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Re: FAQ Topic - Why does my code fail to access an element? (2013-01-26)

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Evertjan. wrote:

> Thomas 'PointedEars' Lahn wrote on 28 jan 2013 in comp.lang.javascript:
>> It is not exactly news around here that it is only *safe*
> 
> That something is not news is not an argument of fact per se.

It was not meant to be.  Just a reminder that and why this “dicussion” 
actually is pointless.

>> to access an element object for an element in the document when that
>> document has been loaded; that is, all its elements have been parsed.
> 
> Element-object van easily be called "elements", when they are part of the
> document.
> 
> Otherwise you should not say "document", but "document-object".
> 
> Elements are not parsed,

Utter nonsense, all of the above.  One ought to use different terms for 
things that are different, and the same terms for things that are the same.  
There is an inherent difference between what constitutes an element and what 
constitutes an element object, and there is a difference between what 
constitutes a document and a document object.  So those two terms are _not_ 
interchangeable in any *reasonable* discussion.

> the source-code is parsed and the used browser-engine then constructs
> element[-object]s as it seems fit, depending on the engine and on the
> constraints of the interface (monitor, sound, etc) [size, touchability,
> colours, smartphone, blind-aid touch display, etc]

“browser-engine” is not an adequate term.  And constructed are element 
objects, not “element[-objects]”.  As for the rest, tell me something I do 
not know yet.
 
> Also, Thomas, there can also be elements that start existing minutes after
> the loading has ended, mostly as a result of a user or time-out initiated
> event.

You have not a shadow of a bit of a clue what you are talking about; you are 
just parroting what you have heard.  Probably someone has told you this 
before.

Unsurprisingly, none of what you said refutes any of my arguments.  Either 
because you have not even read or understood what I said; or you have, but, 
trolling, you refuse to accept (the truth of) it.

There is no advantage in continuing from here, so unless you provide at 
least *some* substance, it is EOD for me.

-- 
PointedEars

Twitter: @PointedEars2
Please do not Cc: me. / Bitte keine Kopien per E-Mail.

