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  java code "jay'el antonio" <jlantonio10@gmail.com> - 2014-02-20 16:03 -0800
    Re: java code Stuart <DerTopper@web.de> - 2014-02-21 14:29 +0100
      Re: java code Joshua Cranmer 🐧 <Pidgeot18@verizon.invalid> - 2014-02-22 01:10 -0600
        Re: java code Jan Burse <janburse@fastmail.fm> - 2014-02-22 12:36 +0100
        Re: java code Stuart <DerTopper@web.de> - 2014-02-22 13:57 +0100
          Re: java code Joshua Cranmer 🐧 <Pidgeot18@verizon.invalid> - 2014-02-22 12:05 -0600
            Re: java code Stuart <DerTopper@web.de> - 2014-02-22 20:02 +0100
      Re: java code Kevin McMurtrie <mcmurtrie@pixelmemory.us> - 2014-02-23 00:52 -0800
    Re: java code Roedy Green <see_website@mindprod.com.invalid> - 2014-02-21 08:55 -0800
    Re: java code lipska the kat <lipskathekat@example.com> - 2014-02-23 09:25 +0000
      Re: java code Lew <lewbloch@gmail.com> - 2014-02-23 20:47 -0800
        Re: java code lipska the kat <lipskathekat@example.com> - 2014-02-24 09:06 +0000
          Re: java code Arne Vajhøj <arne@vajhoej.dk> - 2014-02-24 19:23 -0500
            Re: java code lipska the kat <lipskathekat@example.com> - 2014-02-25 09:22 +0000
              Re: java code Lew <lewbloch@gmail.com> - 2014-02-25 15:08 -0800
                Re: java code lipska the kat <lipskathekat@example.com> - 2014-02-26 08:47 +0000
          Re: java code leif.roar@invalid.com (Leif Roar Moldskred) - 2014-02-25 03:56 -0600
      Re: java code Daniel Pitts <newsgroup.nospam@virtualinfinity.net> - 2014-02-25 14:54 -0800
        Re: java code lipska the kat <lipskathekat@example.com> - 2014-02-26 09:07 +0000
          Re: java code Simon Lewis <simonlewis2001@gmail.com> - 2014-02-26 12:40 +0100
        Re: java code lipska the kat <lipskathekat@example.com> - 2014-02-26 14:54 +0000
          Re: java code Simon Lewis <simonlewis2001@gmail.com> - 2014-02-26 16:10 +0100
            Re: java code lipska the kat <lipskathekat@example.com> - 2014-02-26 15:45 +0000
              Re: java code Robert Klemme <shortcutter@googlemail.com> - 2014-02-27 14:01 +0100
              Re: java code Simon Lewis <simonlewis2001@gmail.com> - 2014-02-27 14:48 +0100
                Re: java code leif.roar@invalid.com (Leif Roar Moldskred) - 2014-02-27 09:49 -0600
                Re: java code Joerg Meier <joergmmeier@arcor.de> - 2014-02-27 19:24 +0100
            Re: java code Daniel Pitts <newsgroup.nospam@virtualinfinity.net> - 2014-02-26 12:53 -0800
            Re: java code Lew <lewbloch@gmail.com> - 2014-02-28 16:10 -0800
              Re: java code lipska the kat <lipskathekat@example.com> - 2014-03-01 08:36 +0000
                Re: java code "Qu0ll" <Qu0llSixFour@gmail.com> - 2014-03-01 20:51 +1100
                  Re: java code lipska the kat <lipskathekat@example.com> - 2014-03-01 10:31 +0000
                    Re: java code "Qu0ll" <Qu0llSixFour@gmail.com> - 2014-03-01 21:44 +1100
                      Re: java code lipska the kat <lipskathekat@example.com> - 2014-03-01 10:49 +0000
                        Re: java code "Qu0ll" <Qu0llSixFour@gmail.com> - 2014-03-01 21:58 +1100
                          Re: java code lipska the kat <lipskathekat@example.com> - 2014-03-01 12:00 +0000
                            Re: java code "Qu0ll" <Qu0llSixFour@gmail.com> - 2014-03-02 11:36 +1100
          Re: java code Daniel Pitts <newsgroup.nospam@virtualinfinity.net> - 2014-02-26 12:59 -0800
      Re: java code David Lamb <dalamb@cs.queensu.ca> - 2014-02-28 20:42 -0500
        Re: java code lipska the kat <lipskathekat@example.com> - 2014-03-01 08:58 +0000
          Re: java code "Qu0ll" <Qu0llSixFour@gmail.com> - 2014-03-01 21:00 +1100
            Re: java code lipska the kat <lipskathekat@example.com> - 2014-03-01 10:45 +0000
              Re: java code "Qu0ll" <Qu0llSixFour@gmail.com> - 2014-03-01 22:04 +1100
                Re: java code lipska the kat <lipskathekat@example.com> - 2014-03-01 12:13 +0000
                  Re: java code "Qu0ll" <Qu0llSixFour@gmail.com> - 2014-03-02 11:05 +1100
                    Re: java code lipska the kat <lipskathekat@example.com> - 2014-03-02 08:57 +0000
                      Re: java code "Qu0ll" <Qu0llSixFour@gmail.com> - 2014-03-02 22:02 +1100
                        Re: java code lipska the kat <lipskathekat@example.com> - 2014-03-02 11:57 +0000
                        Re: java code leif.roar@invalid.com (Leif Roar Moldskred) - 2014-03-02 06:57 -0600
          Re: java code David Lamb <dalamb@cs.queensu.ca> - 2014-03-02 15:21 -0500
    Re: java code rossum <rossum48@coldmail.com> - 2014-02-26 22:06 +0000
      Re: java code "Qu0ll" <Qu0llSixFour@gmail.com> - 2014-02-27 14:01 +1100
    Re: java code v_borchert@despammed.com (Volker Borchert) - 2014-03-01 19:52 +0000

