Groups | Search | Server Info | Keyboard shortcuts | Login | Register [http] [https] [nntp] [nntps]

Groups > comp.lang.javascript > #21557

Re: fixed position sidebar and small screen/mobile devices?

Cross-posted to 3 groups.

Followups directed to: comp.infosystems.www.authoring.html

Show all headers | View raw

John Stumbles wrote:

> On Sat, 12 Feb 2011 03:58:43 +1100, dorayme wrote:
>> Before worrying about what so many different users on different
>> platforms and devices will usefully receive, it might be better
>> to start with a few basics like checking your html at
>> 
>> <http://validator.w3.org/>
> 
> Sorry, my bad: that's what comes of changing things at 2 o'clock in the
> morning :-(
> Fixed now.

For some values of "fixed".  You are still serving XHTML as text/html even 
to XHTML-supporting clients, causing it to be parsed as erroneous tag soup, 
forfeiting many of the advantages of using XHTML.  (But you are not alone 
there.)
 
>> In my modern Safari browsers, absolutely nothing shows when your url is
>> loaded. FF has more generous error correction, but that is a mixed
>> blessing.
> 
> Yes, practically the whole page was inside an un-closed comment. Somewhere
> I'd picked up an open comment <!-- after my initial <style ...>
> declaration and lost the matching close comment --> before the </style>.

In XHTML, the `style' element MUST NOT be commented out that way at all (and 
it does not need to, considering XHTML's history), unless you also declare 
the element content CDATA (which you probably should, although the better 
alternative is to move it to a referred resource).

>> Why boast the xhtml logo on your site, why would you even if you had
>> produced valid markup? (I won't say why use xhtml in the first place?
>> <g>)
> 
> OK: *I AM A BEGINNER AT THIS*

No need to SHOUT around here.

> Someone recommended that particular DTD.

Perhaps you want to review your decision-making process.

> I am willing - nay eager - to learn what the pros and cons of that versus
> other DTDs are.

Do not use XHTML until and unless you know what you are doing.  As long as 
you consider yourself a beginner, stick with HTML 4.01.  As for the rest, 
subscribe to and read comp.infosystems.www.authoring.html (and watch out for 
wannabes).

> As for the W3C valid logo: why not?

Because you had not provided as advertized, and you are unlikely to in the 
future without basic markup knowledge.  And because Validation alone is no 
sign of software quality; even the W3C Validator tells you that.

> And it's a handy way for me to check the page (as long as I remember!)

That would be a sound argument if you were the only person to visit that 
site and read that document.  But then you would have used a local 
webserver, yes?

>> Forget for quite a while browser sniffing, see what you can do without
>> first.
> 
> Any specific help gratefully received.

No need to reiterate that.  Read the c.l.js FAQ Notes, referred from 
<http://jibbering.com/faq/>.  Probably you also want to read the FAQ and all 
the resources referred to there.


F'up2 ciwa.html; keep in mind that mindless crossposts are usually going to 
earn you stony silence from regulars, the people that could help you best.  
I am making an exception here.  See also 
<http://www.catb.org/~esr/faqs/smart-questions.html>.

PointedEars
-- 
Danny Goodman's books are out of date and teach practices that are
positively harmful for cross-browser scripting.
 -- Richard Cornford, cljs, <cife6q$253$1$8300dec7@news.demon.co.uk> (2004)

Back to comp.lang.javascript | Previous | Next — Previous in thread | Next in thread | Find similar | Unroll thread

Thread

Re: fixed position sidebar and small screen/mobile devices? John Stumbles <john.stumbles@ntlworld.com> - 2011-02-11 19:48 +0000
  Re: fixed position sidebar and small screen/mobile devices? Thomas 'PointedEars' Lahn <PointedEars@web.de> - 2011-02-11 21:49 +0100
  Re: fixed position sidebar and small screen/mobile devices? dorayme <dorayme@optusnet.com.au> - 2011-02-12 10:41 +1100

csiph-web