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FAQ Topic - Why does my code fail to access an element? (2013-01-26) "FAQ server" <javascript@dotinternet.be> - 2013-01-26 00:00 +0000
  Re: FAQ Topic - Why does my code fail to access an element? (2013-01-26) Dr J R Stockton <reply1300@merlyn.demon.co.uk.invalid> - 2013-01-27 19:49 +0000
    Re: FAQ Topic - Why does my code fail to access an element? (2013-01-26) "Evertjan." <exxjxw.hannivoort@inter.nl.net> - 2013-01-28 01:32 +0100
      Re: FAQ Topic - Why does my code fail to access an element? (2013-01-26) Richard Yates <richard@yatesguitar.com> - 2013-01-27 19:16 -0800
        Re: FAQ Topic - Why does my code fail to access an element? (2013-01-26) "Evertjan." <exxjxw.hannivoort@inter.nl.net> - 2013-01-28 11:58 +0100
      Re: FAQ Topic - Why does my code fail to access an element? (2013-01-26) Dr J R Stockton <reply1300@merlyn.demon.co.uk.invalid> - 2013-01-29 23:12 +0000
        Re: FAQ Topic - Why does my code fail to access an element? (2013-01-26) Gene Wirchenko <genew@telus.net> - 2013-01-29 16:45 -0800
        Re: FAQ Topic - Why does my code fail to access an element? (2013-01-26) Andrew Poulos <ap_prog@hotmail.com> - 2013-01-30 14:38 +1100
          Re: FAQ Topic - Why does my code fail to access an element? (2013-01-26) "Evertjan." <exxjxw.hannivoort@inter.nl.net> - 2013-01-30 09:52 +0100
        Re: FAQ Topic - Why does my code fail to access an element? (2013-01-26) "Evertjan." <exxjxw.hannivoort@inter.nl.net> - 2013-01-30 09:31 +0100
    Re: FAQ Topic - Why does my code fail to access an element? (2013-01-26) Andrew Poulos <ap_prog@hotmail.com> - 2013-01-28 21:55 +1100
      Re: FAQ Topic - Why does my code fail to access an element? (2013-01-26) "Evertjan." <exxjxw.hannivoort@inter.nl.net> - 2013-01-28 16:16 +0100
        Re: FAQ Topic - Why does my code fail to access an element? (2013-01-26) Andrew Poulos <ap_prog@hotmail.com> - 2013-01-29 08:35 +1100
          Re: FAQ Topic - Why does my code fail to access an element? (2013-01-26) Thomas 'PointedEars' Lahn <PointedEars@web.de> - 2013-01-28 23:40 +0100
            Re: FAQ Topic - Why does my code fail to access an element? (2013-01-26) "Evertjan." <exxjxw.hannivoort@inter.nl.net> - 2013-01-29 00:21 +0100
              Re: FAQ Topic - Why does my code fail to access an element? (2013-01-26) Thomas 'PointedEars' Lahn <PointedEars@web.de> - 2013-01-29 00:53 +0100
                Re: FAQ Topic - Why does my code fail to access an element? (2013-01-26) "Evertjan." <exxjxw.hannivoort@inter.nl.net> - 2013-01-29 21:24 +0100
                Re: FAQ Topic - Why does my code fail to access an element? (2013-01-26) John G Harris <niam@jghnorth.org.uk.invalid> - 2013-01-30 14:31 +0000
                Re: FAQ Topic - Why does my code fail to access an element? (2013-01-26) "Evertjan." <exxjxw.hannivoort@inter.nl.net> - 2013-01-30 20:22 +0100
                Re: FAQ Topic - Why does my code fail to access an element? (2013-01-26) John G Harris <niam@jghnorth.org.uk.invalid> - 2013-01-31 10:55 +0000
                Re: FAQ Topic - Why does my code fail to access an element? (2013-01-26) "Evertjan." <exxjxw.hannivoort@inter.nl.net> - 2013-01-31 22:42 +0100
                Re: FAQ Topic - Why does my code fail to access an element? (2013-01-26) John G Harris <niam@jghnorth.org.uk.invalid> - 2013-02-01 10:55 +0000
                Re: FAQ Topic - Why does my code fail to access an element? (2013-01-26) "Evertjan." <exxjxw.hannivoort@inter.nl.net> - 2013-02-01 16:03 +0100
                Re: FAQ Topic - Why does my code fail to access an element? (2013-01-26) Dr J R Stockton <reply1300@merlyn.demon.co.uk.invalid> - 2013-01-30 15:09 +0000
          Re: FAQ Topic - Why does my code fail to access an element? (2013-01-26) "Evertjan." <exxjxw.hannivoort@inter.nl.net> - 2013-01-29 00:03 +0100
    Re: FAQ Topic - Why does my code fail to access an element? (2013-01-26) John G Harris <niam@jghnorth.org.invalid> - 2013-01-29 10:10 +0000
      Re: FAQ Topic - Why does my code fail to access an element? (2013-01-26) Dr J R Stockton <reply1300@merlyn.demon.co.uk.invalid> - 2013-01-30 15:14 +0000
        Re: FAQ Topic - Why does my code fail to access an element? (2013-01-26) John G Harris <niam@jghnorth.org.uk.invalid> - 2013-01-31 10:50 +0000
          Re: FAQ Topic - Why does my code fail to access an element? (2013-01-26) Dr J R Stockton <reply1300@merlyn.demon.co.uk.invalid> - 2013-02-01 23:29 +0000
            Re: FAQ Topic - Why does my code fail to access an element? (2013-01-26) John G Harris <niam@jghnorth.org.uk.invalid> - 2013-02-02 11:10 +0000
              Re: FAQ Topic - Why does my code fail to access an element? (2013-01-26) Dr J R Stockton <reply1300@merlyn.demon.co.uk.invalid> - 2013-02-03 19:39 +0000
                Re: FAQ Topic - Why does my code fail to access an element? (2013-01-26) Christoph Becker <cmbecker69@gmx.de> - 2013-02-04 01:56 +0100
                Re: FAQ Topic - Why does my code fail to access an element? (2013-01-26) Dr J R Stockton <reply1300@merlyn.demon.co.uk.invalid> - 2013-02-06 16:08 +0000

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