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#27630

"lipska the kat"  wrote in message 
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>> Even if you dislike the smartass answers, you shouldn't be answering
>> people's homework questions for them.
>
> Why?

Yep, gotta agree with you on this one Kitty. Why *shouldn't* we do their 
homework for them?

Clearly they are incapable of doing it for themselves.  And if they fail, 
they may never get a job.  And if people like this never got jobs, who would 
you have on your team to make you look good? And anyway, if we don't do it 
for them then I am sure they can find a solution from some other group, 
someone else or copy off their mates.

Why put the poor dears through all that stress?  And when they are presented 
with the solution I am absolutely sure that they will go over it with a 
fine-toothed comb and learn every aspect of software development embodied in 
the code.

Clearly helping such people is a "win win".  I get to show how smart I am 
and they become the world's best programmer as a result.  W00t!

--
And loving it,

-Qu0ll (Rare, not extinct)
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#27633

On 01/03/14 10:00, Qu0ll wrote:
> "lipska the kat"  wrote in message
> news:2tidncX0ksO_PIzOnZ2dnUVZ8tKdnZ2d@bt.com...
>
>>> Even if you dislike the smartass answers, you shouldn't be answering
>>> people's homework questions for them.
>>
>> Why?
>
> Yep, gotta agree with you on this one Kitty. Why *shouldn't* we do their
> homework for them?

Hello again, still cranking up the irritant factor eh, OK, IPOTY 2014 is 
only 8 months away.

Actually,  it can be a real turning point for some, who are obviously 
not as clever as you, to see a solution to a problem that they don't 
have a clue about how to solve.

Just the experience of actually getting something to compile and produce 
the expected output can inspire someone to actually get their head 
around how this works.

How do I know ... I've seen it many times before, help someone over that 
first hurdle and they are away.

Did you read the bit where I said I'd give anyone the benefit of the 
doubt ... once.

Clearly you have never had to ask for help as you are so incredibly 
clever and can learn an entire language simply by glancing at a Hello 
World example. Unfortunately many others are not so fortunate and need a 
bit of a push to get them going.

Is that OK?

<snip>

> Clearly helping such people is a "win win".  I get to show how smart I
> am and they become the world's best programmer as a result.  W00t!

Oh gosh, I've been found out, what other reason could there possibly be?
Qu0ll says so so it must be right.

