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Re: Object values (continued)

Newsgroups comp.lang.javascript
Date 2020-03-19 11:54 -0700
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Subject Re: Object values (continued)
From Julio Di Egidio <julio@diegidio.name>

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On Thursday, 19 March 2020 19:15:11 UTC+1, John G Harris  wrote:
> On Thu, 19 Mar 2020 05:32:09 -0700 (PDT), Julio Di Egidio
> <julio@diegidio.name> wrote:
> >On Monday, 16 March 2020 15:34:55 UTC+1, John G Harris  wrote:
> >> Thomas Lahn wrote, of an array :
> >> > Technically it is not actually containing the objects, but just the 
> >> > references to them."
> >> 
> >> I really cannot understand why some people are fixated on references.
> >> There is a way to implement values that puts an object right inside
> >> the value field
> ><snipped nonsense>
> >
> >No, there isn't, indeed the one who is talking nonsense on the whole line,
> >essentially not knowing the exact meaning of these words and how they are
> >used in different contexts, is just you.
> >
> >The *value of* a variable or property can be either simple data (as in
> >primitive data) or complex data (as in objects or arrays).
> >
> >The value of a variable or property can be either directly the data
> >or it can be a reference to that data
> 
> At this point I have to stop reading what you've written. What the
> *STANDARD* for ECMAScript, the core language of each JavaScript, is
> this:
> 
> "An ECMAScript language type corresponds to values that are directly
> manipulated by an ECMAScript programmer using the ECMAScript language.
> The ECMAScript language types are Undefined, Null, Boolean, String,
> Symbol, Number, and Object. An ECMAScript language value is a value
> that is characterized by an ECMAScript language type."
> 
> I'll repeat part of that : "and Object".

That is the part that Thomas has explained and it does not contradict
anything that I have said: nor vice versa.

> Now please start talking about ECMAScript and stop talking about some
> other language you've used.

Why do you keep talking crap?  I can understand a Dunning-Kruger effect, but
not after being repeatedly warned.

