgroups comp.lang.javascript
Subject Re: Scroll position detection
Date 2013-05-27 18:35 -0300
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On 27/05/2013 16:10, Thomas 'PointedEars' Lahn wrote:
> Joao Rodrigues wrote:
>> The W3C Editors' Draft has just been updated (27 May 2013):
>> <http://dev.w3.org/csswg/cssom-view/>
>>
>> Note that the pageYOffset attribute (which actually returns the same
>> value returned by the scrollY attribute) is just one item among many
>> others of that document. AFAIC pageYOffset hasn't changed since the
>> latest version of the Working Draft.
>
> An Editor's Draft has even less significance than a Working Draft.  A
> Recommendation has the support of the W3C Membership, which is why it is
> reasonably called a “Web standard”.  A Working Draft usually (but not
> always) has the support of all people of the Working Group (and so, it can
> be assumed, by the companies they work for, unless they are independent
> invited experts).  An Editor's Draft does not have even that.

You talk as if you were a member of the W3C or the CSS Working Group. 
But searching for "Thomas PointedEars Lahn" in Google, I couldn't find 
anything about your work other than thousands of posts in Usenet, many 
of them containing pedantic assertions and/or aggressive and abusive 
language specially with newcomers.

>
>> Nowadays, pageYOffset is widely supported by *all* major web browsers
>> (IE9+, FF3+, Safari 4+, Chrome 4+, Opera 10+) since the Working Draft
>> was produced by the W3C's CSS Working Group (people from Microsoft,
>> Google, Mozilla, Opera, Apple, Adobe, W3C Staff, HP, Intel, etc., even
>> from jQuery Foundation - sorry to let you know that.)
>> <http://www.w3.org/Style/CSS/members>
>
> Do you really not realize how embarrassing your continuing unfounded, stupid
> megalomania is for you?

Only you are the megalomaniac here, mister. Do you think you are of any 
importance in the web development world? If so, where are your videos, 
books and any other reference material. Personal website doesn't count.

> I have been doing professional Web development for
> 13 years now, Web development in general even longer,

Professional?! I don't think so. Obviously you live on Government funds, 
doing nothing all day long other than abusing and trolling everybody 
here in comp.lang.javascript. And you have been doing that for long 13 
years for sure. That's what Internet archives tell me so. Angela Merkel 
should be told about that.

> and I certainly do not
> need to be lectured – by you of all people – about browser support or the
> W3C.
>

Quoting you: "Usenet is _not_ a one-to-one communications medium". So, 
I'm not lecturing anything.

>> Therefore, going back to the OP's code, I cannot see any reason to not
>> test for window.pageYOffset before testing for the MSIE proprietary
>> scrollTop.
>
> The thing that you apparently are unable to understand is that *both*
> properties are nothing but proprietary as of now.
>

That pageYOffset is proprietary?!?! Now you're delusional.

-- 
Joao Rodrigues

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Scroll position detection Tuxedo <tuxedo@mailinator.com> - 2013-05-25 12:08 +0200
  Re: Scroll position detection "Evertjan." <exxjxw.hannivoort@inter.nl.net> - 2013-05-25 13:12 +0200
    Re: Scroll position detection Tuxedo <tuxedo@mailinator.com> - 2013-05-25 16:02 +0200
    Re: Scroll position detection Joao Rodrigues <groups_jr-1@yahoo.com.br> - 2013-05-27 01:07 -0300
      Re: Scroll position detection Thomas 'PointedEars' Lahn <PointedEars@web.de> - 2013-05-27 11:48 +0200
        Re: Scroll position detection Joao Rodrigues <groups_jr-1@yahoo.com.br> - 2013-05-27 09:33 -0300
          Re: Scroll position detection Thomas 'PointedEars' Lahn <PointedEars@web.de> - 2013-05-27 14:39 +0200
            Re: Scroll position detection Joao Rodrigues <groups_jr-1@yahoo.com.br> - 2013-05-27 11:33 -0300
              Re: Scroll position detection Thomas 'PointedEars' Lahn <PointedEars@web.de> - 2013-05-27 16:42 +0200
          Re: Scroll position detection Denis McMahon <denismfmcmahon@gmail.com> - 2013-05-27 12:37 +0000
            Re: Scroll position detection Joao Rodrigues <groups_jr-1@yahoo.com.br> - 2013-05-27 09:57 -0300
              Re: Scroll position detection Thomas 'PointedEars' Lahn <PointedEars@web.de> - 2013-05-27 16:45 +0200
                Re: Scroll position detection Joao Rodrigues <groups_jr-1@yahoo.com.br> - 2013-05-27 11:58 -0300
                Re: Scroll position detection Thomas 'PointedEars' Lahn <PointedEars@web.de> - 2013-05-27 17:27 +0200
                Re: Scroll position detection Joao Rodrigues <groups_jr-1@yahoo.com.br> - 2013-05-27 13:12 -0300
                Re: Scroll position detection Thomas 'PointedEars' Lahn <PointedEars@web.de> - 2013-05-27 19:41 +0200
                Re: Scroll position detection Joao Rodrigues <groups_jr-1@yahoo.com.br> - 2013-05-27 15:24 -0300
                Re: Scroll position detection Thomas 'PointedEars' Lahn <PointedEars@web.de> - 2013-05-27 21:10 +0200
                Re: Scroll position detection Joao Rodrigues <groups_jr-1@yahoo.com.br> - 2013-05-27 18:35 -0300
                Re: Scroll position detection Thomas 'PointedEars' Lahn <PointedEars@web.de> - 2013-05-28 00:00 +0200
                Re: Scroll position detection Stefan Weiss <krewecherl@gmail.com> - 2013-05-28 02:30 +0200
      Re: Scroll position detection Denis McMahon <denismfmcmahon@gmail.com> - 2013-05-27 10:16 +0000
        Re: Scroll position detection Joao Rodrigues <groups_jr-1@yahoo.com.br> - 2013-05-27 09:45 -0300
          Re: Scroll position detection Denis McMahon <denismfmcmahon@gmail.com> - 2013-05-27 21:24 +0000

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