>
> --
> And loving it,
>
> -Qu0ll (Rare, not extinct)
> _________________________________________________
> Qu0llSixFour@gmail.com
> [Replace the "SixFour" with numbers to email me]


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#27636

"lipska the kat"  wrote in message 
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> Clearly you have never had to ask for help as you are so incredibly clever 
> and can learn an entire language simply by glancing at a Hello World 
> example.

Not true. The "Hello" example is usually sufficient.

> Unfortunately many others are not so fortunate and need a bit of a push to 
> get them going.

Push?  You classify spoon-feeding an answer as a "push".  Or are you 
actually in the habit of physically "pushing" anyone who is "not so 
fortunate"?

> Is that OK?

Yes, I have not problems accepting that there are others not so fortunate.

> Oh gosh, I've been found out, what other reason could there possibly be?

Umm... none actually.

> Qu0ll says so so it must be right.

At least you exhibit a willingness and fair ability to learn.

--
And loving it,

-Qu0ll (Rare, not extinct)
_________________________________________________
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#27638

On 01/03/14 11:04, Qu0ll wrote:
> "lipska the kat"  wrote in message
> news:_NydnQqstcPeJ4zOnZ2dnUVZ8hGdnZ2d@bt.com...
>
>> Clearly you have never had to ask for help as you are so incredibly
>> clever and can learn an entire language simply by glancing at a Hello
>> World example.
>
> Not true. The "Hello" example is usually sufficient.

What is not true? you're making even less sense than normal.
1. You have never had to ask for help.
2. You are incredibly clever
3. You can learn an entire language etc etc

>> Unfortunately many others are not so fortunate and need a bit of a
>> push to get them going.
>
> Push?  You classify spoon-feeding an answer as a "push".  Or are you
> actually in the habit of physically "pushing" anyone who is "not so
> fortunate"?

I thought that might be a bit too subtle for you.

>> Is that OK?
>
> Yes, I have not problems accepting that there are others not so fortunate.

I know, it's hard when you are so far above everyone else in ability to 
drag yourself down to their level but keep trying, you'll get there in 
the end.

>> Oh gosh, I've been found out, what other reason could there possibly be?
>
> Umm... none actually.

How about altruism ... oh, hold on, that implies selflessness, no, 
sorry, my mistake. You have already admitted that you confuse altruism 
with egoism so I can't expect you to make that leap, it's still early 
days and you still have a great deal to learn.

>
>> Qu0ll says so so it must be right.
>
> At least you exhibit a willingness and fair ability to learn.

Are you American?

>
> --
> And loving it,
>
> -Qu0ll (Rare, not extinct)
> _________________________________________________
> Qu0llSixFour@gmail.com
> [Replace the "SixFour" with numbers to email me]


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#27644

"lipska the kat"  wrote in message 
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>>> Clearly you have never had to ask for help as you are so incredibly
>>> clever and can learn an entire language simply by glancing at a Hello
>>> World example.
>>
>> Not true. The "Hello" example is usually sufficient.
>
> What is not true? you're making even less sense than normal.
> 1. You have never had to ask for help.
> 2. You are incredibly clever
> 3. You can learn an entire language etc etc

Gosh, I didn't realise it was going to be so difficult to explain things to 
you Puss.

You do understand Boolean Algebra don't you?  When you evaluate a Boolean 
expression, the fact that it may evaluate to "false" (as in my statement 
"Not true" which implies "false") there may be a number of reasons why.  So, 
I was indicating that your Boolean expression evaluated to "false".  I even 
gave the reason.

Which part is not making sense as you put it?

> I thought that might be a bit too subtle for you.

Oh, so it's a "subtle" push then? Still grounds for dismissal in most places 
where I have worked ;-)

> I know, it's hard when you are so far above everyone else in ability to 
> drag yourself down to their level but keep trying, you'll get there in the 
> end.

Well, like you, they usually try to drag *me* down.

> How about altruism ... oh, hold on, that implies selflessness, no, sorry, 
> my mistake. You have already admitted that you confuse altruism with 
> egoism so I can't expect you to make that leap, it's still early days and 
> you still have a great deal to learn.

Wow, please quote my exact words where I "already admitted that you confuse 
altruism with egoism" because I am not seeing it.

