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Re: Script in <a > tag in IE

From Cezary Tomczyk <cezary.tomczyk@gmail.com>
Newsgroups comp.lang.javascript
Subject Re: Script in <a > tag in IE
Date 2013-02-10 01:43 +0100
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W dniu 2013-02-10 01:27, Thomas 'PointedEars' Lahn pisze:
> Cezary Tomczyk wrote:
>
>> W dniu 2013-02-10 01:07, Thomas 'PointedEars' Lahn pisze:
>>> Cezary Tomczyk wrote:
>> [...]
>>>>>> 1. Don't mix behaviours with logic. Move "onclick" outside of element
>>>>>> <a>.
>>>>>
>>>>> You have not said why.  I think there is no good reason why.  That
>>>>> script code here is short enough so that it is maintainable when in an
>>>>> event handler attribute value, and it is only needed when that
>>>>> particular “a”
>>>>> element is needed.  Loading it always would be a waste of resources.
>>>>
>>>> I am referring to:
>>>>
>>>> *
> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Unobtrusive_JavaScript#Separation_of_behavior_from_markup
>>>> *
> http://www.w3.org/wiki/The_principles_of_unobtrusive_JavaScript#Separation_of_structure_and_behaviour
>>>>
>>>> There is a lot of materials in internet about (let's use some keywords)
>>>> "separate behavior content javascript".
>>>>
>>>> Plus ( from my memory :-) ):
>>>>
>>>> * HTML files are bigger by using inline events and are not cached, while
>>>> JavaScript files can be cached by browsers
>>>
>>> Utter nonsense, all of the above.
>>
>> You have not said why.
>
> True, because we have been over this ad nauseam here already.

Hm, it would maybe good to collect all results of previous discussions 
somewhere in FAQ place, you know. I know that writing the same things 
over and over again is a maybe little bit waste of time.

But on the other hand answer like "Utter nonsense, all of the above." 
doesn't contains useful informations. Just make more confuses.

>>>>>> A good example was provided by Thomas Lahn (he's second example).
>>>>> Which “second example” are you referring to?
>>>>
>>>> [...]
>>>>          a.onclick = function () {
>>>>            addAttachments();
>>>>            return false;
>>>>          };
>>>> [...]
>>>>
>>>> which means that attaching method to event could be done, for example,
>>>> in that way. Not by using inline events.
>>> This code is part of an example in which the “a” element is created
>>> dynamically.  It has nothing to do with some misguided idea of
>>> “Unobtrusive JavaScript”.
>>
>> The code contains an fragment of adding event and method. That part I
>> wanted to cite as an example of way how to add events and methods in a
>> proper way. Not by inline events.
>
> My example has nothing to do with that mindbogglingly stupid approach.
> Do not cite it as an example of that.

As you wish.

Could be written like this:

var doAction = function () {
     addAttachments();
     return false;
};

var m = function () {
    var a = document.getElementById('mylinkelement');
    a.onclick = doAction;
};

m();

But let's leave it as is and close this case.

>> Also, I provided links that contains explanations "why not inline events".
>> You do not have to agree with them.
>
> I do not, because they are utter nonsense.

Without any evidences I can not say that you have right. Anyway, let's 
leave it as is.

-- 
Cezary Tomczyk
http://www.ctomczyk.pl/

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          Re: Script in <a  > tag in IE Tim Streater <timstreater@greenbee.net> - 2013-02-08 15:41 +0000
  Re: Script in <a  > tag in IE Thomas 'PointedEars' Lahn <PointedEars@web.de> - 2013-02-07 21:02 +0100
    Re: Script in <a  > tag in IE Eric Bednarz <bednarz@fahr-zur-hoelle.org> - 2013-02-09 00:19 +0100
      Re: Script in <a  > tag in IE Eric Bednarz <bednarz@fahr-zur-hoelle.org> - 2013-02-09 00:25 +0100
      Re: Script in <a  > tag in IE Thomas 'PointedEars' Lahn <PointedEars@web.de> - 2013-02-09 14:35 +0100
        Re: Script in <a  > tag in IE Eric Bednarz <bednarz@fahr-zur-hoelle.org> - 2013-02-09 22:27 +0100
  Re: Script in <a  > tag in IE Cezary Tomczyk <cezary.tomczyk@gmail.com> - 2013-02-09 20:33 +0100
    Re: Script in <a  > tag in IE Thomas 'PointedEars' Lahn <PointedEars@web.de> - 2013-02-10 00:08 +0100
      Re: Script in <a  > tag in IE Cezary Tomczyk <cezary.tomczyk@gmail.com> - 2013-02-10 00:52 +0100
        Re: Script in <a  > tag in IE Thomas 'PointedEars' Lahn <PointedEars@web.de> - 2013-02-10 01:07 +0100
          Re: Script in <a  > tag in IE Cezary Tomczyk <cezary.tomczyk@gmail.com> - 2013-02-10 01:20 +0100
            Re: Script in <a  > tag in IE Thomas 'PointedEars' Lahn <PointedEars@web.de> - 2013-02-10 01:27 +0100
              Re: Script in <a  > tag in IE Cezary Tomczyk <cezary.tomczyk@gmail.com> - 2013-02-10 01:43 +0100
                Re: Script in <a  > tag in IE Thomas 'PointedEars' Lahn <PointedEars@web.de> - 2013-02-10 13:55 +0100
                Re: Script in <a  > tag in IE Cezary Tomczyk <cezary.tomczyk@gmail.com> - 2013-02-10 20:38 +0100
                Re: Script in <a  > tag in IE Thomas 'PointedEars' Lahn <PointedEars@web.de> - 2013-02-10 21:28 +0100
                Re: Script in <a  > tag in IE Thomas 'PointedEars' Lahn <PointedEars@web.de> - 2013-02-10 21:37 +0100
                Re: Script in <a  > tag in IE Cezary Tomczyk <cezary.tomczyk@gmail.com> - 2013-02-10 22:56 +0100
                Re: Script in <a  > tag in IE Eric Bednarz <bednarz@fahr-zur-hoelle.org> - 2013-02-11 00:09 +0100
                Re: Script in <a  > tag in IE Eric Bednarz <bednarz@fahr-zur-hoelle.org> - 2013-02-11 00:30 +0100
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                Re: Script in <a  > tag in IE Thomas 'PointedEars' Lahn <PointedEars@web.de> - 2013-02-11 01:02 +0100
                Re: Script in <a  > tag in IE Eric Bednarz <bednarz@fahr-zur-hoelle.org> - 2013-02-11 01:16 +0100
                Re: Script in <a  > tag in IE Thomas 'PointedEars' Lahn <PointedEars@web.de> - 2013-02-11 01:49 +0100
                Re: Script in <a  > tag in IE Eric Bednarz <bednarz@fahr-zur-hoelle.org> - 2013-02-11 17:59 +0100
                Re: Script in <a  > tag in IE Thomas 'PointedEars' Lahn <PointedEars@web.de> - 2013-02-11 18:19 +0100
                Re: Script in <a > tag in IE Scott Sauyet <scott.sauyet@gmail.com> - 2013-02-11 13:03 -0800
                Re: Script in <a > tag in IE Thomas 'PointedEars' Lahn <PointedEars@web.de> - 2013-02-11 22:09 +0100
                Re: Script in <a > tag in IE Scott Sauyet <scott.sauyet@gmail.com> - 2013-02-11 13:59 -0800
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