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| Started by | rdelaney2001@gmail.com |
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| First post | 2015-09-01 15:26 -0700 |
| Last post | 2015-09-24 12:04 -0400 |
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questions re Javascript rdelaney2001@gmail.com - 2015-09-01 15:26 -0700
Re: questions re Javascript Martin Gregorie <martin@address-in-sig.invalid> - 2015-09-01 23:26 +0000
Re: questions re Javascript Eternal Hope <laughingspam99@gmail.com> - 2015-09-02 10:00 +0100
Re: questions re Javascript e.d.programmer@gmail.com - 2015-09-02 05:32 -0700
Re: questions re Javascript Arne Vajhøj <arne@vajhoej.dk> - 2015-09-03 20:17 -0400
Re: questions re Javascript e.d.programmer@gmail.com - 2015-09-04 05:33 -0700
Re: questions re Javascript Arne Vajhøj <arne@vajhoej.dk> - 2015-10-05 22:42 -0400
Re: questions re Javascript Arne Vajhøj <arne@vajhoej.dk> - 2015-09-01 20:00 -0400
Re: questions re Javascript Eternal Hope <laughingspam99@gmail.com> - 2015-09-05 20:40 +0100
Re: questions re Javascript Lew <lewbloch@gmail.com> - 2015-09-23 16:10 -0700
Re: questions re Javascript Eternal Hope <laughingspam99@gmail.com> - 2015-09-24 10:40 +0100
Re: questions re Javascript Martin Gregorie <martin@address-in-sig.invalid> - 2015-09-24 11:21 +0000
Re: questions re Javascript Eternal Hope <laughingspam99@gmail.com> - 2015-09-24 20:10 +0100
Re: questions re Javascript Lew <lewbloch@gmail.com> - 2015-09-24 13:18 -0700
Re: questions re Javascript Jerry Stuckle <jstucklex@attglobal.net> - 2015-09-24 19:40 -0400
Re: questions re Javascript Martin Gregorie <martin@address-in-sig.invalid> - 2015-09-25 01:15 +0000
Re: questions re Javascript Jerry Stuckle <jstucklex@attglobal.net> - 2015-09-24 22:25 -0400
Re: questions re Javascript Eternal Hope <laughingspam99@gmail.com> - 2015-09-25 03:46 +0100
Re: questions re Javascript Jerry Stuckle <jstucklex@attglobal.net> - 2015-09-25 09:59 -0400
Re: questions re Javascript Eternal Hope <laughingspam99@gmail.com> - 2015-09-25 15:32 +0100
Re: questions re Javascript Lew <lewbloch@gmail.com> - 2015-10-02 13:02 -0700
Re: questions re Javascript Jerry Stuckle <jstucklex@attglobal.net> - 2015-10-02 16:24 -0400
Re: questions re Javascript Arne Vajhøj <arne@vajhoej.dk> - 2015-10-02 23:02 -0400
Re: questions re Javascript Eternal Hope <laughingspam99@gmail.com> - 2015-10-03 13:30 +0100
Re: questions re Javascript Lew <lewbloch@gmail.com> - 2015-10-04 21:31 -0700
Re: questions re Javascript Eternal Hope <laughingspam99@gmail.com> - 2015-10-05 07:48 +0100
Re: questions re Javascript Arne Vajhøj <arne@vajhoej.dk> - 2015-10-05 20:53 -0400
Re: questions re Javascript Jerry Stuckle <jstucklex@attglobal.net> - 2015-10-03 10:46 -0400
Re: questions re Javascript Arne Vajhøj <arne@vajhoej.dk> - 2015-10-05 21:00 -0400
Re: questions re Javascript Jerry Stuckle <jstucklex@attglobal.net> - 2015-10-05 21:19 -0400
Re: questions re Javascript Arne Vajhøj <arne@vajhoej.dk> - 2015-10-05 22:26 -0400
Re: questions re Javascript Eternal Hope <laughingspam99@gmail.com> - 2015-09-25 15:32 +0100
Re: questions re Javascript Eric Sosman <esosman@comcast-dot-net.invalid> - 2015-09-24 16:58 -0400
Re: questions re Javascript Martin Gregorie <martin@address-in-sig.invalid> - 2015-09-24 21:45 +0000
Re: questions re Javascript Jeff Higgins <jeff@invalid.invalid> - 2015-09-24 18:27 -0400
Re: questions re Javascript Jerry Stuckle <jstucklex@attglobal.net> - 2015-09-24 19:53 -0400
Re: questions re Javascript Arne Vajhøj <arne@vajhoej.dk> - 2015-09-24 22:03 -0400
Re: questions re Javascript Jerry Stuckle <jstucklex@attglobal.net> - 2015-09-24 22:34 -0400
Re: questions re Javascript Arne Vajhøj <arne@vajhoej.dk> - 2015-09-24 22:46 -0400
Re: questions re Javascript Jerry Stuckle <jstucklex@attglobal.net> - 2015-09-25 09:56 -0400