> Are you American?

No, I am a rare, carnivorous native Australian marsupial.  Not sure why 
that's important BTW.

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And loving it,

-Qu0ll (Rare, not extinct)
_________________________________________________
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#27647

On 02/03/14 00:05, Qu0ll wrote:
> "lipska the kat"  wrote in message
> news:pO6dnQ9li4R-U4zOnZ2dnUVZ8r6dnZ2d@bt.com...

<snip>

>> How about altruism ... oh, hold on, that implies selflessness, no,
>> sorry, my mistake. You have already admitted that you confuse altruism
>> with egoism so I can't expect you to make that leap, it's still early
>> days and you still have a great deal to learn.
>
> Wow, please quote my exact words where I "already admitted that you
> confuse altruism with egoism" because I am not seeing it.

You're hard work aren't you? Oh well, in for a penny etc

You said

"Clearly helping such people is a "win win".  I get to show how smart I 
am and they become the world's best programmer as a result."

I said

"Oh gosh, I've been found out, what other reason could there possibly be?"

Do you understand irony?

-----------------------------------------------------------------------
Irony: the expression of one's meaning by using language that normally 
signifies the opposite, typically for humorous or emphatic effect.
-----------------------------------------------------------------------

Obviously not, as you then said

"Umm... none actually"

Do you see it yet? no, OK, step by step then

The "I get to show how smart I am" bit implies egoism on my part
but it could also be seen as altruism

-----------------------------------------------------------------------
Altruism: feelings and behavior that show a desire to help other people 
and a lack of selfishness.
-----------------------------------------------------------------------

I consider my response to the OP to be altruistic, you consider it 
egoism ergo you are confusing altruism with egoism.

Does that make sense now?

>> Are you American?
>
> No, I am a rare, carnivorous native Australian marsupial.

Oh you're *Australian* that explains the negativity, convicts often 
blame the rest of the world for their predicament.

> Not sure why
> that's important BTW.

See above re irony

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#27648

"lipska the kat"  wrote in message 
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> You're hard work aren't you? Oh well, in for a penny etc

<snip>

> Does that make sense now?

No.  In fact your argument is about as bulletproof as someone proving their 
job of removing elephants from the train tunnels of London is effective 
because not one elephant has been spotted there for over a century.  But I 
am sure everyone appreciates how much effort you have put into formulating 
that flimsy argument and how much effort you regularly put into discrediting 
Lew or me or anyone else whose intelligence, knowledge or skills intimidate 
you.

>>> Are you American?
>>
>> No, I am a rare, carnivorous native Australian marsupial.
>
> Oh you're *Australian* that explains the negativity, convicts often blame 
> the rest of the world for their predicament.

Right, so you are not only a troll but also a racist.  You first refer to 
Americans and now make racist remarks about Australians.  What's next in 
your xenophobic kit bag, some reference to Jews and or Godwin's Law?

On the basis of you exposing yourself as a bottom feeder, I will no longer 
reply to any of your posts in this thread or any other unless you limit your 
commentary to issues relating to Java or at the very least refrain from any 
such totally unacceptable comments as those made by you in this post.

--
And loving it,

-Qu0ll (Rare, not extinct)
_________________________________________________
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#27649

On 02/03/14 11:02, Qu0ll wrote:
> "lipska the kat"  wrote in message
> news:9b6dndLs3YIYb4_OnZ2dnUVZ7qOdnZ2d@bt.com...
>
>> You're hard work aren't you? Oh well, in for a penny etc
>
> <snip>
>
>> Does that make sense now?
>
> No.  In fact your argument is about as bulletproof as someone proving
> their job of removing elephants from the train tunnels of London is
> effective because not one elephant has been spotted there for over a
> century.  But I am sure everyone appreciates how much effort you have
> put into formulating that flimsy argument and how much effort you
> regularly put into discrediting Lew or me or anyone else whose
> intelligence, knowledge or skills intimidate you.

Oh dear, you're getting upset now ... touched a nerve have we.

>>>> Are you American?
>>>
>>> No, I am a rare, carnivorous native Australian marsupial.
>>
>> Oh you're *Australian* that explains the negativity, convicts often
>> blame the rest of the world for their predicament.
>
> Right, so you are not only a troll but also a racist.

