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Re: baffled trying to call style.display value

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Scott Sauyet wrote:

> Thomas 'PointedEars' Lahn wrote:
>> Scott Sauyet wrote:
>>> Thomas 'PointedEars' Lahn  wrote:
>>>> Scott Sauyet wrote:
>>>>> JeffG  wrote:
>>>>>> [ ... ]
>>>>>> For some reason, the function is unable to return the style.display
>>>>>> value that was set by the CSS file [ ... ]
>>>>> `someElement.style` represents the collection of properties known to
>>>>> the Javascript engine, which is, chiefly, the ones set by that
>>>>> engine.
> […]
> I do understand the DOM APIs.

No, evidently you do not.

> I'm arguing that they are not relevant to the user's question.

Which is wrong.  The “style” property of element *host* objects is there 
*because of* the DOM APIs, not because of a script engine.

> Did you really not understand that?

I fully understand that and why you are wrong.

> Or are you being intentionally obnoxious?

I am trying to tell you that and why you are wrong, but you are not 
listening.

> Seriously, though, if you think the name is so bad, have you organized
> a CFV to create a different group, one which would focus correctly on
> the specification? If not, why not?

There is no need for a different newsgroup.  This newsgroup has evolved into 
what you do not want to see: a newsgroup for discussions about ECMAScript 
implementations and their applications, whereas the latter naturally 
includes the DOM API.  The newsgroup does not need to be renamed, because 
JavaScript still is an ECMAScript implementation (although its tagline 
should be updated).  And it should not be renamed because then – given 
especially misconceptions such as you have them – it would be harder to find 
for the interested, and all people who have already subscribed or are 
peering the newsgroup would have to change their setups.

> I am a working Javascript programmer.

No, you are not.

> I code eight or nine hours per day, almost all of that in Javascript.

No, you don't.

> I certainly believe there is such a thing as Javascript.

Then you are a fool.

> I work with it every day.

An incompetent fool.  I pity your customers already.

> I do understand that there are distinct implementations that adhere to
> varying degrees to the ECMAScript specification.

Evidently you have not understood anything of what I told you.

> But I am not an ECMAScript programmer.

Yes, at least in a way you are (you are using ECMAScript implementations; if 
you script SVG you are using ECMAScript for real), but you refuse to accept 
it.

> I am a Javascript programmer.

See what I mean?

> Your repeated incorrect assertions that the subject matter of my job
> doesn't exist is a minor irritant.

I am working as a Web application developer.  That includes, but is not 
limited to, using ECMAScript implementations such as Mozilla JavaScript, 
Microsoft JScript, Google V8 JavaScript, Apple JavaScriptCore, Opera 
ECMAScript, and KDE JavaScript, to manipulate web browsers and web documents 
through implementations of DOM APIs.


PointedEars
-- 
var bugRiddenCrashPronePieceOfJunk = (
    navigator.userAgent.indexOf('MSIE 5') != -1
    && navigator.userAgent.indexOf('Mac') != -1
)  // Plone, register_function.js:16

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baffled trying to call style.display value JeffG <jeffgutsell@fuse.net> - 2012-11-27 08:08 -0800
  Re: baffled trying to call style.display value Scott Sauyet <scott.sauyet@gmail.com> - 2012-11-27 08:20 -0800
    Re: baffled trying to call style.display value Thomas 'PointedEars' Lahn <PointedEars@web.de> - 2012-12-10 01:24 +0100
      Re: baffled trying to call style.display value Scott Sauyet <scott.sauyet@gmail.com> - 2012-12-10 05:03 -0800
        Re: baffled trying to call style.display value Thomas 'PointedEars' Lahn <PointedEars@web.de> - 2012-12-10 16:04 +0100
          Re: baffled trying to call style.display value Scott Sauyet <scott.sauyet@gmail.com> - 2012-12-10 08:54 -0800
            Re: baffled trying to call style.display value Thomas 'PointedEars' Lahn <PointedEars@web.de> - 2012-12-10 19:36 +0100
          Re: baffled trying to call style.display value Stefan Weiss <krewecherl@gmail.com> - 2012-12-10 22:45 +0100
            Re: baffled trying to call style.display value Andrew Poulos <ap_prog@hotmail.com> - 2012-12-11 10:19 +1100
            Re: baffled trying to call style.display value Thomas 'PointedEars' Lahn <PointedEars@web.de> - 2012-12-11 00:34 +0100
        Re: baffled trying to call style.display value Scott Sauyet <scott.sauyet@gmail.com> - 2012-12-10 07:39 -0800
          Re: baffled trying to call style.display value Thomas 'PointedEars' Lahn <PointedEars@web.de> - 2012-12-10 17:10 +0100
  Re: baffled trying to call style.display value Jake Jarvis <pig_in_shoes@yahoo.com> - 2012-11-27 17:33 +0100
    Re: baffled trying to call style.display value Thomas 'PointedEars' Lahn <PointedEars@web.de> - 2012-11-27 17:49 +0100
  Re: baffled trying to call style.display value JeffG <jeffgutsell@fuse.net> - 2012-11-27 09:38 -0800
    Re: baffled trying to call style.display value Tim Streater <timstreater@greenbee.net> - 2012-11-27 17:59 +0000
      Re: baffled trying to call style.display value Thomas 'PointedEars' Lahn <PointedEars@web.de> - 2012-11-27 21:01 +0100
        Re: baffled trying to call style.display value Tim Streater <timstreater@greenbee.net> - 2012-11-27 22:32 +0000
          Re: baffled trying to call style.display value Thomas 'PointedEars' Lahn <PointedEars@web.de> - 2012-11-27 23:50 +0100

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