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| From | Thomas 'PointedEars' Lahn <PointedEars@web.de> |
|---|---|
| Newsgroups | comp.lang.javascript |
| Subject | Re: Trying to create array of object literals |
| Date | 2018-04-18 03:25 +0200 |
| Organization | PointedEars Software (PES) |
| Message-ID | <5146764.DvuYhMxLoT@PointedEars.de> (permalink) |
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Stefan Ram wrote:
> John G Harris <niam@jghnorth.org.uk.invalid> writes:
>> And what the ES language is is one that does not have programmable
>> pointers and does not have programmable references (for any reasonable
^^^^^^^^^^^^
>> definition of 'reference').
By that statement, John G Harris has solidly *refuted* their own ridiculous
claim. Congratulations.
ECMAScript is not an actual programming language in the sense that you can
write computer programs in it. It is a standard for programming languages
that requires implementation, and you can write computer programs in
implementations of ECMAScript. When we speak for brevity of ECMAScript as
if it were a programming language (instead of a standard for them), we
actually implicitly mean *strict* *implementations* of ECMAScript.
> »A Reference is a resolved name or property binding.
Note the marked word. This is _not_ what “reference” means when talking
about ECMAScript *implementations*.
Instead, as the anti-socially address-munging John G Harris *knows*, but
trollingly pretends not to know *every* *single* *time*, it means
“reference” as in object-oriented programming languages in general, which
is related to garbage collection.
[For those reasons and others, I have John G Harris in my killfile;
I respond to his baits only occasionally, so that he cannot confuse
beginners with his half-wit nonsense.]
After an object has been constructed, it can only be accessed by the program
through a *reference* to it, by which we (reasonable people) simply mean
*“a conceptual entity that refers to something”*.
There can be multiple references (with the same value) referring to the same
object. An object can be garbage-collected (after a potential destructor
has been called to release resources used by the object¹): the memory
reserved for its data can be “freed”, to be reservable again for other
data/objects, if there are no more references to it, because then the
program cannot access it anymore anyway. (This wording and similar ones can
be found in every description of garbage collection.)
> [tl;dr]
_______
¹ ECMAScript has no built-in concept of a destructor (yet). In ECMAScript
implementations, a destructor to release resources has to be called
explicitly, by the programmer. However, many public APIs usable with
ECMAScript implementations are usually designed so that resources are
automatically released, e.g. the handles for “File”s are closed.
--
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Trying to create array of object literals bit-naughty@hotmail.com - 2018-04-12 12:17 -0700
Re: Trying to create array of object literals bit-naughty@hotmail.com - 2018-04-12 12:26 -0700
Re: Trying to create array of object literals Maik Koenig <usenetspam@maikkoenig.de> - 2018-04-12 21:47 +0200
Re: Trying to create array of object literals Julio Di Egidio <julio@diegidio.name> - 2018-04-12 12:49 -0700
Re: Trying to create array of object literals Thomas 'PointedEars' Lahn <PointedEars@web.de> - 2018-04-13 10:27 +0200
Re: Trying to create array of object literals John G Harris <niam@jghnorth.org.uk.invalid> - 2018-04-13 10:57 +0100
Re: Trying to create array of object literals Thomas 'PointedEars' Lahn <PointedEars@web.de> - 2018-04-13 23:38 +0200
Re: Trying to create array of object literals John G Harris <niam@jghnorth.org.uk.invalid> - 2018-04-14 11:22 +0100
Re: Trying to create array of object literals Julio Di Egidio <julio@diegidio.name> - 2018-04-14 07:25 -0700
Re: Trying to create array of object literals Julio Di Egidio <julio@diegidio.name> - 2018-04-14 09:09 -0700
Re: Trying to create array of object literals John G Harris <niam@jghnorth.org.uk.invalid> - 2018-04-16 09:43 +0100
Re: Trying to create array of object literals Julio Di Egidio <julio@diegidio.name> - 2018-04-16 02:04 -0700