*Troll alert*

Julio

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Object values  (continued) John G Harris <niam@jghnorth.org.uk.invalid> - 2020-03-16 14:34 +0000
  Re: Object values  (continued) Jon Ribbens <jon+usenet@unequivocal.eu> - 2020-03-16 14:52 +0000
    Re: Object values  (continued) John G Harris <niam@jghnorth.org.uk.invalid> - 2020-03-16 18:19 +0000
      Re: Object values  (continued) Jon Ribbens <jon+usenet@unequivocal.eu> - 2020-03-16 20:06 +0000
        Re: Object values  (continued) John G Harris <niam@jghnorth.org.uk.invalid> - 2020-03-17 19:01 +0000
          Re: Object values  (continued) Jon Ribbens <jon+usenet@unequivocal.eu> - 2020-03-17 19:55 +0000
            Re: Object values  (continued) John G Harris <niam@jghnorth.org.uk.invalid> - 2020-03-18 17:29 +0000
  Re: Object values  (continued) JJ <jj4public@vfemail.net> - 2020-03-17 12:48 +0700
    Re: Object values  (continued) Thomas 'PointedEars' Lahn <PointedEars@web.de> - 2020-03-17 17:51 +0100
      Re: Object values  (continued) John G Harris <niam@jghnorth.org.uk.invalid> - 2020-03-17 19:03 +0000
        Re: Object values (continued) Andrew Poulos <ap_prog@hotmail.com> - 2020-03-18 07:20 +1100
          Re: Object values (continued) John G Harris <niam@jghnorth.org.uk.invalid> - 2020-03-18 17:29 +0000
            Re: Object values (continued) Andrew Poulos <ap_prog@hotmail.com> - 2020-03-19 14:21 +1100
              Re: Object values (continued) John G Harris <niam@jghnorth.org.uk.invalid> - 2020-03-19 11:12 +0000
                Re: Object values (continued) Andrew Poulos <ap_prog@hotmail.com> - 2020-03-20 14:33 +1100
                Re: Object values (continued) John G Harris <niam@jghnorth.org.uk.invalid> - 2020-03-20 09:21 +0000
                Re: Object values (continued) Andrew Poulos <ap_prog@hotmail.com> - 2020-03-21 09:56 +1100
                Re: Object values (continued) John G Harris <niam@jghnorth.org.uk.invalid> - 2020-03-21 11:18 +0000
                Re: Object values (continued) Andrew Poulos <ap_prog@hotmail.com> - 2020-03-22 08:45 +1100
                Re: Object values (continued) John G Harris <niam@jghnorth.org.uk.invalid> - 2020-03-22 10:10 +0000
                Re: Object values (continued) Andrew Poulos <ap_prog@hotmail.com> - 2020-03-23 07:44 +1100
    Re: Object values  (continued) John G Harris <niam@jghnorth.org.uk.invalid> - 2020-03-17 19:09 +0000
      Re: Object values (continued) Richard Damon <Richard@Damon-Family.org> - 2020-03-17 16:21 -0400
        Re: Object values (continued) Thomas 'PointedEars' Lahn <PointedEars@web.de> - 2020-03-17 22:57 +0100
  Re: Object values  (continued) Julio Di Egidio <julio@diegidio.name> - 2020-03-19 05:32 -0700
    Re: Object values (continued) Silvio <silvio@internet.com> - 2020-03-19 15:26 +0100
      Re: Object values (continued) John G Harris <niam@jghnorth.org.uk.invalid> - 2020-03-19 18:16 +0000
    Re: Object values  (continued) John G Harris <niam@jghnorth.org.uk.invalid> - 2020-03-19 18:15 +0000
      Re: Object values  (continued) Julio Di Egidio <julio@diegidio.name> - 2020-03-19 11:54 -0700
        Re: Object values  (continued) John G Harris <niam@jghnorth.org.uk.invalid> - 2020-03-20 09:11 +0000
          Re: Object values  (continued) John G Harris <niam@jghnorth.org.uk.invalid> - 2020-03-27 15:35 +0000
            Re: Object values  (continued) Julio Di Egidio <julio@diegidio.name> - 2020-03-27 09:59 -0700
              Re: Object values  (continued) John G Harris <niam@jghnorth.org.uk.invalid> - 2020-03-28 14:09 +0000
                Re: Object values (continued) Andrew Poulos <ap_prog@hotmail.com> - 2020-03-29 14:18 +1100
                Re: Object values (continued) John G Harris <niam@jghnorth.org.uk.invalid> - 2020-03-29 10:40 +0100
                Re: Object values (continued) Julio Di Egidio <julio@diegidio.name> - 2020-03-29 04:41 -0700
    Re: Object values  (continued) John G Harris <niam@jghnorth.org.uk.invalid> - 2020-03-21 14:12 +0000
      Re: Object values  (continued) "Evertjan." <exxjxw.hannivoort@inter.nl.net> - 2020-03-21 19:45 +0100
        Re: Object values  (continued) John G Harris <niam@jghnorth.org.uk.invalid> - 2020-03-22 10:30 +0000
