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Re: Scroll position detection

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Joao Rodrigues wrote:

> On 27/05/2013 11:45, Thomas 'PointedEars' Lahn wrote:
>> Joao Rodrigues wrote:
>>> On 27/05/2013 09:37, Denis McMahon wrote:
>>>> On Mon, 27 May 2013 09:33:54 -0300, Joao Rodrigues wrote:
>>>>> On 27/05/2013 06:48, Thomas 'PointedEars' Lahn wrote:
>>>>>> Joao Rodrigues wrote:
>>>>>>> The W3C standard is pageYOffset:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> When will you ever learn?
>>>>>>
>>>>>> | W3C Working Draft 4 August 2011 |
>>>>>
>>>>> So?
>>>>
>>>> Do you not understand the difference between a standard and a working
>>>> draft?
>>>
>>> Of course, I do! The fact is *all* browsers (even IE9 / 10 !!!) are
>>> compatible with pageY[X]Offset nowadays. So there's no plausible reason
>>> to not use these properties nowadays.
>>
>> Red herring.  You have claimed it would be “the W3C standard”; it is not.
> 
> You insist in answering a fallacy with another.

There is no fallacy on my part; you claimed something that I have proven 
wrong.  You should learn to live with that, and in the future be slower to 
make claims that you are not able to substantiate.

> And you are nit-picking, 

No, I have made your false premise obvious (to you).  This is important 
because /ex falso quodlibet/ (“from a false statement *anything* – right 
*and* wrong – can be deduced”) applies.

> as you usually do,

/Argumentum ad hominem/, and /ad populum/.  I would strongly suggest instead 
that you go quiet when you are out of sound arguments.

> on some trivial aspect

It was you who claimed that it was “the W3C standard”.  It is _not_ trivial 
that you are wrong, because W3C standards/Recommendations have significance 
to developers: It usually means that there are at least two interoperable 
implementations of the specified feature.  (If only you knew what you are 
talking about.)

> of one's post

It has been claimed by at least two people, and proved by at least one 
person (me), that *you* are wrong.  Live with it.

> instead of giving a real solution to the OP.

This is not a support forum.  It is a discussion forum.  You have argued 
something based on a false premise.  That premise has been discussed, and 
proven wrong, so that it can be safely ignored.

> I don't know what you do for living, but it is obvious that you have too
> much time in your hands to spend all day long trying to prove you are
> always right. Do your boss know about it?

Argumentum ad hominem again.  You should be ashamed of yourself that you 
resort to such low blows.

> Okay, only W3C's Recommendations are the "web standards".

Finally he can see, and it only took him … a few years? :->

> But tell me: is there any reason to not test for pageYOffset support first
> in the OP's code?

I will not waste more time to consider that question – yet another strawman 
argument – because of your anti-social behavior and because I have never 
claimed that there was such a reason in the first place.  It is only you who 
has (intentionally?) misinterpreted my comment.  May you die in ignorance.

Score adjusted

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    Re: Scroll position detection Tuxedo <tuxedo@mailinator.com> - 2013-05-25 16:02 +0200
    Re: Scroll position detection Joao Rodrigues <groups_jr-1@yahoo.com.br> - 2013-05-27 01:07 -0300
      Re: Scroll position detection Thomas 'PointedEars' Lahn <PointedEars@web.de> - 2013-05-27 11:48 +0200
        Re: Scroll position detection Joao Rodrigues <groups_jr-1@yahoo.com.br> - 2013-05-27 09:33 -0300
          Re: Scroll position detection Thomas 'PointedEars' Lahn <PointedEars@web.de> - 2013-05-27 14:39 +0200
            Re: Scroll position detection Joao Rodrigues <groups_jr-1@yahoo.com.br> - 2013-05-27 11:33 -0300
              Re: Scroll position detection Thomas 'PointedEars' Lahn <PointedEars@web.de> - 2013-05-27 16:42 +0200
          Re: Scroll position detection Denis McMahon <denismfmcmahon@gmail.com> - 2013-05-27 12:37 +0000
            Re: Scroll position detection Joao Rodrigues <groups_jr-1@yahoo.com.br> - 2013-05-27 09:57 -0300
              Re: Scroll position detection Thomas 'PointedEars' Lahn <PointedEars@web.de> - 2013-05-27 16:45 +0200
                Re: Scroll position detection Joao Rodrigues <groups_jr-1@yahoo.com.br> - 2013-05-27 11:58 -0300
                Re: Scroll position detection Thomas 'PointedEars' Lahn <PointedEars@web.de> - 2013-05-27 17:27 +0200
                Re: Scroll position detection Joao Rodrigues <groups_jr-1@yahoo.com.br> - 2013-05-27 13:12 -0300
                Re: Scroll position detection Thomas 'PointedEars' Lahn <PointedEars@web.de> - 2013-05-27 19:41 +0200
                Re: Scroll position detection Joao Rodrigues <groups_jr-1@yahoo.com.br> - 2013-05-27 15:24 -0300
                Re: Scroll position detection Thomas 'PointedEars' Lahn <PointedEars@web.de> - 2013-05-27 21:10 +0200
                Re: Scroll position detection Joao Rodrigues <groups_jr-1@yahoo.com.br> - 2013-05-27 18:35 -0300
                Re: Scroll position detection Thomas 'PointedEars' Lahn <PointedEars@web.de> - 2013-05-28 00:00 +0200
                Re: Scroll position detection Stefan Weiss <krewecherl@gmail.com> - 2013-05-28 02:30 +0200
      Re: Scroll position detection Denis McMahon <denismfmcmahon@gmail.com> - 2013-05-27 10:16 +0000
        Re: Scroll position detection Joao Rodrigues <groups_jr-1@yahoo.com.br> - 2013-05-27 09:45 -0300
          Re: Scroll position detection Denis McMahon <denismfmcmahon@gmail.com> - 2013-05-27 21:24 +0000

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