Re: questions re Javascript Eric Sosman <esosman@comcast-dot-net.invalid> - 2015-09-25 10:15 -0400
Re: questions re Javascript Jerry Stuckle <jstucklex@attglobal.net> - 2015-09-25 11:44 -0400
Re: questions re Javascript Eric Sosman <esosman@comcast-dot-net.invalid> - 2015-09-25 14:09 -0400
Re: questions re Javascript Jerry Stuckle <jstucklex@attglobal.net> - 2015-09-25 15:15 -0400
Re: questions re Javascript Arne Vajhøj <arne@vajhoej.dk> - 2015-09-27 20:45 -0400
Re: questions re Javascript Jerry Stuckle <jstucklex@attglobal.net> - 2015-09-27 22:48 -0400
Re: questions re Javascript Martin Gregorie <martin@address-in-sig.invalid> - 2015-09-28 03:29 +0000
Re: questions re Javascript Jerry Stuckle <jstucklex@attglobal.net> - 2015-09-28 00:02 -0400
Re: questions re Javascript Martin Gregorie <martin@address-in-sig.invalid> - 2015-09-28 11:33 +0000
Re: questions re Javascript Jerry Stuckle <jstucklex@attglobal.net> - 2015-09-28 10:44 -0400
Re: questions re Javascript Arne Vajhøj <arne@vajhoej.dk> - 2015-09-27 20:42 -0400
Re: questions re Javascript Jerry Stuckle <jstucklex@attglobal.net> - 2015-09-27 22:51 -0400
Re: questions re Javascript Arne Vajhøj <arne@vajhoej.dk> - 2015-09-27 20:38 -0400
Re: questions re Javascript Jerry Stuckle <jstucklex@attglobal.net> - 2015-09-27 22:59 -0400
Re: questions re Javascript Arne Vajhøj <arne@vajhoej.dk> - 2015-10-02 22:47 -0400
Re: questions re Javascript Jerry Stuckle <jstucklex@attglobal.net> - 2015-10-03 10:48 -0400
Re: questions re Javascript Arne Vajhøj <arne@vajhoej.dk> - 2015-10-02 22:53 -0400
Re: questions re Javascript Jerry Stuckle <jstucklex@attglobal.net> - 2015-10-03 10:52 -0400
Re: questions re Javascript Arne Vajhøj <arne@vajhoej.dk> - 2015-10-05 21:03 -0400
Re: questions re Javascript Jerry Stuckle <jstucklex@attglobal.net> - 2015-10-05 21:25 -0400
Re: questions re Javascript Arne Vajhøj <arne@vajhoej.dk> - 2015-10-05 21:41 -0400
Re: questions re Javascript Jerry Stuckle <jstucklex@attglobal.net> - 2015-10-05 22:11 -0400
Re: questions re Javascript Arne Vajhøj <arne@vajhoej.dk> - 2015-10-05 22:19 -0400
Re: questions re Javascript Jerry Stuckle <jstucklex@attglobal.net> - 2015-10-05 22:27 -0400
Re: questions re Javascript Jeff Higgins <jeff@invalid.invalid> - 2015-09-24 22:30 -0400
Re: questions re Javascript Jerry Stuckle <jstucklex@attglobal.net> - 2015-09-24 22:42 -0400
Re: Aho, A. V., & Ullman, J. D. (1972). The theory of parsing, translation, and compiling. Englewood Cliffs, N.J: Prentice-Hall. Jeff Higgins <jeff@invalid.invalid> - 2015-09-24 23:26 -0400
Re: questions re Javascript Arne Vajhøj <arne@vajhoej.dk> - 2015-09-24 23:07 -0400
Re: questions re Javascript Jeff Higgins <jeff@invalid.invalid> - 2015-09-24 23:55 -0400
Re: questions re Javascript Arne Vajhøj <arne@vajhoej.dk> - 2015-09-27 20:46 -0400
Re: questions re Javascript e.d.programmer@gmail.com - 2015-09-25 05:20 -0700
Re: questions re Javascript Arne Vajhøj <arne@vajhoej.dk> - 2015-09-27 20:54 -0400
Re: questions re Javascript Jerry Stuckle <jstucklex@attglobal.net> - 2015-09-27 23:05 -0400
Re: questions re Javascript Arne Vajhøj <arne@vajhoej.dk> - 2015-10-02 22:36 -0400
Re: questions re Javascript Jerry Stuckle <jstucklex@attglobal.net> - 2015-10-03 10:57 -0400
Re: questions re Javascript Arne Vajhøj <arne@vajhoej.dk> - 2015-10-05 21:10 -0400
Re: questions re Javascript Jerry Stuckle <jstucklex@attglobal.net> - 2015-10-05 21:27 -0400
Re: questions re Javascript Jerry Stuckle <jstucklex@attglobal.net> - 2015-09-27 23:19 -0400
Re: questions re Javascript Eternal Hope <laughingspam99@gmail.com> - 2015-09-25 03:46 +0100
Re: questions re Javascript Arne Vajhøj <arne@vajhoej.dk> - 2015-09-24 23:35 -0400
Re: questions re Javascript Lew <lewbloch@gmail.com> - 2015-09-24 13:10 -0700
