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  Re: Microsoft Word as a Java-IDE Eric Sosman <esosman@comcast-dot-net.invalid> - 2015-07-03 15:16 -0400
    Re: Microsoft Word as a Java-IDE Jerry Stuckle <jstucklex@attglobal.net> - 2015-07-03 16:30 -0400
      Re: Microsoft Word as a Java-IDE e.d.programmer@gmail.com - 2015-07-07 05:24 -0700
        Re: Microsoft Word as a Java-IDE Jerry Stuckle <jstucklex@attglobal.net> - 2015-07-07 11:43 -0400

#31945 — Re: Microsoft Word as a Java-IDE

On 7/3/2015 1:49 PM, Stefan Ram wrote:
>[...]
>    One might extend this in the direction of »literal programming«,
> [...]

     s/literal/literate/

     Both words descend ultimately from the Latin "littera" meaning
"letter," both in the sense of "glyph" and of "epistle."  But in
English

     - "literal" means "as written in Scripture" or "like whut it sez"

     - "literate" means "lettered" as in "able to read and write" or
       "educated, cultured"

     Java's much easier than English.

     Oh, yeah: "liter" means "a little more than a quart" or "a little
less than a quart," depending on whether the Atlantic is to your East
or your West.  That's known as "spatial relativity."

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#31947

On 7/3/2015 3:16 PM, Eric Sosman wrote:
> 
>     Java's much easier than English.
>

ANYTHING is much easier than English! :)

I truly feel sorry for those who have to learn English as a second
language.  It's hard enough for us native speakers!

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On Friday, July 3, 2015 at 4:30:34 PM UTC-4, Jerry Stuckle wrote:
> On 7/3/2015 3:16 PM, Eric Sosman wrote:
> > 
> >     Java's much easier than English.
> >
> 
> ANYTHING is much easier than English! :)
> 
> I truly feel sorry for those who have to learn English as a second
> language.  It's hard enough for us native speakers!
> 
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> Jerry Stuckle
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English does have a lot of funny rules for people to get wrong, but it does have one word for 'the' which I think would make it easier.  I don't know what it's like for a beginner since I've learned it all my life, but Spanish, German, and French all seem harder since you have to learn the gender of every inanimate object.

As for the Java, you can give someone a basic grasp of the language in 2 weeks.  To make anyone an expert in 2 weeks would take some pretty intense training, and they should have to already be an expert in something very similar.

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#31974

On 7/7/2015 8:24 AM, e.d.programmer@gmail.com wrote:
> On Friday, July 3, 2015 at 4:30:34 PM UTC-4, Jerry Stuckle wrote:
>> On 7/3/2015 3:16 PM, Eric Sosman wrote:
>>>
>>>     Java's much easier than English.
>>>
>>
>> ANYTHING is much easier than English! :)
>>
>> I truly feel sorry for those who have to learn English as a second
>> language.  It's hard enough for us native speakers!
>>
> 
> English does have a lot of funny rules for people to get wrong, but it does have one word for 'the' which I think would make it easier.  I don't know what it's like for a beginner since I've learned it all my life, but Spanish, German, and French all seem harder since you have to learn the gender of every inanimate object.
> 
> As for the Java, you can give someone a basic grasp of the language in 2 weeks.  To make anyone an expert in 2 weeks would take some pretty intense training, and they should have to already be an expert in something very similar.
> 

I never said these classes (which were one week long, BTW - not two)
made anyone an expert in anything.  That takes months of constant use in
any language.

But a one week course did provide enough background for the students to
become fluent enough to write usable code.  It also provided them with
background of the most common libraries and showed how to find
documentation on things not otherwise covered.

When they get out of the course, they could write a lot of code on their
own.  Of course, like anyone new to any language, they would progress
more quickly with someone helping them over some humps.  And they
wouldn't be writing massive projects like Eclipse.  But they were quite
productive.

Yes, they were intense.  But we also had them writing their first "Hello
World" program within a couple of hours, and by the end of the first day
they had the basics of classes, attributes and members down and were
writing programs with multiple classes, using appropriate access modifiers.

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