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Re: DOM style object property names with vendor prefixes

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JFTR.

Chris Beall wrote:

> Thomas 'PointedEars' Lahn wrote:
>> Chris Beall wrote:
>>> Thomas 'PointedEars' Lahn wrote:
>>>> The recommendations for text formatting in Usenet are:
>>>> *bold/emphasized*,
>>>> _underline/corrected_, and /italic/ (I use the last one for foreign
>>>> words; there are others who use it for emphasis).  At least the
>>>> Mozilla(/5.0)-based newsreaders implement it that way.
>>>
>>> Yes, but not everyone uses those
>>
>> Hence “at least”.
>>
>>> and I had no way of knowing if you were among those who do not.
>>
>> The newsreader that I am using is irrelevant; the *plain-text*
>> formatting is
>> used for displaying a posted, primarily not composing a to-be-posted
>> message, by several newsreaders.
> 
> I was not referring to your newsreader. I was referring to your use, or
> not, of the *emphacis* notation.  Some people don't know about it; some
> do, but don't use it.  I now know that your both know and use it.

Your subtle attempt to single me out here is misguided, unsuccessful, and 
above that not appreciated at all.  The first rule of participation in 
Usenet, in *any* culture or subculture really, is to get yourself informed 
about it *in advance*.  Those who neglect to do so will be facing 
difficulties of the kind you experienced.  As for Usenet, there are many 
tutorials, none of them written by me, that explain the use of this plain-
text formatting, and that and why you should avoid using all-caps text 
instead of them.  I would be surprised if the FAQ of/for this newsgroup 
(whatever you prefer) would not at least indirectly refer to one of them.

>>> It is an unfortunate coincidence that the position of the word allowed
>>> for easy mis-interpretation.
>>
>> I do not think a *careful* reader *willing to do some research* could
>> have misunderstood.  There is an “e.g.” in there, after all.  However,
>> English is not my native language, so I *might* be mistaken.
> 
> e.g. is a Latin abbreviation.

*In English*, the language I have been using for presenting the example, it 
is an abbreviation *derived from* Latin (meaning «exempli gratiā» – 
literally, “free example”) which translates to “for example”.  My knowledge 
of English and Latin is certainly incomplete, but I know *that*.

I am not aware of another contemporary language that uses it in this way.  
(Certainly my native language, German, does not.)  Are you?

> Your native language is irrelevant here.

If English were my native language, then naturally I would be more aware of 
mistakes I had made in the wording of a sentence written in English.

> And I think if you review the original wording you see that its presence
> does not remove the ambiguity.

Which ambiguity?  “You could then even use, for example, less to make it 
more obvious …”, where “less” means the opposite of “more”, does not make 
any sense.  Why should I name “use less” as an example?  What would be the 
other possibility that did not serve as example – “more”, or something like 
that?  That would not make sense either.

So Occam’s Razor suggests that “LESS” *could not* have been meant as an 
emphasized “less”.  Therefore, it *must* have meant something else.

When I am logged out at Google (so that my previous visits become irrelevant 
to the result sort order), the first result of a search for “LESS” (and even 
“less”) is <http://lesscss.org/>.

From that I conclude that you have not searched.  As you have not searched, 
you have not found a problem with the sentence when interpreted in your (the 
wrong) way.  As you have found no problem, but you are a native speaker of 
English, you could not have it read carefully.  And ISTM that you are now 
winding around the admission of that fact.