Re: questions re Javascript Jerry Stuckle <jstucklex@attglobal.net> - 2015-09-24 19:55 -0400
Re: questions re Javascript Martin Gregorie <martin@address-in-sig.invalid> - 2015-09-25 00:48 +0000
Re: questions re Javascript Jerry Stuckle <jstucklex@attglobal.net> - 2015-09-24 20:55 -0400
Re: questions re Javascript Martin Gregorie <martin@address-in-sig.invalid> - 2015-09-25 11:17 +0000
Re: questions re Javascript Eternal Hope <laughingspam99@gmail.com> - 2015-09-25 12:30 +0100
Re: questions re Javascript Martin Gregorie <martin@address-in-sig.invalid> - 2015-09-25 17:00 +0000
Re: questions re Javascript Jeff Higgins <jeff@invalid.invalid> - 2015-09-25 14:03 -0400
Re: questions re Javascript Jeff Higgins <jeff@invalid.invalid> - 2015-09-25 14:14 -0400
Re: questions re Javascript Martin Gregorie <martin@address-in-sig.invalid> - 2015-09-25 19:59 +0000
Re: questions re Javascript Jeff Higgins <jeff@invalid.invalid> - 2015-09-25 17:13 -0400
Re: questions re Javascript Martin Gregorie <martin@address-in-sig.invalid> - 2015-09-25 22:15 +0000
Re: questions re Javascript Lew <lewbloch@gmail.com> - 2015-10-02 13:07 -0700
Re: questions re Javascript Eternal Hope <laughingspam99@gmail.com> - 2015-10-03 16:48 +0100
Re: questions re Javascript Jerry Stuckle <jstucklex@attglobal.net> - 2015-09-25 10:02 -0400
Re: questions re Javascript Martin Gregorie <martin@address-in-sig.invalid> - 2015-09-25 17:32 +0000
Re: questions re Javascript Eternal Hope <laughingspam99@gmail.com> - 2015-09-25 03:45 +0100
Re: questions re Javascript Jerry Stuckle <jstucklex@attglobal.net> - 2015-09-25 10:13 -0400
Re: questions re Javascript Arne Vajhøj <arne@vajhoej.dk> - 2015-09-24 21:58 -0400
Re: questions re Javascript Arne Vajhøj <arne@vajhoej.dk> - 2015-09-24 22:34 -0400
Re: questions re Javascript Jerry Stuckle <jstucklex@attglobal.net> - 2015-09-24 22:35 -0400
Re: questions re Javascript Arne Vajhøj <arne@vajhoej.dk> - 2015-09-24 22:51 -0400
Re: questions re Javascript Arne Vajhøj <arne@vajhoej.dk> - 2015-09-24 23:00 -0400
Re: questions re Javascript Jerry Stuckle <jstucklex@attglobal.net> - 2015-09-25 10:17 -0400
Re: questions re Javascript Tim Slattery <tim@risingdove.com> - 2015-09-24 12:04 -0400
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| From | Jerry Stuckle <jstucklex@attglobal.net> |
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| Date | 2015-09-24 22:35 -0400 |
| Message-ID | <mu2bq5$geu$2@dont-email.me> |
| In reply to | #32665 |
On 9/24/2015 9:58 PM, Arne Vajhøj wrote: > On 9/24/2015 7:55 PM, Jerry Stuckle wrote: >> On 9/24/2015 4:10 PM, Lew wrote: >>> On Thursday, September 24, 2015 at 2:40:16 AM UTC-7, Eternal Hope wrote: >>>> On 24/09/2015 00:10, Lew wrote: >>>>> On Saturday, September 5, 2015 at 12:40:19 PM UTC-7, Eternal Hope >>>>> wrote: >>>>>> ... technically Java is also an interpreted language although >>>>>> optimizations like Just In Time compilers tend to blur the >>>>>> distinction >>>>>> somewhat. >>>>> >>>>> "Technically" Java is a compiled language. >>>> >>>> Ambiguous. >>> >>> Not at all. >>> >>> What is "javac"? >> >> Not a compiler as known outside of the Java world. It only creates >> bytecode, not an executable file. > > Similar to: > > C# compiler that compiles C# code to MSIL byte code > UCSD Pascal compiler that compiles Pascal code to p-code byte code > Hip Hop compiler that compiles PHP to Hip Hop byte code > > Calling something that compiles to byte code is not a Java world > thing - it is quite common - and have been used many years > before Java was invented. > > Arne > > > Actually, C# can be compiled to machine code. It just needs the .NET framework installed, also. But if you understood C#, you wouldn't make such a stoopid claim. -- ================== Remove the "x" from my email address Jerry Stuckle jstucklex@attglobal.net ==================
