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Re: Object values (continued)

Newsgroups comp.lang.javascript
Date 2020-03-24 11:03 -0700
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Subject Re: Object values (continued)
From Julio Di Egidio <julio@diegidio.name>

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On Tuesday, 24 March 2020 15:43:14 UTC+1, Silvio wrote:
> On 3/24/20 3:24 PM, John G Harris wrote:
> > On Tue, 24 Mar 2020 01:18:18 +0100, Silvio wrote:
> > > On 3/23/20 7:14 PM, John G Harris wrote:
<snip>
> > The Wikipedia authors disagree with you. And so do I.
> 
> The Wikipedia page lacks any distinction between the concept of a 
> variable and its value. That requires the introduction of the 
> nonsensical "Call by sharing" concept. The section with that title is 
> complete poppycock. But if you take Wikipedia as the authoritative 
> definition of programming concepts than we can keep this very short.

Agreed, in fact I'd say at least 80% of that article is poppycock, indeed
conflating semantics with implementation all over the place, still missing
the specificity of lexical reduction in functional languages altogether...

Julio

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Object values  (continued) John G Harris <niam@jghnorth.org.uk.invalid> - 2020-03-16 14:34 +0000
  Re: Object values  (continued) Jon Ribbens <jon+usenet@unequivocal.eu> - 2020-03-16 14:52 +0000
    Re: Object values  (continued) John G Harris <niam@jghnorth.org.uk.invalid> - 2020-03-16 18:19 +0000
      Re: Object values  (continued) Jon Ribbens <jon+usenet@unequivocal.eu> - 2020-03-16 20:06 +0000
        Re: Object values  (continued) John G Harris <niam@jghnorth.org.uk.invalid> - 2020-03-17 19:01 +0000
          Re: Object values  (continued) Jon Ribbens <jon+usenet@unequivocal.eu> - 2020-03-17 19:55 +0000
            Re: Object values  (continued) John G Harris <niam@jghnorth.org.uk.invalid> - 2020-03-18 17:29 +0000
  Re: Object values  (continued) JJ <jj4public@vfemail.net> - 2020-03-17 12:48 +0700
    Re: Object values  (continued) Thomas 'PointedEars' Lahn <PointedEars@web.de> - 2020-03-17 17:51 +0100
      Re: Object values  (continued) John G Harris <niam@jghnorth.org.uk.invalid> - 2020-03-17 19:03 +0000
        Re: Object values (continued) Andrew Poulos <ap_prog@hotmail.com> - 2020-03-18 07:20 +1100
          Re: Object values (continued) John G Harris <niam@jghnorth.org.uk.invalid> - 2020-03-18 17:29 +0000
            Re: Object values (continued) Andrew Poulos <ap_prog@hotmail.com> - 2020-03-19 14:21 +1100
              Re: Object values (continued) John G Harris <niam@jghnorth.org.uk.invalid> - 2020-03-19 11:12 +0000
                Re: Object values (continued) Andrew Poulos <ap_prog@hotmail.com> - 2020-03-20 14:33 +1100
                Re: Object values (continued) John G Harris <niam@jghnorth.org.uk.invalid> - 2020-03-20 09:21 +0000
                Re: Object values (continued) Andrew Poulos <ap_prog@hotmail.com> - 2020-03-21 09:56 +1100
                Re: Object values (continued) John G Harris <niam@jghnorth.org.uk.invalid> - 2020-03-21 11:18 +0000
                Re: Object values (continued) Andrew Poulos <ap_prog@hotmail.com> - 2020-03-22 08:45 +1100
                Re: Object values (continued) John G Harris <niam@jghnorth.org.uk.invalid> - 2020-03-22 10:10 +0000
                Re: Object values (continued) Andrew Poulos <ap_prog@hotmail.com> - 2020-03-23 07:44 +1100
    Re: Object values  (continued) John G Harris <niam@jghnorth.org.uk.invalid> - 2020-03-17 19:09 +0000
      Re: Object values (continued) Richard Damon <Richard@Damon-Family.org> - 2020-03-17 16:21 -0400
        Re: Object values (continued) Thomas 'PointedEars' Lahn <PointedEars@web.de> - 2020-03-17 22:57 +0100
  Re: Object values  (continued) Julio Di Egidio <julio@diegidio.name> - 2020-03-19 05:32 -0700
    Re: Object values (continued) Silvio <silvio@internet.com> - 2020-03-19 15:26 +0100
      Re: Object values (continued) John G Harris <niam@jghnorth.org.uk.invalid> - 2020-03-19 18:16 +0000
    Re: Object values  (continued) John G Harris <niam@jghnorth.org.uk.invalid> - 2020-03-19 18:15 +0000
      Re: Object values  (continued) Julio Di Egidio <julio@diegidio.name> - 2020-03-19 11:54 -0700
        Re: Object values  (continued) John G Harris <niam@jghnorth.org.uk.invalid> - 2020-03-20 09:11 +0000
          Re: Object values  (continued) John G Harris <niam@jghnorth.org.uk.invalid> - 2020-03-27 15:35 +0000
            Re: Object values  (continued) Julio Di Egidio <julio@diegidio.name> - 2020-03-27 09:59 -0700
              Re: Object values  (continued) John G Harris <niam@jghnorth.org.uk.invalid> - 2020-03-28 14:09 +0000
