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Re: Recording changes to an object

From Thomas 'PointedEars' Lahn <PointedEars@web.de>
Newsgroups comp.lang.javascript
Subject Re: Recording changes to an object
Date 2018-07-05 19:35 +0200
Organization PointedEars Software (PES)
Message-ID <58cd8c23-cf49-ea0d-2719-5b7d09bbafbe@PointedEars.de> (permalink)
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Michael Haufe (TNO) wrote:
> Thomas 'PointedEars' Lahn wrote:
>> Michael Haufe (TNO) wrote:
>>> and my response is why bother with the static one at all? What would
>>> that give you? It wouldn't have privileged access to the internals of
>>> the target. I don't see how Object.prototype.clone() could just be
>>> "syntactic sugar".
>> Again, that is _not_ what you argued before.
> 
> What is it you think I argued?

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| […] There is potentially, and probably, an associated state which is
| unobservable from outside the object (due to encapsulation). As such,
| Object.prototype.clone() is required instead of Object.clone(), otherwise
| you're simply making an "observable clone".


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Recording changes to an object Andrew Poulos <ap_prog@hotmail.com> - 2018-06-21 15:54 +1000
  Re: Recording changes to an object Julio Di Egidio <julio@diegidio.name> - 2018-06-21 01:47 -0700
  Re: Recording changes to an object Ben Bacarisse <ben.usenet@bsb.me.uk> - 2018-06-21 17:01 +0100
    Re: Recording changes to an object Julio Di Egidio <julio@diegidio.name> - 2018-06-21 09:48 -0700
      Re: Recording changes to an object John G Harris <niam@jghnorth.org.uk.invalid> - 2018-06-22 09:58 +0100
  Re: Recording changes to an object Thomas 'PointedEars' Lahn <PointedEars@web.de> - 2018-06-21 21:03 +0200
    Re: Recording changes to an object Julio Di Egidio <julio@diegidio.name> - 2018-06-21 16:25 -0700
    Re: Recording changes to an object Andrew Poulos <ap_prog@hotmail.com> - 2018-06-22 09:34 +1000
      Re: Recording changes to an object Julio Di Egidio <julio@diegidio.name> - 2018-06-21 17:02 -0700
        Re: Recording changes to an object Julio Di Egidio <julio@diegidio.name> - 2018-06-21 18:03 -0700
        Re: Recording changes to an object John G Harris <niam@jghnorth.org.uk.invalid> - 2018-06-22 10:06 +0100
          Re: Recording changes to an object Julio Di Egidio <julio@diegidio.name> - 2018-06-22 02:21 -0700
            Re: Recording changes to an object John G Harris <niam@jghnorth.org.uk.invalid> - 2018-06-22 18:31 +0100
              Re: Recording changes to an object Julio Di Egidio <julio@diegidio.name> - 2018-06-22 20:16 -0700
      Re: Recording changes to an object Thomas 'PointedEars' Lahn <PointedEars@web.de> - 2018-06-22 02:23 +0200
        Re: Recording changes to an object Julio Di Egidio <julio@diegidio.name> - 2018-06-21 17:31 -0700
      Re: Recording changes to an object Thomas 'PointedEars' Lahn <PointedEars@web.de> - 2018-06-22 02:55 +0200
        Re: Recording changes to an object Andrew Poulos <ap_prog@hotmail.com> - 2018-06-22 12:37 +1000
          Re: Recording changes to an object Julio Di Egidio <julio@diegidio.name> - 2018-06-22 02:23 -0700
            Re: Recording changes to an object Jake Jarvis <pig_in_shoes@yahoo.com> - 2018-06-22 14:35 +0200
              Re: Recording changes to an object Julio Di Egidio <julio@diegidio.name> - 2018-06-22 05:57 -0700
                Re: Recording changes to an object Mickey Finn <mfinn@gmail.com> - 2018-06-22 15:43 -0300
              Re: Recording changes to an object Thomas 'PointedEars' Lahn <PointedEars@web.de> - 2018-06-22 13:51 +0200
                Re: Recording changes to an object Julio Di Egidio <julio@diegidio.name> - 2018-06-22 06:04 -0700