Ah racism, the last resort of the desperate.
If you had ever experienced true racism you wouldn't class such a 
harmless comment as such ... ever called an Englishman a "Pommie"?
If so you are a racist, but only by your own slightly skewed view of the 
world.

> You first refer
> to Americans

Americans anecdotally don't get irony. The irony of that totally escapes 
you I see.

> and now make racist remarks about Australians.  What's next
> in your xenophobic kit bag, some reference to Jews and or Godwin's Law?

I'll ignore that, it's below even you, I'll put it down to your 
frustration at being consistently and profoundly wrong about so many things.

> On the basis of you exposing yourself as a bottom feeder, I will no
> longer reply to any of your posts in this thread or any other unless you
> limit your commentary to issues relating to Java or at the very least
> refrain from any such totally unacceptable comments as those made by you
> in this post.

I agree, any value there might have been in this exchange has now been 
negated by your descent into insult and name calling, e.g troll, racist, 
bottom feeder etc.

Disappointing but sadly predictable


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#27651

Qu0ll <Qu0llSixFour@gmail.com> wrote:
> 
> On the basis of you exposing yourself as a bottom feeder, I will no longer 
> reply to any of your posts in this thread or any other unless you limit your 
> commentary to issues relating to Java or at the very least refrain from any 
> such totally unacceptable comments as those made by you in this post.

Much obliged. There's little enough Java discussion in the group as is. We
wouldn't want to replace it with incessant trolling and counter-trolling.
So, thank you.

-- 
Leif Roar Moldskred

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#27655

On 01/03/2014 3:58 AM, lipska the kat wrote:
>> Even if you dislike the smartass answers, you shouldn't be answering
>> people's homework questions for them.
>
> Why?

For one thing, he or she probably attends an institution with an 
Academic Integrity code that forbids them asking people to solve their 
homework problems, so you're likely helping someone who is being 
deliberately dishonest from the beginning.

I suspect he or she has access to instructors, teaching assistants, and 
tutors who can spend one-on-one time leading him or her to the right 
insights into solving the problem without actually giving away the whole 
answer. Someone *might* be able to do such a thing online, and IIRC 
someone upthread tried to do so, but face-to-face is usually faster and 
more effective because it's easier to clue in to what's confusing the 
student.

As to your comment upthread that people can gain insight from seeing a 
solution, that may well happen *occasionally* but in my experience 
that's much rarer than a student simply copying the answer and being 
totally unable to cope with similar questions in the future, which is 
the opposite of your intent.

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#27607

On Thu, 20 Feb 2014 16:03:51 -0800 (PST), "jay'el antonio"
<jlantonio10@gmail.com> wrote:

>please someone help me..what is the code of this output program using java
>11
>221
>3321
>44321
>554321
>6654321
>77654321
>887654321
There are an extremely large number of possible programs.  It is not
difficult, with a little thought, to find one of those many programs
for yourself.

Here are some things to think about:

1) Each line after the first is one character longer than the previous
line.  What is the extra character that is added at the right hand end
of the previous line to extend it?  Can you write a method that takes
a string and adds the required additional character to it?

2) Now look at the first part of each string (after the first line),
before the additional character.  How is it derived from the previous
line?  Can you write a method that takes a string and transforms it so
it looks like the first part of the next line?

3) Now think about how to combine the two methods from 1) and 2) into
a program to produce your desired output, given a starting string and
how many lines you want to produce.

4) Code you program.

5) Test your program.  You will almost certainly find errors.  Fix the
errors and retest.  Repeat until your program is working correctly.

6) If you want me to write your program for you, my rates are $300 per
hour.

rossum

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#27609

"rossum"  wrote in message 
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> 6) If you want me to write your program for you, my rates are $300 per
> hour.

I hope that's your discounted rate for helping students.  I personally don't 
get out of bed for less than $10,000 per day ;-)

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#27643

jay'el antonio wrote:
> please someone help me..what is the code of this output program using java
> 11
> 221
> 3321
> 44321
> 554321
> 6654321
> 77654321
> 887654321

please do your homework yourself

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