Re: Objects what are they.

Newsgroups	comp.lang.javascript
Date	2019-04-30 06:21 -0700
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Subject	Re: Objects what are they.
From	jonas.thornvall@gmail.com

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Den tisdag 30 april 2019 kl. 02:35:55 UTC+2 skrev jonas.t...@gmail.com:
> Den måndag 29 april 2019 kl. 18:32:13 UTC+2 skrev R.Wieser:
> > Julio,
> > 
> > > The answer was given already: one gets a *reference* to an object.
> > 
> > To use your own words "*That* is an implementation detail". :-p
> > 
> > But, in one message you:
> > - do exactly what you accuse others of (talking about "implementation 
> > detail")
> > - replacing one word for a similar one and crow victory.
> > - not giving the OP anything better than that he's already got. :-(
> > 
> > Kiddo, I would like to believe you're just doing exactly what you accuse me 
> > of doing (trolling), but looking at the above I don't think you've got the 
> > smarts for that. :-)
> > 
> > > And this is not even the first time this comes up, which is
> > > the reason why I call you a troll,
> > 
> > Lolz.   Kiddo, we've crossed paths three times in the last 5 months, and 
> > none of the subjects where about anything comparable.    But be my guest and 
> > quote what you are referring to there (I won't hold my breath though).
> > 
> > As for you calling me a troll ?    You can call me anything you want.  But 
> > as long as I do not see anything from you that supports your accusations I 
> > will just ignore it.
> > 
> > > It's your spouting bullshit that is helping nobody... troll.
> > 
> > :-) You know whats funny about that ?     Yesterday I got a "thank you" from 
> > groovee for trying to explain that stuff to him.
> > 
> > But if you think its all "bullshit" you are (again, second time) free to 
> > come up with something better.   I'm actually looking forward to it.    You 
> > see, I'm convinced that there is a *lot* that I do not know, and you could 
> > be telling me new stuff.
> > 
> > But there is one thing I do not do: accept someones claims of things being 
> > this-or-that "because I say so". You have to have present proof, or at least 
> > supporting arguments for it.
> > 
> > So, are you up to it ?
> > 
> > Regards,
> > Rudy Wieser
> 
> I think my main point with the thread have been should there not be a structure to look at "when you want to construct or read out data" from an object.
> 
> And a structure that is easy to understand.
> 
> I claim my structure "declaration" of an object is easy to learn,understand you learn howto make one "you know howto make all.
> 
> Read out and in data "is the same way as javascript". But the object is contained in an easily understandable context. ***I am not even sure the context for object structure is there in javascript***, mainly because structure is ***A ONEWAY LINKED LIST**** 
> 
> Synth[i].Syntnname="Roland D50"
> Synth[i].Bank[j].Instrument[k].InstrumentName="Violin"
> Synth[i].Bank[j].Instrument[k].Note[l].Notename="Cymbal"
> 
> Obj. Synth: 
>    //  Prop. 
>    Synth[](Synthname,(Bank)) 
>    //  SubProp/obj. 
>    Bank[](BankNr,Bankname,(Instrument)) 
>    //  SubProp/obj. 
>    Instrument[](InstrumentNr,Instrumentname,(Note)) 
>    //  SubProp.     
>    Note[](NoteNr, Notename);

One last thing, if you have a constructor that tells how the object built why would you need all this shit like new, prototype, create, push the whole paradigm seems totally superfluos and just a mind construction that comes in the way from programming?

If i want to add an object that would be arr[arr.length++]="Yeah it is an assignment";

Why would you ever need any other syntax the object constructor and an assignment off a value?

***I DO NOT GET IT, TELL ME***

What is the purpose of all the syntax and semantics, javscripts in special seem superfluos, why is it there?
I mean