                Re: Recording changes to an object John G Harris <niam@jghnorth.org.uk.invalid> - 2018-06-22 18:33 +0100
                Re: Recording changes to an object Thomas 'PointedEars' Lahn <PointedEars@web.de> - 2018-06-24 14:36 +0200
                Re: Recording changes to an object "Mark-" <nospam@mapson.xyz> - 2018-06-24 13:56 +0000
                Re: Recording changes to an object John G Harris <niam@jghnorth.org.uk.invalid> - 2018-06-25 10:06 +0100
                Re: Recording changes to an object Jonas Thörnvall <jonas.thornvall@gmail.com> - 2018-06-25 02:40 -0700
                Re: Recording changes to an object Jonas Thörnvall <jonas.thornvall@gmail.com> - 2018-06-25 02:47 -0700
                Re: Recording changes to an object Jonas Thörnvall <jonas.thornvall@gmail.com> - 2018-06-25 02:51 -0700
                Re: Recording changes to an object Jonas Thörnvall <jonas.thornvall@gmail.com> - 2018-06-25 02:54 -0700
                Re: Recording changes to an object Jonas Thörnvall <jonas.thornvall@gmail.com> - 2018-06-25 02:58 -0700
                Re: Recording changes to an object John G Harris <niam@jghnorth.org.uk.invalid> - 2018-06-25 19:26 +0100
                Re: Recording changes to an object Thomas 'PointedEars' Lahn <PointedEars@web.de> - 2018-06-30 19:47 +0200
                Re: Recording changes to an object John G Harris <niam@jghnorth.org.uk.invalid> - 2018-07-01 10:56 +0100
            Re: Recording changes to an object Andrew Poulos <ap_prog@hotmail.com> - 2018-06-23 17:19 +1000
              Re: Recording changes to an object Julio Di Egidio <julio@diegidio.name> - 2018-06-23 00:51 -0700
                Re: Recording changes to an object John G Harris <niam@jghnorth.org.uk.invalid> - 2018-06-23 11:27 +0100
                Re: Recording changes to an object Andrew Poulos <ap_prog@hotmail.com> - 2018-06-23 20:59 +1000
                Re: Recording changes to an object Julio Di Egidio <julio@diegidio.name> - 2018-06-23 05:51 -0700
    Re: Recording changes to an object Thomas 'PointedEars' Lahn <PointedEars@web.de> - 2018-06-30 19:43 +0200
      Re: Recording changes to an object Thomas 'PointedEars' Lahn <PointedEars@web.de> - 2018-07-01 15:22 +0200
        Re: Recording changes to an object Cezary Tomczyk <cezary.tomczyk@gmail.com> - 2018-07-02 16:29 +0200
          Cloning an object (was: Recording changes to an object) Thomas 'PointedEars' Lahn <PointedEars@web.de> - 2018-07-04 23:25 +0200
            Re: Cloning an object Cezary Tomczyk <cezary.tomczyk@gmail.com> - 2018-07-05 10:00 +0200
              Re: Cloning an object Thomas 'PointedEars' Lahn <PointedEars@web.de> - 2018-07-05 19:49 +0200
                Re: Cloning an object Cezary Tomczyk <cezary.tomczyk@gmail.com> - 2018-07-05 20:37 +0200
                Re: Cloning an object Thomas 'PointedEars' Lahn <PointedEars@web.de> - 2018-07-05 23:35 +0200
                Re: Cloning an object Cezary Tomczyk <cezary.tomczyk@gmail.com> - 2018-07-05 23:54 +0200
                Re: Cloning an object Thomas 'PointedEars' Lahn <PointedEars@web.de> - 2018-07-06 00:32 +0200
                Re: Cloning an object Thomas 'PointedEars' Lahn <PointedEars@web.de> - 2018-07-06 00:24 +0200
                Re: Cloning an object John G Harris <niam@jghnorth.org.uk.invalid> - 2018-07-06 18:48 +0100
                Re: Cloning an object Thomas 'PointedEars' Lahn <PointedEars@web.de> - 2018-07-06 23:51 +0200
                Re: Cloning an object John G Harris <niam@jghnorth.org.uk.invalid> - 2018-07-07 15:51 +0100
                Re: Cloning an object Julio Di Egidio <julio@diegidio.name> - 2018-07-07 08:39 -0700
                Re: Cloning an object John G Harris <niam@jghnorth.org.uk.invalid> - 2018-07-09 10:20 +0100