Re: Trying to create array of object literals "Evertjan." <exxjxw.hannivoort@inter.nl.net> - 2018-04-16 11:23 +0200
Re: Trying to create array of object literals John G Harris <niam@jghnorth.org.uk.invalid> - 2018-04-16 19:32 +0100
Re: Trying to create array of object literals "Evertjan." <exxjxw.hannivoort@inter.nl.net> - 2018-04-17 23:37 +0200
Re: Trying to create array of object literals John G Harris <niam@jghnorth.org.uk.invalid> - 2018-04-18 16:18 +0100
Re: Trying to create array of object literals "Evertjan." <exxjxw.hannivoort@inter.nl.net> - 2018-04-19 23:08 +0200
Re: Trying to create array of object literals John G Harris <niam@jghnorth.org.uk.invalid> - 2018-04-20 10:17 +0100
Re: Trying to create array of object literals "Evertjan." <exxjxw.hannivoort@inter.nl.net> - 2018-04-20 12:45 +0200
Re: Trying to create array of object literals John G Harris <niam@jghnorth.org.uk.invalid> - 2018-04-20 19:08 +0100
Re: Trying to create array of object literals "c.l.js" <trollhunter@curiosity.kills.no> - 2018-04-20 17:04 -0300
Re: Trying to create array of object literals Julio Di Egidio <julio@diegidio.name> - 2018-04-20 13:15 -0700
Is JS a functional programming language? (was: Trying to create array of object literals) Thomas 'PointedEars' Lahn <PointedEars@web.de> - 2018-04-21 02:35 +0200
Re: Is JS a functional programming language? (was: Trying to create array of object literals) Julio Di Egidio <julio@diegidio.name> - 2018-04-21 01:36 -0700
Re: Is JS a functional programming language? (was: Trying to create array of object literals) "Michael Haufe (TNO)" <tno@thenewobjective.com> - 2018-04-21 11:46 -0700
Re: Is JS a functional programming language? (was: Trying to create array of object literals) "Michael Haufe (TNO)" <tno@thenewobjective.com> - 2018-04-21 11:48 -0700
Re: Is JS a functional programming language? (was: Trying to create array of object literals) Julio Di Egidio <julio@diegidio.name> - 2018-04-21 23:53 -0700
Re: Is JS a functional programming language? (was: Trying to create array of object literals) "Michael Haufe (TNO)" <tno@thenewobjective.com> - 2018-04-22 10:33 -0700
Re: Is JS a functional programming language? (was: Trying to create array of object literals) Julio Di Egidio <julio@diegidio.name> - 2018-04-23 00:27 -0700
Re: Is JS a functional programming language? (was: Trying to create array of object literals) "Michael Haufe (TNO)" <tno@thenewobjective.com> - 2018-04-23 11:50 -0700
Re: Is JS a functional programming language? (was: Trying to create array of object literals) Julio Di Egidio <julio@diegidio.name> - 2018-04-23 12:00 -0700
Re: Is JS a functional programming language? (was: Trying to create array of object literals) "Michael Haufe (TNO)" <tno@thenewobjective.com> - 2018-04-23 15:07 -0700
Re: Is JS a functional programming language? "Christoph M. Becker" <cmbecker69@arcor.de> - 2018-04-24 00:47 +0200
Re: Is JS a functional programming language? Julio Di Egidio <julio@diegidio.name> - 2018-04-23 16:12 -0700
Re: Is JS a functional programming language? "Christoph M. Becker" <cmbecker69@arcor.de> - 2018-04-24 01:30 +0200
Re: Is JS a functional programming language? Julio Di Egidio <julio@diegidio.name> - 2018-04-23 16:45 -0700
Re: Is JS a functional programming language? John G Harris <niam@jghnorth.org.uk.invalid> - 2018-04-24 09:54 +0100
Re: Is JS a functional programming language? Tim Streater <timstreater@greenbee.net> - 2018-04-24 10:17 +0000
Re: Is JS a functional programming language? "Michael Haufe (TNO)" <tno@thenewobjective.com> - 2018-04-24 12:02 -0700
Re: Is JS a functional programming language? Thomas 'PointedEars' Lahn <PointedEars@web.de> - 2018-04-25 05:04 +0200
Re: Is JS a functional programming language? Julio Di Egidio <julio@diegidio.name> - 2018-04-25 02:16 -0700
Re: Is JS a functional programming language? Julio Di Egidio <julio@diegidio.name> - 2018-04-25 02:20 -0700
Re: Is JS a functional programming language? John G Harris <niam@jghnorth.org.uk.invalid> - 2018-04-25 18:22 +0100
Re: Is JS a functional programming language? Jon Ribbens <jon+usenet@unequivocal.eu> - 2018-04-25 17:25 +0000