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DOM style object property names with vendor prefixes "Chris Beall" <Chris_Beall@prodigy.net> - 2014-10-27 16:30 -0400
  Re: DOM style object property names with vendor prefixes "Michael Haufe (TNO)" <tno@thenewobjective.com> - 2014-10-27 14:07 -0700
    Re: DOM style object property names with vendor prefixes "Chris Beall" <Chris_Beall@prodigy.net> - 2014-10-27 17:43 -0400
    Re: DOM style object property names with vendor prefixes Andrew Poulos <ap_prog@hotmail.com> - 2014-10-28 09:48 +1100
      Re: DOM style object property names with vendor prefixes "Michael Haufe (TNO)" <tno@thenewobjective.com> - 2014-10-27 22:45 -0700
        Re: DOM style object property names with vendor prefixes Andrew Poulos <ap_prog@hotmail.com> - 2014-10-28 19:31 +1100
          Re: DOM style object property names with vendor prefixes "Chris Beall" <Chris_Beall@prodigy.net> - 2014-10-28 09:59 -0400
          Re: DOM style object property names with vendor prefixes Thomas 'PointedEars' Lahn <PointedEars@web.de> - 2014-10-28 15:26 +0100
          Re: DOM style object property names with vendor prefixes Andrew Poulos <ap_prog@hotmail.com> - 2014-10-31 12:29 +1100
  Re: DOM style object property names with vendor prefixes Thomas 'PointedEars' Lahn <PointedEars@web.de> - 2014-10-27 22:20 +0100
    Re: DOM style object property names with vendor prefixes "Chris Beall" <Chris_Beall@prodigy.net> - 2014-10-27 18:11 -0400
      Re: DOM style object property names with vendor prefixes Thomas 'PointedEars' Lahn <PointedEars@web.de> - 2014-10-27 23:45 +0100
        Re: DOM style object property names with vendor prefixes "Chris Beall" <Chris_Beall@prodigy.net> - 2014-10-27 20:38 -0400
          Re: DOM style object property names with vendor prefixes Thomas 'PointedEars' Lahn <PointedEars@web.de> - 2014-10-28 19:49 +0100
            Re: DOM style object property names with vendor prefixes "Chris Beall" <Chris_Beall@prodigy.net> - 2014-10-28 17:56 -0400
              Re: DOM style object property names with vendor prefixes Thomas 'PointedEars' Lahn <PointedEars@web.de> - 2014-10-29 21:07 +0100
                Re: DOM style object property names with vendor prefixes "Chris Beall" <Chris_Beall@prodigy.net> - 2014-10-30 12:50 -0400
                Re: DOM style object property names with vendor prefixes Thomas 'PointedEars' Lahn <PointedEars@web.de> - 2014-10-30 19:13 +0100
                Re: DOM style object property names with vendor prefixes "Chris Beall" <Chris_Beall@prodigy.net> - 2014-10-30 17:17 -0400
                Re: DOM style object property names with vendor prefixes Thomas 'PointedEars' Lahn <PointedEars@web.de> - 2014-10-31 20:35 +0100
        Re: DOM style object property names with vendor prefixes "Chris Beall" <Chris_Beall@prodigy.net> - 2014-10-27 23:19 -0400
          Re: DOM style object property names with vendor prefixes John Harris <niam@jghnorth.org.uk.invalid> - 2014-10-28 10:11 +0000
            Re: DOM style object property names with vendor prefixes Tim Streater <timstreater@greenbee.net> - 2014-10-28 11:42 +0000
              Re: DOM style object property names with vendor prefixes "Chris Beall" <Chris_Beall@prodigy.net> - 2014-10-28 09:52 -0400
            Re: DOM style object property names with vendor prefixes "Chris Beall" <Chris_Beall@prodigy.net> - 2014-10-28 09:49 -0400
              Re: DOM style object property names with vendor prefixes John Harris <niam@jghnorth.org.uk.invalid> - 2014-10-29 15:48 +0000
          Re: DOM style object property names with vendor prefixes Thomas 'PointedEars' Lahn <PointedEars@web.de> - 2014-10-28 15:54 +0100
        Re: DOM style object property names with vendor prefixes Scott Sauyet <scott.sauyet@gmail.com> - 2014-10-30 08:12 -0700
  Re: DOM style object property names with vendor prefixes Joao Rodrigues <groups_jr-1@yahoo.com.br> - 2014-10-29 15:23 -0200
    Re: DOM style object property names with vendor prefixes Thomas 'PointedEars' Lahn <PointedEars@web.de> - 2014-10-29 21:47 +0100
      Re: DOM style object property names with vendor prefixes Thomas 'PointedEars' Lahn <PointedEars@web.de> - 2014-10-30 07:32 +0100
    Re: DOM style object property names with vendor prefixes "Chris Beall" <Chris_Beall@prodigy.net> - 2014-10-30 10:47 -0400

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