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Objects what are they. jonas.thornvall@gmail.com - 2019-04-25 02:16 -0700
  Re: Objects what are they. jonas.thornvall@gmail.com - 2019-04-25 02:40 -0700
  Re: Objects what are they. groovee@cyberdude.com - 2019-04-25 09:12 -0700
    Re: Objects what are they. John G Harris <niam@jghnorth.org.uk.invalid> - 2019-04-25 18:37 +0100
      Re: Objects what are they. jonas.thornvall@gmail.com - 2019-04-25 23:41 -0700
        Re: Objects what are they. jonas.thornvall@gmail.com - 2019-04-25 23:56 -0700
          Re: Objects what are they. jonas.thornvall@gmail.com - 2019-04-26 00:00 -0700
        Re: Objects what are they. John G Harris <niam@jghnorth.org.uk.invalid> - 2019-04-26 10:45 +0100
          Re: Objects what are they. jonas.thornvall@gmail.com - 2019-04-26 04:37 -0700
            Re: Objects what are they. John G Harris <niam@jghnorth.org.uk.invalid> - 2019-04-26 19:41 +0100
              Re: Objects what are they. "Evertjan." <exxjxw.hannivoort@inter.nl.net> - 2019-04-26 21:11 +0200
                Re: Objects what are they. jonas.thornvall@gmail.com - 2019-04-26 13:23 -0700
                Re: Objects what are they. "Evertjan." <exxjxw.hannivoort@inter.nl.net> - 2019-04-26 23:32 +0200
                Re: Objects what are they. jonas.thornvall@gmail.com - 2019-04-26 15:11 -0700
                Re: Objects what are they. jonas.thornvall@gmail.com - 2019-04-26 15:24 -0700
                Re: Objects what are they. "Evertjan." <exxjxw.hannivoort@inter.nl.net> - 2019-04-27 11:52 +0200
                Re: Objects what are they. John G Harris <niam@jghnorth.org.uk.invalid> - 2019-04-27 11:17 +0100
                Re: Objects what are they. jonas.thornvall@gmail.com - 2019-04-27 05:00 -0700
                Re: Objects what are they. jonas.thornvall@gmail.com - 2019-04-27 05:06 -0700
                Re: Objects what are they. John G Harris <niam@jghnorth.org.uk.invalid> - 2019-04-27 11:08 +0100
          Re: Objects what are they. jonas.thornvall@gmail.com - 2019-04-28 05:03 -0700
            Re: Objects what are they. "R.Wieser" <address@not.available> - 2019-04-28 18:11 +0200
              Re: Objects what are they. jonas.thornvall@gmail.com - 2019-04-29 03:43 -0700
                Re: Objects what are they. "R.Wieser" <address@not.available> - 2019-04-29 14:11 +0200
                Re: Objects what are they. John-Paul Stewart <jpstewart@sympatico.ca> - 2019-04-29 11:15 -0400
                Re: Objects what are they. jonas.thornvall@gmail.com - 2019-04-29 08:41 -0700
                Re: Objects what are they. John-Paul Stewart <jpstewart@sympatico.ca> - 2019-04-29 15:16 -0400
                Re: Objects what are they. jonas.thornvall@gmail.com - 2019-04-29 15:56 -0700
                Re: Objects what are they. jonas.thornvall@gmail.com - 2019-04-29 16:08 -0700
                Re: Objects what are they. jonas.thornvall@gmail.com - 2019-04-29 16:30 -0700
                Re: Objects what are they. Julio Di Egidio <julio@diegidio.name> - 2019-04-29 09:44 -0700
                Re: Objects what are they. jonas.thornvall@gmail.com - 2019-04-29 08:31 -0700
        Re: Objects what are they. "Evertjan." <exxjxw.hannivoort@inter.nl.net> - 2019-04-26 13:48 +0200
      Re: Objects what are they. jonas.thornvall@gmail.com - 2019-04-26 00:25 -0700
        Re: Objects what are they. jonas.thornvall@gmail.com - 2019-04-26 00:30 -0700
        Re: Objects what are they. jonas.thornvall@gmail.com - 2019-04-26 01:06 -0700
      Re: Objects what are they. groovee@cyberdude.com - 2019-04-26 07:41 -0700
        Re: Objects what are they. Jon Ribbens <jon+usenet@unequivocal.eu> - 2019-04-26 15:39 +0000
          Re: Objects what are they. Thomas 'PointedEars' Lahn <PointedEars@web.de> - 2019-04-26 23:23 +0200
            Re: Objects what are they. John G Harris <niam@jghnorth.org.uk.invalid> - 2019-04-27 11:25 +0100
              Re: Objects what are they. Julio Di Egidio <julio@diegidio.name> - 2019-04-27 04:10 -0700
                Re: Objects what are they. Julio Di Egidio <julio@diegidio.name> - 2019-04-27 04:17 -0700
                Re: Objects what are they. John G Harris <niam@jghnorth.org.uk.invalid> - 2019-04-27 14:39 +0100