Re: Is JS a functional programming language? "Michael Haufe (TNO)" <tno@thenewobjective.com> - 2018-04-25 14:50 -0700
Re: Is JS a functional programming language? "Michael Haufe (TNO)" <tno@thenewobjective.com> - 2018-04-25 14:39 -0700
Re: Is JS a functional programming language? Thomas 'PointedEars' Lahn <PointedEars@web.de> - 2018-04-29 20:44 +0200
Re: Is JS a functional programming language? "Michael Haufe (TNO)" <tno@thenewobjective.com> - 2018-04-29 13:45 -0700
Re: Is JS a functional programming language? "c.l.js" <trollhunter@curiosity.kills.no> - 2018-04-21 19:51 -0300
Re: Is JS a functional programming language? Thomas 'PointedEars' Lahn <PointedEars@web.de> - 2018-04-22 01:18 +0200
Re: Is JS a functional programming language? Thomas 'PointedEars' Lahn <PointedEars@web.de> - 2018-04-22 02:19 +0200
Re: Is JS a functional programming language? "Mark-" <nospam@mapson.xyz> - 2018-04-22 01:52 +0000
Re: Is JS a functional programming language? Thomas 'PointedEars' Lahn <PointedEars@web.de> - 2018-04-22 04:30 +0200
Re: Is JS a functional programming language? "Mark-" <nospam@mapson.xyz> - 2018-04-22 02:45 +0000
Re: Is JS a functional programming language? Thomas 'PointedEars' Lahn <PointedEars@web.de> - 2018-04-22 05:55 +0200
Re: Is JS a functional programming language? "Mark-" <nospam@mapson.xyz> - 2018-04-22 04:04 +0000
Re: Is JS a functional programming language? "Evertjan." <exxjxw.hannivoort@inter.nl.net> - 2018-04-22 10:59 +0200
Re: Is JS a functional programming language? John G Harris <niam@jghnorth.org.uk.invalid> - 2018-04-22 11:03 +0100
Re: Is JS a functional programming language? "Evertjan." <exxjxw.hannivoort@inter.nl.net> - 2018-04-22 12:50 +0200
Re: Is JS a functional programming language? John G Harris <niam@jghnorth.org.uk.invalid> - 2018-04-23 09:19 +0100
Re: Is JS a functional programming language? "Mark-" <nospam@mapson.xyz> - 2018-04-22 12:58 +0000
Re: Trying to create array of object literals John G Harris <niam@jghnorth.org.uk.invalid> - 2018-04-16 10:02 +0100
Re: Trying to create array of object literals Julio Di Egidio <julio@diegidio.name> - 2018-04-16 02:05 -0700
Re: Trying to create array of object literals "Evertjan." <exxjxw.hannivoort@inter.nl.net> - 2018-04-16 11:27 +0200
Re: Trying to create array of object literals Julio Di Egidio <julio@diegidio.name> - 2018-04-16 02:33 -0700
Re: Trying to create array of object literals "Evertjan." <exxjxw.hannivoort@inter.nl.net> - 2018-04-16 14:03 +0200
Re: Trying to create array of object literals John G Harris <niam@jghnorth.org.uk.invalid> - 2018-04-16 19:40 +0100
Re: Trying to create array of object literals John G Harris <niam@jghnorth.org.uk.invalid> - 2018-04-17 09:45 +0100
Re: Trying to create array of object literals Thomas 'PointedEars' Lahn <PointedEars@web.de> - 2018-04-18 03:25 +0200
Re: Trying to create array of object literals John G Harris <niam@jghnorth.org.uk.invalid> - 2018-04-18 15:50 +0100
Re: Trying to create array of object literals John G Harris <niam@jghnorth.org.uk.invalid> - 2018-04-18 16:08 +0100
Re: Trying to create array of object literals Thomas 'PointedEars' Lahn <PointedEars@web.de> - 2018-04-19 03:34 +0200
Re: Trying to create array of object literals John G Harris <niam@jghnorth.org.uk.invalid> - 2018-04-19 10:37 +0100
Re: Trying to create array of object literals John G Harris <niam@jghnorth.org.uk.invalid> - 2018-04-19 19:02 +0100
Re: Trying to create array of object literals Thomas 'PointedEars' Lahn <PointedEars@web.de> - 2018-04-19 03:25 +0200
Re: Trying to create array of object literals John G Harris <niam@jghnorth.org.uk.invalid> - 2018-04-16 19:37 +0100
Re: Trying to create array of object literals Julio Di Egidio <julio@diegidio.name> - 2018-04-16 11:48 -0700
Re: Trying to create array of object literals John G Harris <niam@jghnorth.org.uk.invalid> - 2018-04-17 09:52 +0100
Re: Trying to create array of object literals Julio Di Egidio <julio@diegidio.name> - 2018-04-17 03:22 -0700
Re: Trying to create array of object literals John G Harris <niam@jghnorth.org.uk.invalid> - 2018-04-17 18:28 +0100
Re: Trying to create array of object literals bit-naughty@hotmail.com - 2018-04-13 04:08 -0700
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