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Re: why the ! operator can be used to determine a string is null?

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Thomas 'PointedEars' Lahn <PointedEars@web.de> writes:

> Ben Bacarisse wrote:
>
>> Thomas 'PointedEars' Lahn <PointedEars@web.de> writes:
>>> Ben Bacarisse wrote:
>>>> Thomas 'PointedEars' Lahn <PointedEars@web.de> writes:
>>>>> Ben Bacarisse wrote:
>>>> <snip>
>>>>>> Further complicated by the fact that there is a character called null
>>>>>> (sometimes Null, Nul or NULL) so a string can "be null" in that it
>>>>>> contains just that character.
>>>>> As we are talking about ECMAScript, it is the Unicode character U+0000
>>>>> NULL (to my surprise, not “NUL” as in US-ASCII) whose standard
>>>>> representation is a boxed “NUL” (AFAIK, it is *never* called “null”,
>>>>> “Null” or “Nul”):
>>>> If you can find an original copy of the standard you'll see a table of
>>>> control characters that gives "Abbreviations" (though most are acronyms)
>>>> and, as you say, NUL is the abbreviation for the first one.  After that
>>>> table is an explanation that gives the name as "Null" and the
>>>> abbreviation as "Nul" (for some reason not in caps).
>>> *I have just cited* “an original copy of the standard”, so please cite
>>> evidence supporting your claims.
>> 
>> X3.4-1967 "The American Standard for Information Interchange". 
>
> We are not talking about *that* standard as that has nothing to do with 
> ECMAScript; we are talking about the *Unicode* character, therefore the 
> corresponding *Unicode* Standard.

I was.  The character called NULL in Unicode has a long history.  That
includes begin called NULL and Null in the X3.4-1963 table, NUL, Nul and
Null in the X3.4-1967, NUL, Nul and Null in the first ISO 646 version
(essentially X3.4-1967 re-badged), NUL and Null in RFC 20 (1969) and so
on and so on.  This long history is what causes the confusion which was
my only (rather minor) point.

And you were (talking about US-ASCII) too.  You said it is called NUL in
US-ASCII, but that is only the abbreviated name.  To see what the
character's name really is you must look at some reference document for
ASCII.

-- 
Ben.

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why the ! operator can be used to determine a string is null? Xue Feng <xf.lotus@yahoo.com> - 2017-08-08 23:43 +0800
  Re: why the ! operator can be used to determine a string is null? Robert Heller <heller@deepsoft.com> - 2017-08-08 11:16 -0500
  Re: why the ! operator can be used to determine a string is null? Jon Ribbens <jon+usenet@unequivocal.eu> - 2017-08-08 17:40 +0000
    Re: why the ! operator can be used to determine a string is null? Julio Di Egidio <julio@diegidio.name> - 2017-08-08 21:38 -0700
      Re: why the ! operator can be used to determine a string is null? John G Harris <niam@jghnorth.org.uk.invalid> - 2017-08-09 14:51 +0100
    Re: why the ! operator can be used to determine a string is null? Jon Ribbens <jon+usenet@unequivocal.eu> - 2017-08-09 11:01 +0000
      Re: why the ! operator can be used to determine a string is null? "Evertjan." <exxjxw.hannivoort@inter.nl.net> - 2017-08-09 16:17 +0200
        Re: why the ! operator can be used to determine a string is null? Ben Bacarisse <ben.usenet@bsb.me.uk> - 2017-08-09 16:14 +0100
          Re: why the ! operator can be used to determine a string is null? Julio Di Egidio <julio@diegidio.name> - 2017-08-09 10:25 -0700
            Re: why the ! operator can be used to determine a string is null? Ben Bacarisse <ben.usenet@bsb.me.uk> - 2017-08-09 21:04 +0100
              Re: why the ! operator can be used to determine a string is null? Julio Di Egidio <julio@diegidio.name> - 2017-08-09 13:11 -0700
                Re: why the ! operator can be used to determine a string is null? Ben Bacarisse <ben.usenet@bsb.me.uk> - 2017-08-10 00:59 +0100
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                Re: [ANN] Spam filter for Google Groups (was: why the ! operator can be used to determine a string is null?) Julio Di Egidio <julio@diegidio.name> - 2017-08-10 01:00 -0700
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                Re: why the ! operator can be used to determine a string is null? Julio Di Egidio <julio@diegidio.name> - 2017-08-10 00:56 -0700
          Re: why the ! operator can be used to determine a string is null? "Evertjan." <exxjxw.hannivoort@inter.nl.net> - 2017-08-09 22:01 +0200
            Re: why the ! operator can be used to determine a string is null? Ben Bacarisse <ben.usenet@bsb.me.uk> - 2017-08-09 23:35 +0100
              Re: why the ! operator can be used to determine a string is null? "Evertjan." <exxjxw.hannivoort@inter.nl.net> - 2017-08-10 10:05 +0200
                Re: why the ! operator can be used to determine a string is null? Ben Bacarisse <ben.usenet@bsb.me.uk> - 2017-08-10 15:08 +0100
                Re: why the ! operator can be used to determine a string is null? "Evertjan." <exxjxw.hannivoort@inter.nl.net> - 2017-08-10 16:42 +0200
          Re: why the ! operator can be used to determine a string is null? Thomas 'PointedEars' Lahn <PointedEars@web.de> - 2017-08-09 23:56 +0200
            Re: why the ! operator can be used to determine a string is null? Ben Bacarisse <ben.usenet@bsb.me.uk> - 2017-08-10 01:40 +0100
              Re: why the ! operator can be used to determine a string is null? Thomas 'PointedEars' Lahn <PointedEars@web.de> - 2017-08-10 03:44 +0200
                Re: why the ! operator can be used to determine a string is null? Ben Bacarisse <ben.usenet@bsb.me.uk> - 2017-08-10 03:20 +0100
                Re: why the ! operator can be used to determine a string is null? Thomas 'PointedEars' Lahn <PointedEars@web.de> - 2017-08-10 04:33 +0200
                Re: why the ! operator can be used to determine a string is null? Ben Bacarisse <ben.usenet@bsb.me.uk> - 2017-08-10 03:57 +0100
  Re: why the ! operator can be used to determine a string is null? Thomas 'PointedEars' Lahn <PointedEars@web.de> - 2017-08-08 23:20 +0200
    Re: why the ! operator can be used to determine a string is null? Julio Di Egidio <julio@diegidio.name> - 2017-08-08 21:20 -0700
      Re: why the ! operator can be used to determine a string is null? Cezary Tomczyk <cezary.tomczyk@gmail.com> - 2017-08-09 09:26 +0200
        Re: why the ! operator can be used to determine a string is null? Julio Di Egidio <julio@diegidio.name> - 2017-08-09 01:31 -0700
        Re: why the ! operator can be used to determine a string is null? Thomas 'PointedEars' Lahn <PointedEars@web.de> - 2017-08-09 11:32 +0200
          Re: why the ! operator can be used to determine a string is null? Cezary Tomczyk <cezary.tomczyk@gmail.com> - 2017-08-10 09:10 +0200
            Re: why the ! operator can be used to determine a string is null? Thomas 'PointedEars' Lahn <PointedEars@web.de> - 2017-08-10 14:51 +0200
              Re: why the ! operator can be used to determine a string is null? Tim Streater <timstreater@greenbee.net> - 2017-08-10 15:11 +0100
              Re: why the ! operator can be used to determine a string is null? Cezary Tomczyk <cezary.tomczyk@gmail.com> - 2017-08-10 18:52 +0200

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