                Re: Objects what are they. Julio Di Egidio <julio@diegidio.name> - 2019-04-27 10:16 -0700
                Re: Objects what are they. John G Harris <niam@jghnorth.org.uk.invalid> - 2019-04-28 10:53 +0100
                Re: Objects what are they. Julio Di Egidio <julio@diegidio.name> - 2019-04-29 07:08 -0700
                Re: Objects what are they. John G Harris <niam@jghnorth.org.uk.invalid> - 2019-04-30 11:03 +0100
                Re: Objects what are they. John G Harris <niam@jghnorth.org.uk.invalid> - 2019-04-27 14:43 +0100
        Re: Objects what are they. John G Harris <niam@jghnorth.org.uk.invalid> - 2019-04-26 19:36 +0100
          Re: Objects what are they. groovee@cyberdude.com - 2019-04-28 08:53 -0700
            Re: Objects what are they. John G Harris <niam@jghnorth.org.uk.invalid> - 2019-04-29 10:35 +0100
        Re: Objects what are they. "R.Wieser" <address@not.available> - 2019-04-27 17:45 +0200
          Re: Objects what are they. Julio Di Egidio <julio@diegidio.name> - 2019-04-27 10:19 -0700
            Re: Objects what are they. "R.Wieser" <address@not.available> - 2019-04-27 20:57 +0200
              Re: Objects what are they. Julio Di Egidio <julio@diegidio.name> - 2019-04-29 06:53 -0700
                Re: Objects what are they. John G Harris <niam@jghnorth.org.uk.invalid> - 2019-04-29 15:08 +0100
                Re: Objects what are they. "R.Wieser" <address@not.available> - 2019-04-29 19:21 +0200
                Re: Objects what are they. John G Harris <niam@jghnorth.org.uk.invalid> - 2019-04-29 20:06 +0100
                Re: Objects what are they. "R.Wieser" <address@not.available> - 2019-04-29 23:09 +0200
                Re: Objects what are they. John G Harris <niam@jghnorth.org.uk.invalid> - 2019-04-30 10:39 +0100
                Re: Objects what are they. "R.Wieser" <address@not.available> - 2019-04-30 14:06 +0200
                Re: Objects what are they. Julio Di Egidio <julio@diegidio.name> - 2019-04-30 05:26 -0700
                Re: Objects what are they. "R.Wieser" <address@not.available> - 2019-04-30 19:14 +0200
                Re: Objects what are they. Julio Di Egidio <julio@diegidio.name> - 2019-04-30 12:07 -0700
                Re: Objects what are they. John G Harris <niam@jghnorth.org.uk.invalid> - 2019-05-01 14:29 +0100
                Re: Objects what are they. Julio Di Egidio <julio@diegidio.name> - 2019-05-01 07:52 -0700
                Re: Objects what are they. John G Harris <niam@jghnorth.org.uk.invalid> - 2019-05-01 18:34 +0100
                Re: Objects what are they. John G Harris <niam@jghnorth.org.uk.invalid> - 2019-04-30 18:27 +0100
                Re: Objects what are they. John G Harris <niam@jghnorth.org.uk.invalid> - 2019-04-30 18:22 +0100
                Re: Objects what are they. "R.Wieser" <address@not.available> - 2019-04-30 22:25 +0200
                Re: Objects what are they. John G Harris <niam@jghnorth.org.uk.invalid> - 2019-05-01 15:15 +0100
                Re: Objects what are they. "R.Wieser" <address@not.available> - 2019-04-29 18:31 +0200
                Re: Objects what are they. Julio Di Egidio <julio@diegidio.name> - 2019-04-29 09:42 -0700
                Re: Objects what are they. "R.Wieser" <address@not.available> - 2019-04-29 19:42 +0200
                Re: Objects what are they. jonas.thornvall@gmail.com - 2019-04-29 17:35 -0700
                Re: Objects what are they. jonas.thornvall@gmail.com - 2019-04-30 00:18 -0700
                Re: Objects what are they. jonas.thornvall@gmail.com - 2019-04-30 06:00 -0700
                Re: Objects what are they. Julio Di Egidio <julio@diegidio.name> - 2019-04-30 06:16 -0700
                Re: Objects what are they. jonas.thornvall@gmail.com - 2019-04-30 06:38 -0700
                Re: Objects what are they. jonas.thornvall@gmail.com - 2019-04-30 06:21 -0700
          Re: Objects what are they. groovee@cyberdude.com - 2019-04-28 08:43 -0700
            Re: Objects what are they. "R.Wieser" <address@not.available> - 2019-04-28 19:02 +0200
    Re: Objects what are they. Thomas 'PointedEars' Lahn <PointedEars@web.de> - 2019-04-26 23:07 +0200

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