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| From | Arne Vajhøj <arne@vajhoej.dk> |
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| Date | 2015-09-24 22:51 -0400 |
| Message-ID | <mu2csa$ng0$1@speranza.aioe.org> |
| In reply to | #32671 |
On 9/24/2015 10:35 PM, Jerry Stuckle wrote: > On 9/24/2015 9:58 PM, Arne Vajhøj wrote: >> On 9/24/2015 7:55 PM, Jerry Stuckle wrote: >>> On 9/24/2015 4:10 PM, Lew wrote: >>>> On Thursday, September 24, 2015 at 2:40:16 AM UTC-7, Eternal Hope wrote: >>>>> On 24/09/2015 00:10, Lew wrote: >>>>>> On Saturday, September 5, 2015 at 12:40:19 PM UTC-7, Eternal Hope >>>>>> wrote: >>>>>>> ... technically Java is also an interpreted language although >>>>>>> optimizations like Just In Time compilers tend to blur the >>>>>>> distinction >>>>>>> somewhat. >>>>>> >>>>>> "Technically" Java is a compiled language. >>>>> >>>>> Ambiguous. >>>> >>>> Not at all. >>>> >>>> What is "javac"? >>> >>> Not a compiler as known outside of the Java world. It only creates >>> bytecode, not an executable file. >> >> Similar to: >> >> C# compiler that compiles C# code to MSIL byte code >> UCSD Pascal compiler that compiles Pascal code to p-code byte code >> Hip Hop compiler that compiles PHP to Hip Hop byte code >> >> Calling something that compiles to byte code is not a Java world >> thing - it is quite common - and have been used many years >> before Java was invented. >> > > Actually, C# can be compiled to machine code. It just needs the .NET > framework installed, also. > > But if you understood C#, you wouldn't make such a stoopid claim. The C# compiler always compile to MSIL byte code. Which you can easily verify by running ILDASM on the output. Arne
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| From | Arne Vajhøj <arne@vajhoej.dk> |
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| Date | 2015-09-24 23:00 -0400 |
| Message-ID | <mu2dcc$oem$1@speranza.aioe.org> |
| In reply to | #32677 |
On 9/24/2015 10:51 PM, Arne Vajhøj wrote: > On 9/24/2015 10:35 PM, Jerry Stuckle wrote: >> On 9/24/2015 9:58 PM, Arne Vajhøj wrote: >>> On 9/24/2015 7:55 PM, Jerry Stuckle wrote: >>>> Not a compiler as known outside of the Java world. It only creates >>>> bytecode, not an executable file. >>> >>> Similar to: >>> >>> C# compiler that compiles C# code to MSIL byte code >>> UCSD Pascal compiler that compiles Pascal code to p-code byte code >>> Hip Hop compiler that compiles PHP to Hip Hop byte code >>> >>> Calling something that compiles to byte code is not a Java world >>> thing - it is quite common - and have been used many years >>> before Java was invented. >>> >> >> Actually, C# can be compiled to machine code. It just needs the .NET >> framework installed, also. >> >> But if you understood C#, you wouldn't make such a stoopid claim. > > The C# compiler always compile to MSIL byte code. > > Which you can easily verify by running ILDASM on the > output. Or one can read the C# specification. Let me make a few quotes: ... When C# programs are compiled, they are physically packaged into assemblies. Assemblies typically have the file extension .exe or .dll, depending on whether they implement applications or libraries. ... Assemblies contain executable code in the form of Intermediate Language (IL) instructions, and symbolic information in the form of metadata. Before it is executed, the IL code in an assembly is automatically converted to processor-specific code by the Just-In-Time (JIT) compiler of .NET Common Language Runtime. ... You like to talk about your many years of programming experience - did those include such exotic activities as reading specifications to understand how things are supposed to work? Arne