                Re: Object values (continued) Andrew Poulos <ap_prog@hotmail.com> - 2020-03-29 14:18 +1100
                Re: Object values (continued) John G Harris <niam@jghnorth.org.uk.invalid> - 2020-03-29 10:40 +0100
                Re: Object values (continued) Julio Di Egidio <julio@diegidio.name> - 2020-03-29 04:41 -0700
    Re: Object values  (continued) John G Harris <niam@jghnorth.org.uk.invalid> - 2020-03-21 14:12 +0000
      Re: Object values  (continued) "Evertjan." <exxjxw.hannivoort@inter.nl.net> - 2020-03-21 19:45 +0100
        Re: Object values  (continued) John G Harris <niam@jghnorth.org.uk.invalid> - 2020-03-22 10:30 +0000
          Re: Object values  (continued) "Evertjan." <exxjxw.hannivoort@inter.nl.net> - 2020-03-22 23:30 +0100
            Re: Object values  (continued) John G Harris <niam@jghnorth.org.uk.invalid> - 2020-03-23 09:44 +0000
              Re: Object values  (continued) "Evertjan." <exxjxw.hannivoort@inter.nl.net> - 2020-03-23 11:19 +0100
                Re: Object values  (continued) Julio Di Egidio <julio@diegidio.name> - 2020-03-23 05:00 -0700
                Re: Object values  (continued) John G Harris <niam@jghnorth.org.uk.invalid> - 2020-03-23 18:05 +0000
                Re: Object values  (continued) Julio Di Egidio <julio@diegidio.name> - 2020-03-23 11:50 -0700
                Re: Object values  (continued) John G Harris <niam@jghnorth.org.uk.invalid> - 2020-03-23 19:34 +0000
                Re: Object values  (continued) John G Harris <niam@jghnorth.org.uk.invalid> - 2020-03-23 18:14 +0000
                Re: Object values  (continued) "Evertjan." <exxjxw.hannivoort@inter.nl.net> - 2020-03-23 22:21 +0100
                Re: Object values  (continued) John G Harris <niam@jghnorth.org.uk.invalid> - 2020-03-24 14:09 +0000
                Re: Object values  (continued) "Evertjan." <exxjxw.hannivoort@inter.nl.net> - 2020-03-25 00:01 +0100
                Re: Object values (continued) Silvio <silvio@internet.com> - 2020-03-24 01:18 +0100
                Re: Object values (continued) John G Harris <niam@jghnorth.org.uk.invalid> - 2020-03-24 14:24 +0000
                Re: Object values (continued) Silvio <silvio@internet.com> - 2020-03-24 15:43 +0100
                Re: Object values (continued) Julio Di Egidio <julio@diegidio.name> - 2020-03-24 11:03 -0700
                Re: Object values (continued) John G Harris <niam@jghnorth.org.uk.invalid> - 2020-03-24 18:23 +0000
                Re: Object values (continued) Silvio <silvio@internet.com> - 2020-03-24 22:19 +0100
                Re: Object values (continued) John G Harris <niam@jghnorth.org.uk.invalid> - 2020-03-25 16:34 +0000
                Re: Object values (continued) "Evertjan." <exxjxw.hannivoort@inter.nl.net> - 2020-03-25 23:17 +0100
                Re: Object values (continued) Silvio <silvio@internet.com> - 2020-03-26 01:27 +0100
                Re: Object values (continued) Andrew Poulos <ap_prog@hotmail.com> - 2020-03-26 18:58 +1100
                Re: Object values (continued) Ben Bacarisse <ben.usenet@bsb.me.uk> - 2020-03-26 10:43 +0000
                Re: Object values (continued) Silvio <silvio@internet.com> - 2020-03-26 12:22 +0100
                Re: Object values (continued) "Michael Haufe (TNO)" <tno@thenewobjective.com> - 2020-03-26 10:08 -0700
                Re: Object values (continued) Silvio <silvio@internet.com> - 2020-03-26 18:29 +0100
                Re: Object values (continued) "Michael Haufe (TNO)" <tno@thenewobjective.com> - 2020-03-26 14:17 -0700
                Re: Object values (continued) Silvio <silvio@internet.com> - 2020-03-26 23:37 +0100
                Re: Object values (continued) "Michael Haufe (TNO)" <tno@thenewobjective.com> - 2020-03-26 16:40 -0700
                Re: Object values (continued) Silvio <silvio@internet.com> - 2020-03-27 11:38 +0100
                Re: Object values (continued) John G Harris <niam@jghnorth.org.uk.invalid> - 2020-03-26 18:11 +0000
                Re: Object values (continued) Silvio <silvio@internet.com> - 2020-03-26 19:41 +0100
                Re: Object values (continued) "Mark-" <nospam@mapson.xyz> - 2020-03-25 00:00 +0000
                Re: Object values (continued) John G Harris <niam@jghnorth.org.uk.invalid> - 2020-03-25 15:05 +0000
                Re: Object values (continued) "Mark-" <nospam@mapson.xyz> - 2020-03-25 20:12 +0000
                Re: Object values (continued) John G Harris <niam@jghnorth.org.uk.invalid> - 2020-03-26 18:09 +0000
                Re: Object values (continued) John G Harris <niam@jghnorth.org.uk.invalid> - 2020-03-25 19:39 +0000
            Re: Object values  (continued) "Michael Haufe (TNO)" <tno@thenewobjective.com> - 2020-03-23 18:49 -0700

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