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Re: Trying to create array of object literals

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From Thomas 'PointedEars' Lahn <PointedEars@web.de>
Newsgroups comp.lang.javascript
Subject Re: Trying to create array of object literals
Date Wed, 18 Apr 2018 03:25:38 +0200
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Stefan Ram wrote:

> John G Harris <niam@jghnorth.org.uk.invalid> writes:
>> And what the ES language is is one that does not have programmable
>> pointers and does not have programmable references (for any reasonable
                              ^^^^^^^^^^^^
>> definition of 'reference').

By that statement, John G Harris has solidly *refuted* their own ridiculous 
claim.  Congratulations.

ECMAScript is not an actual programming language in the sense that you can 
write computer programs in it.  It is a standard for programming languages 
that requires implementation, and you can write computer programs in 
implementations of ECMAScript.  When we speak for brevity of ECMAScript as 
if it were a programming language (instead of a standard for them), we 
actually implicitly mean *strict* *implementations* of ECMAScript.
 
>       »A Reference is a resolved name or property binding.

Note the marked word.  This is _not_ what “reference” means when talking 
about ECMAScript *implementations*.

Instead, as the anti-socially address-munging John G Harris *knows*, but 
trollingly pretends not to know *every* *single* *time*, it means 
“reference” as in object-oriented programming languages in general, which
is related to garbage collection.

    [For those reasons and others, I have John G Harris in my killfile;
     I respond to his baits only occasionally, so that he cannot confuse
     beginners with his half-wit nonsense.]

After an object has been constructed, it can only be accessed by the program 
through a *reference* to it, by which we (reasonable people) simply mean
*“a conceptual entity that refers to something”*.

There can be multiple references (with the same value) referring to the same 
object.  An object can be garbage-collected (after a potential destructor 
has been called to release resources used by the object¹): the memory 
reserved for its data can be “freed”, to be reservable again for other 
data/objects, if there are no more references to it, because then the 
program cannot access it anymore anyway.  (This wording and similar ones can 
be found in every description of garbage collection.)

> [tl;dr]

_______
¹ ECMAScript has no built-in concept of a destructor (yet).  In ECMAScript
  implementations, a destructor to release resources has to be called
  explicitly, by the programmer.  However, many public APIs usable with
  ECMAScript implementations are usually designed so that resources are
  automatically released, e.g. the handles for “File”s are closed.
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  Re: Trying to create array of object literals Maik Koenig <usenetspam@maikkoenig.de> - 2018-04-12 21:47 +0200
  Re: Trying to create array of object literals Julio Di Egidio <julio@diegidio.name> - 2018-04-12 12:49 -0700
  Re: Trying to create array of object literals Thomas 'PointedEars' Lahn <PointedEars@web.de> - 2018-04-13 10:27 +0200
    Re: Trying to create array of object literals John G Harris <niam@jghnorth.org.uk.invalid> - 2018-04-13 10:57 +0100
      Re: Trying to create array of object literals Thomas 'PointedEars' Lahn <PointedEars@web.de> - 2018-04-13 23:38 +0200
        Re: Trying to create array of object literals John G Harris <niam@jghnorth.org.uk.invalid> - 2018-04-14 11:22 +0100
          Re: Trying to create array of object literals Julio Di Egidio <julio@diegidio.name> - 2018-04-14 07:25 -0700
            Re: Trying to create array of object literals Julio Di Egidio <julio@diegidio.name> - 2018-04-14 09:09 -0700
              Re: Trying to create array of object literals John G Harris <niam@jghnorth.org.uk.invalid> - 2018-04-16 09:43 +0100
                Re: Trying to create array of object literals Julio Di Egidio <julio@diegidio.name> - 2018-04-16 02:04 -0700
                Re: Trying to create array of object literals "Evertjan." <exxjxw.hannivoort@inter.nl.net> - 2018-04-16 11:23 +0200
                Re: Trying to create array of object literals John G Harris <niam@jghnorth.org.uk.invalid> - 2018-04-16 19:32 +0100
                Re: Trying to create array of object literals "Evertjan." <exxjxw.hannivoort@inter.nl.net> - 2018-04-17 23:37 +0200
                Re: Trying to create array of object literals John G Harris <niam@jghnorth.org.uk.invalid> - 2018-04-18 16:18 +0100
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                Re: Trying to create array of object literals John G Harris <niam@jghnorth.org.uk.invalid> - 2018-04-20 10:17 +0100
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                Re: Is JS a functional programming language? Thomas 'PointedEars' Lahn <PointedEars@web.de> - 2018-04-22 02:19 +0200
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                Re: Is JS a functional programming language? "Mark-" <nospam@mapson.xyz> - 2018-04-22 02:45 +0000
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                Re: Is JS a functional programming language? "Mark-" <nospam@mapson.xyz> - 2018-04-22 04:04 +0000
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              Re: Trying to create array of object literals Julio Di Egidio <julio@diegidio.name> - 2018-04-16 02:05 -0700
                Re: Trying to create array of object literals "Evertjan." <exxjxw.hannivoort@inter.nl.net> - 2018-04-16 11:27 +0200
                Re: Trying to create array of object literals Julio Di Egidio <julio@diegidio.name> - 2018-04-16 02:33 -0700
                Re: Trying to create array of object literals "Evertjan." <exxjxw.hannivoort@inter.nl.net> - 2018-04-16 14:03 +0200
                Re: Trying to create array of object literals John G Harris <niam@jghnorth.org.uk.invalid> - 2018-04-16 19:40 +0100
                Re: Trying to create array of object literals John G Harris <niam@jghnorth.org.uk.invalid> - 2018-04-17 09:45 +0100
                Re: Trying to create array of object literals Thomas 'PointedEars' Lahn <PointedEars@web.de> - 2018-04-18 03:25 +0200
                Re: Trying to create array of object literals John G Harris <niam@jghnorth.org.uk.invalid> - 2018-04-18 15:50 +0100
                Re: Trying to create array of object literals John G Harris <niam@jghnorth.org.uk.invalid> - 2018-04-18 16:08 +0100
                Re: Trying to create array of object literals Thomas 'PointedEars' Lahn <PointedEars@web.de> - 2018-04-19 03:34 +0200
                Re: Trying to create array of object literals John G Harris <niam@jghnorth.org.uk.invalid> - 2018-04-19 10:37 +0100
                Re: Trying to create array of object literals John G Harris <niam@jghnorth.org.uk.invalid> - 2018-04-19 19:02 +0100
                Re: Trying to create array of object literals Thomas 'PointedEars' Lahn <PointedEars@web.de> - 2018-04-19 03:25 +0200
                Re: Trying to create array of object literals John G Harris <niam@jghnorth.org.uk.invalid> - 2018-04-16 19:37 +0100
                Re: Trying to create array of object literals Julio Di Egidio <julio@diegidio.name> - 2018-04-16 11:48 -0700
                Re: Trying to create array of object literals John G Harris <niam@jghnorth.org.uk.invalid> - 2018-04-17 09:52 +0100
                Re: Trying to create array of object literals Julio Di Egidio <julio@diegidio.name> - 2018-04-17 03:22 -0700
                Re: Trying to create array of object literals John G Harris <niam@jghnorth.org.uk.invalid> - 2018-04-17 18:28 +0100
    Re: Trying to create array of object literals bit-naughty@hotmail.com - 2018-04-13 04:08 -0700

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