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| From | Jerry Stuckle <jstucklex@attglobal.net> |
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| Date | 2015-09-25 10:17 -0400 |
| Message-ID | <mu3kuf$ih0$1@dont-email.me> |
| In reply to | #32678 |
On 9/24/2015 11:00 PM, Arne Vajhøj wrote: > On 9/24/2015 10:51 PM, Arne Vajhøj wrote: >> On 9/24/2015 10:35 PM, Jerry Stuckle wrote: >>> On 9/24/2015 9:58 PM, Arne Vajhøj wrote: >>>> On 9/24/2015 7:55 PM, Jerry Stuckle wrote: >>>>> Not a compiler as known outside of the Java world. It only creates >>>>> bytecode, not an executable file. >>>> >>>> Similar to: >>>> >>>> C# compiler that compiles C# code to MSIL byte code >>>> UCSD Pascal compiler that compiles Pascal code to p-code byte code >>>> Hip Hop compiler that compiles PHP to Hip Hop byte code >>>> >>>> Calling something that compiles to byte code is not a Java world >>>> thing - it is quite common - and have been used many years >>>> before Java was invented. >>>> >>> >>> Actually, C# can be compiled to machine code. It just needs the .NET >>> framework installed, also. >>> >>> But if you understood C#, you wouldn't make such a stoopid claim. >> >> The C# compiler always compile to MSIL byte code. >> >> Which you can easily verify by running ILDASM on the >> output. > > Or one can read the C# specification. > > Let me make a few quotes: > > ... > When C# programs are compiled, they are physically packaged into > assemblies. Assemblies typically have the file extension .exe or .dll, > depending on whether they implement applications or libraries. > ... > Assemblies contain executable code in the form of Intermediate Language > (IL) instructions, and symbolic information in the form of metadata. > Before it is executed, the IL code in an assembly is automatically > converted to processor-specific code by the Just-In-Time (JIT) compiler > of .NET Common Language Runtime. > ... > > You like to talk about your many years of programming experience - did > those include such exotic activities as reading specifications > to understand how things are supposed to work? > > Arne > > Yes. It's too bad you don't understand the specifications. But then you've shown this propensity multiple times, arguing with many people more knowledgeable than you. And each time you only end up making a bigger fool of yourself. C# can also be compiled into executable code. And the .NET framework can be called from other languages. -- ================== Remove the "x" from my email address Jerry Stuckle jstucklex@attglobal.net ==================
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| From | Tim Slattery <tim@risingdove.com> |
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| Date | 2015-09-24 12:04 -0400 |
| Message-ID | <5g780b5efh990r1t37cuhakjid1co0gorc@4ax.com> |
| In reply to | #32455 |
rdelaney2001@gmail.com wrote: >I'm trying to get a handle in what Javascript is, isn't, >what it does.... > >Is it a language, or a set of library routines? If >the latter, how are they accessed? It's a language. And it has nothing whatsoever to do with Java, so this post is off topic in this group. >Is it used, or useful, for anything besides hovering >the cursor over an image on a Web page? It's used primarily (but not exclusively) in browsers. All kinds of things are done with it, from checking form input to enabling video playback (with HTML5). >What is its relation to Java, as a plug-in? Are they >independent? Does Javascript execute/reside 'inside' >Java, so to speak? As I said earlier, it has no relation to Java, except a similar name. >What are the limitations of the language, in terms of >hardware, memory access, security, etc.? It depends on the environment where it runs. -- Tim Slattery tim <at> risingdove <dot> com
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