                Re: Cloning an object Julio Di Egidio <julio@diegidio.name> - 2018-07-09 02:35 -0700
                Re: Cloning an object Julio Di Egidio <julio@diegidio.name> - 2018-07-09 02:41 -0700
                Re: Cloning an object Thomas 'PointedEars' Lahn <PointedEars@web.de> - 2018-07-08 12:20 +0200
                Re: Cloning an object John G Harris <niam@jghnorth.org.uk.invalid> - 2018-07-08 14:38 +0100
                Re: Cloning an object Julio Di Egidio <julio@diegidio.name> - 2018-07-08 13:10 -0700
                Re: Cloning an object John G Harris <niam@jghnorth.org.uk.invalid> - 2018-07-09 09:48 +0100
                Re: Cloning an object Julio Di Egidio <julio@diegidio.name> - 2018-07-09 02:28 -0700
                Re: Cloning an object Julio Di Egidio <julio@diegidio.name> - 2018-07-09 02:38 -0700
                Re: Cloning an object John G Harris <niam@jghnorth.org.uk.invalid> - 2018-07-09 19:11 +0100
      Re: Recording changes to an object "Michael Haufe (TNO)" <tno@thenewobjective.com> - 2018-07-02 21:01 -0700
        Re: Recording changes to an object Thomas 'PointedEars' Lahn <PointedEars@web.de> - 2018-07-05 00:32 +0200
          Re: Recording changes to an object "Michael Haufe (TNO)" <tno@thenewobjective.com> - 2018-07-04 19:23 -0700
            Re: Recording changes to an object Thomas 'PointedEars' Lahn <PointedEars@web.de> - 2018-07-05 06:38 +0200
              Re: Recording changes to an object "Michael Haufe (TNO)" <tno@thenewobjective.com> - 2018-07-04 23:21 -0700
                Re: Recording changes to an object Thomas 'PointedEars' Lahn <PointedEars@web.de> - 2018-07-05 09:25 +0200
                Re: Recording changes to an object "Michael Haufe (TNO)" <tno@thenewobjective.com> - 2018-07-05 07:44 -0700
                Re: Recording changes to an object Thomas 'PointedEars' Lahn <PointedEars@web.de> - 2018-07-05 19:35 +0200
                Re: Recording changes to an object "Michael Haufe (TNO)" <tno@thenewobjective.com> - 2018-07-06 12:59 -0700
                Re: Recording changes to an object Thomas 'PointedEars' Lahn <PointedEars@web.de> - 2018-07-06 23:22 +0200
                Re: Recording changes to an object "Michael Haufe (TNO)" <tno@thenewobjective.com> - 2018-07-07 12:45 -0700
                Re: Recording changes to an object Thomas 'PointedEars' Lahn <PointedEars@web.de> - 2018-07-08 11:13 +0200
                Re: Recording changes to an object Julio Di Egidio <julio@diegidio.name> - 2018-07-08 05:03 -0700
                Re: Recording changes to an object "Michael Haufe (TNO)" <tno@thenewobjective.com> - 2018-07-08 13:42 -0700
                Re: Recording changes to an object Julio Di Egidio <julio@diegidio.name> - 2018-07-08 13:46 -0700
                Re: Recording changes to an object "Michael Haufe (TNO)" <tno@thenewobjective.com> - 2018-07-08 13:41 -0700
                Re: Recording changes to an object Thomas 'PointedEars' Lahn <PointedEars@web.de> - 2018-07-09 00:35 +0200
                Re: Recording changes to an object "Michael Haufe (TNO)" <tno@thenewobjective.com> - 2018-07-10 01:03 -0700
                Re: Recording changes to an object Thomas 'PointedEars' Lahn <PointedEars@web.de> - 2018-07-10 20:50 +0200
                Re: Recording changes to an object "Michael Haufe (TNO)" <tno@thenewobjective.com> - 2018-07-10 16:09 -0700
  Re: Recording changes to an object "Michael Haufe (TNO)" <tno@thenewobjective.com> - 2018-06-21 15:09 -0700
    Re: Recording changes to an object Julio Di Egidio <julio@diegidio.name> - 2018-06-21 16:30 -0700
      Re: Recording changes to an object "Michael Haufe (TNO)" <tno@thenewobjective.com> - 2018-06-21 16:57 -0700
        Re: Recording changes to an object Julio Di Egidio <julio@diegidio.name> - 2018-06-21 17:01 -0700

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