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Re: ANN: Dogelog: We Have Liftoff, We Have Liftoff

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Subject Re: ANN: Dogelog: We Have Liftoff, We Have Liftoff
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Michael Haufe (TNO):

> On Wednesday, May 26, 2021 at 8:56:59 AM UTC-5, Jon Ribbens wrote:
>> [...]
>> Those articles seem deeply confused, especially the first, which says: 
>>
>> This might be because typography is so deeply rooted in the 
>> centuries-old history of typesetting. The concept of having “fluid” 
>> anything is often at odds with this tradition. In print, dimensions 
>> have always been fixed, but they don’t need to be on the web. That’s 
>> why I think fluid typography is a perfect match for the web. It’s a 
>> different approach for a completely different medium. 
>>
>> Using 'viewport width' for the font size *isn't* fluid, it's the 
>> exact opposite. It's paper-based thinking in a paperless world. 
>> It means the content doesn't format itself appropriately for the 
>> page, it just shrinks and expands like a photocopier on 'enlarge' 
>> mode. 
> 
> Given that the common practice is to use breakpoints, are those not the web equivalent of paper based thinking? 

No.

Breakpoints are usally only based on the *widht* of a viewport and used
to decide wether there is enough room for two or more columns.

For the mobile version one would only display one column since a
viewport which is only 40em wide may not provide enough room for content
*and* a side bar. On the other hand a desktop viewport with 60em or more
there provides enough space for a 40em wide content area and a 20em wide
sidebar.

But in both cases I would never try to connect the font size to the
viewport width or height. I don't want to get text on a mobile device
way smaller just because the viewport is smaller. Also I want to see
*more* text on a desktop and not *bigger* text. Good responsive layout
will use a *different* layout which fits the smaller viewport and not
just scale everything to become smaller.


-- 
Arno Welzel
https://arnowelzel.de

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Re: ANN: Dogelog: We Have Liftoff, We Have Liftoff "Michael Haufe (TNO)" <tno@thenewobjective.com> - 2021-05-24 19:25 -0700
  Re: ANN: Dogelog: We Have Liftoff, We Have Liftoff Mostowski Collapse <janburse@fastmail.fm> - 2021-05-25 09:34 +0200
    Re: ANN: Dogelog: We Have Liftoff, We Have Liftoff "Michael Haufe (TNO)" <tno@thenewobjective.com> - 2021-05-25 06:11 -0700
      Re: ANN: Dogelog: We Have Liftoff, We Have Liftoff Mostowski Collapse <janburse@fastmail.fm> - 2021-05-25 18:35 +0200
        Re: ANN: Dogelog: We Have Liftoff, We Have Liftoff "Michael Haufe (TNO)" <tno@thenewobjective.com> - 2021-05-25 11:06 -0700
          Re: ANN: Dogelog: We Have Liftoff, We Have Liftoff Mostowski Collapse <janburse@fastmail.fm> - 2021-05-25 20:28 +0200
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              Re: ANN: Dogelog: We Have Liftoff, We Have Liftoff "Michael Haufe (TNO)" <tno@thenewobjective.com> - 2021-05-25 11:39 -0700
              Re: ANN: Dogelog: We Have Liftoff, We Have Liftoff "Michael Haufe (TNO)" <tno@thenewobjective.com> - 2021-05-25 11:38 -0700
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                Re: ANN: Dogelog: We Have Liftoff, We Have Liftoff Jon Ribbens <jon+usenet@unequivocal.eu> - 2021-05-25 19:42 +0000
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                Re: ANN: Dogelog: We Have Liftoff, We Have Liftoff Mostowski Collapse <janburse@fastmail.fm> - 2021-05-25 22:27 +0200
                Re: ANN: Dogelog: We Have Liftoff, We Have Liftoff Mostowski Collapse <janburse@fastmail.fm> - 2021-05-25 22:01 +0200
                Re: ANN: Dogelog: We Have Liftoff, We Have Liftoff Arno Welzel <usenet@arnowelzel.de> - 2021-06-13 17:53 +0200
                Re: ANN: Dogelog: We Have Liftoff, We Have Liftoff "Michael Haufe (TNO)" <tno@thenewobjective.com> - 2021-05-25 11:51 -0700
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                Re: ANN: Dogelog: We Have Liftoff, We Have Liftoff "Mark-" <nospam@mapson.xyz> - 2021-05-26 01:11 +0000
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                Re: ANN: Dogelog: We Have Liftoff, We Have Liftoff Arno Welzel <usenet@arnowelzel.de> - 2021-06-13 18:06 +0200
                Re: ANN: Dogelog: We Have Liftoff, We Have Liftoff "Michael Haufe (TNO)" <tno@thenewobjective.com> - 2021-05-26 06:14 -0700
                Re: ANN: Dogelog: We Have Liftoff, We Have Liftoff Jon Ribbens <jon+usenet@unequivocal.eu> - 2021-05-26 13:21 +0000
                Re: ANN: Dogelog: We Have Liftoff, We Have Liftoff "Michael Haufe (TNO)" <tno@thenewobjective.com> - 2021-05-26 06:38 -0700
                Re: ANN: Dogelog: We Have Liftoff, We Have Liftoff Jon Ribbens <jon+usenet@unequivocal.eu> - 2021-05-26 13:56 +0000
                Re: ANN: Dogelog: We Have Liftoff, We Have Liftoff "Michael Haufe (TNO)" <tno@thenewobjective.com> - 2021-05-26 07:08 -0700
                Re: ANN: Dogelog: We Have Liftoff, We Have Liftoff Jon Ribbens <jon+usenet@unequivocal.eu> - 2021-05-26 14:15 +0000
                Re: ANN: Dogelog: We Have Liftoff, We Have Liftoff "Michael Haufe (TNO)" <tno@thenewobjective.com> - 2021-05-26 07:34 -0700
                Re: ANN: Dogelog: We Have Liftoff, We Have Liftoff Jon Ribbens <jon+usenet@unequivocal.eu> - 2021-05-26 16:00 +0000
                Re: ANN: Dogelog: We Have Liftoff, We Have Liftoff "Michael Haufe (TNO)" <tno@thenewobjective.com> - 2021-05-26 09:50 -0700
                Re: ANN: Dogelog: We Have Liftoff, We Have Liftoff Jon Ribbens <jon+usenet@unequivocal.eu> - 2021-05-26 19:12 +0000
                Re: ANN: Dogelog: We Have Liftoff, We Have Liftoff Arno Welzel <usenet@arnowelzel.de> - 2021-06-13 18:31 +0200
                Re: ANN: Dogelog: We Have Liftoff, We Have Liftoff Arno Welzel <usenet@arnowelzel.de> - 2021-06-13 18:25 +0200
                Re: ANN: Dogelog: We Have Liftoff, We Have Liftoff Arno Welzel <usenet@arnowelzel.de> - 2021-06-13 18:18 +0200
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                Re: ANN: Dogelog: We Have Liftoff, We Have Liftoff Arno Welzel <usenet@arnowelzel.de> - 2021-06-13 17:55 +0200
                Re: ANN: Dogelog: We Have Liftoff, We Have Liftoff "Michael Haufe (TNO)" <tno@thenewobjective.com> - 2021-06-13 10:03 -0700
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