          Re: Object values  (continued) "Evertjan." <exxjxw.hannivoort@inter.nl.net> - 2020-03-22 23:30 +0100
            Re: Object values  (continued) John G Harris <niam@jghnorth.org.uk.invalid> - 2020-03-23 09:44 +0000
              Re: Object values  (continued) "Evertjan." <exxjxw.hannivoort@inter.nl.net> - 2020-03-23 11:19 +0100
                Re: Object values  (continued) Julio Di Egidio <julio@diegidio.name> - 2020-03-23 05:00 -0700
                Re: Object values  (continued) John G Harris <niam@jghnorth.org.uk.invalid> - 2020-03-23 18:05 +0000
                Re: Object values  (continued) Julio Di Egidio <julio@diegidio.name> - 2020-03-23 11:50 -0700
                Re: Object values  (continued) John G Harris <niam@jghnorth.org.uk.invalid> - 2020-03-23 19:34 +0000
                Re: Object values  (continued) John G Harris <niam@jghnorth.org.uk.invalid> - 2020-03-23 18:14 +0000
                Re: Object values  (continued) "Evertjan." <exxjxw.hannivoort@inter.nl.net> - 2020-03-23 22:21 +0100
                Re: Object values  (continued) John G Harris <niam@jghnorth.org.uk.invalid> - 2020-03-24 14:09 +0000
                Re: Object values  (continued) "Evertjan." <exxjxw.hannivoort@inter.nl.net> - 2020-03-25 00:01 +0100
                Re: Object values (continued) Silvio <silvio@internet.com> - 2020-03-24 01:18 +0100
                Re: Object values (continued) John G Harris <niam@jghnorth.org.uk.invalid> - 2020-03-24 14:24 +0000
                Re: Object values (continued) Silvio <silvio@internet.com> - 2020-03-24 15:43 +0100
                Re: Object values (continued) Julio Di Egidio <julio@diegidio.name> - 2020-03-24 11:03 -0700
                Re: Object values (continued) John G Harris <niam@jghnorth.org.uk.invalid> - 2020-03-24 18:23 +0000
                Re: Object values (continued) Silvio <silvio@internet.com> - 2020-03-24 22:19 +0100
                Re: Object values (continued) John G Harris <niam@jghnorth.org.uk.invalid> - 2020-03-25 16:34 +0000
                Re: Object values (continued) "Evertjan." <exxjxw.hannivoort@inter.nl.net> - 2020-03-25 23:17 +0100
                Re: Object values (continued) Silvio <silvio@internet.com> - 2020-03-26 01:27 +0100
                Re: Object values (continued) Andrew Poulos <ap_prog@hotmail.com> - 2020-03-26 18:58 +1100
                Re: Object values (continued) Ben Bacarisse <ben.usenet@bsb.me.uk> - 2020-03-26 10:43 +0000
                Re: Object values (continued) Silvio <silvio@internet.com> - 2020-03-26 12:22 +0100
                Re: Object values (continued) "Michael Haufe (TNO)" <tno@thenewobjective.com> - 2020-03-26 10:08 -0700
                Re: Object values (continued) Silvio <silvio@internet.com> - 2020-03-26 18:29 +0100
                Re: Object values (continued) "Michael Haufe (TNO)" <tno@thenewobjective.com> - 2020-03-26 14:17 -0700
                Re: Object values (continued) Silvio <silvio@internet.com> - 2020-03-26 23:37 +0100
                Re: Object values (continued) "Michael Haufe (TNO)" <tno@thenewobjective.com> - 2020-03-26 16:40 -0700
                Re: Object values (continued) Silvio <silvio@internet.com> - 2020-03-27 11:38 +0100
                Re: Object values (continued) John G Harris <niam@jghnorth.org.uk.invalid> - 2020-03-26 18:11 +0000
                Re: Object values (continued) Silvio <silvio@internet.com> - 2020-03-26 19:41 +0100
                Re: Object values (continued) "Mark-" <nospam@mapson.xyz> - 2020-03-25 00:00 +0000
                Re: Object values (continued) John G Harris <niam@jghnorth.org.uk.invalid> - 2020-03-25 15:05 +0000
                Re: Object values (continued) "Mark-" <nospam@mapson.xyz> - 2020-03-25 20:12 +0000
                Re: Object values (continued) John G Harris <niam@jghnorth.org.uk.invalid> - 2020-03-26 18:09 +0000
                Re: Object values (continued) John G Harris <niam@jghnorth.org.uk.invalid> - 2020-03-25 19:39 +0000
            Re: Object values  (continued) "Michael Haufe (TNO)" <tno@thenewobjective.com> - 2020-03-23 18:49 -0700

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