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| Started by | chrismenifield@gmail.com |
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| First post | 2014-02-12 21:14 -0800 |
| Last post | 2014-02-20 01:04 +1100 |
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I need a Android Programmer chrismenifield@gmail.com - 2014-02-12 21:14 -0800
Re: I need a Android Programmer markspace <markspace@nospam.nospam> - 2014-02-13 08:59 -0800
Re: I need a Android Programmer markspace <markspace@nospam.nospam> - 2014-02-13 09:04 -0800
Re: I need a Android Programmer rossum <rossum48@coldmail.com> - 2014-02-14 12:00 +0000
Re: I need a Android Programmer "Charles Hottel" <chottel@earthlink.net> - 2014-02-14 13:15 -0500
Re: I need a Android Programmer Ali Arif <aaarif321@hotmail.com> - 2014-02-16 15:25 +1100
Re: I need a Android Programmer Joerg Meier <joergmmeier@arcor.de> - 2014-02-16 11:33 +0100
Re: I need a Android Programmer lipska the kat <lipskathekat@example.com> - 2014-02-16 11:01 +0000
Re: I need a Android Programmer Ali Arif <aaarif321@hotmail.com> - 2014-02-18 22:52 +1100
Re: I need a Android Programmer Lew <lewbloch@gmail.com> - 2014-02-18 16:11 -0800
Re: I need a Android Programmer Ali Arif <aaarif321@hotmail.com> - 2014-02-20 01:04 +1100
| From | chrismenifield@gmail.com |
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| Date | 2014-02-12 21:14 -0800 |
| Subject | I need a Android Programmer |
| Message-ID | <b3839548-8a46-416d-ab2e-41e330c285e0@googlegroups.com> |
This is a message for all who's interested. I have a great idea for an app. All the specs for the app are done on paper. It'll be hard work and I can't pay out cash right now. However, if you're interested and know what you're then I'm willing to pay 15% of the overall profit from advertisement from the app for the life of the app. If you want details just post you email address and I'll fill you in a little more.
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| From | markspace <markspace@nospam.nospam> |
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| Date | 2014-02-13 08:59 -0800 |
| Message-ID | <lditlb$jal$1@dont-email.me> |
| In reply to | #27495 |
On 2/13/2014 3:26 AM, Stefan Ram wrote: > > In one of his books, Frank Herbert, author of »Dune«, told > how he had once been approached by a friend who claimed he > (the friend) had a killer idea for a SF story, and offered > to tell it to Herbert. In return, Herbert had to agree that > if he used the idea in a story, he'd split the money from > the story with this fellow. Herbert's response was that > ideas were a dime a dozen; he had more story ideas than he > could ever write in a lifetime. The hard part was the > writing, not the ideas. > > (The preceding paragraph is a near quotation from a blog > whose author I [S.R.] cannot identify univocally, might be: > »veridicus«, »Michael Abrash«, »Rei«, or someone else.) > It was Michael Abrash, from Zen of Graphics Programming, iirc.
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| From | markspace <markspace@nospam.nospam> |
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| Date | 2014-02-13 09:04 -0800 |
| Message-ID | <lditvp$n0r$1@dont-email.me> |
| In reply to | #27495 |
On 2/12/2014 9:14 PM, chrismenifield@gmail.com wrote: > This is a message for all who's interested. I have a great idea for > an app. All the specs for the app are done on paper. It'll be hard > work and I can't pay out cash right now. However, if you're > interested and know what you're then I'm willing to pay 15% of the > overall profit from advertisement from the app for the life of the LOL, "Such a custom as yours I could have any day." Really? Free work up front for 15% of the maybe "profits" afterwards? You'll really have to do better than that, that is just a ludicrous offer. (Replied to publicly for the amusement of the group.)
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| From | rossum <rossum48@coldmail.com> |
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| Date | 2014-02-14 12:00 +0000 |
| Message-ID | <c81sf992j870lri8n48e1pmnjmpkbbtilf@4ax.com> |
| In reply to | #27495 |
On Wed, 12 Feb 2014 21:14:04 -0800 (PST), chrismenifield@gmail.com wrote: >This is a message for all who's interested. I have a great idea for an app. All the specs for the app are done on paper. It'll be hard work and I can't pay out cash right now. However, if you're interested and know what you're then I'm willing to pay 15% of the overall profit from advertisement from the app for the life of the app. If you want details just post you email address and I'll fill you in a little more. 1. Find a free "Teach Yourself Android" course on the net. 2. Learn Android for yourself. 3. Implement your app, and keep 100% of the profits for yourself. rossum
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| From | "Charles Hottel" <chottel@earthlink.net> |
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| Date | 2014-02-14 13:15 -0500 |
| Message-ID | <8redneILWruHwGPPnZ2dnUVZ_sudnZ2d@earthlink.com> |
| In reply to | #27506 |
"rossum" <rossum48@coldmail.com> wrote in message news:c81sf992j870lri8n48e1pmnjmpkbbtilf@4ax.com... > On Wed, 12 Feb 2014 21:14:04 -0800 (PST), chrismenifield@gmail.com > wrote: > >>This is a message for all who's interested. I have a great idea for an >>app. All the specs for the app are done on paper. It'll be hard work and I >>can't pay out cash right now. However, if you're interested and know what >>you're then I'm willing to pay 15% of the overall profit from >>advertisement from the app for the life of the app. If you want details >>just post you email address and I'll fill you in a little more. > 1. Find a free "Teach Yourself Android" course on the net. > > 2. Learn Android for yourself. > > 3. Implement your app, and keep 100% of the profits for yourself. > > rossum Murach's Android Programming by Joel Murach 18 chapters, 702 pages, 307 illustrations Published in September 2013 ISBN 978-1-890774-71-4 http://www.murach.com/books/andp/index.htm
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| From | Ali Arif <aaarif321@hotmail.com> |
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| Date | 2014-02-16 15:25 +1100 |
| Message-ID | <ldpej4$q7a$1@speranza.aioe.org> |
| In reply to | #27495 |
On 2014-02-13 16:14:04 +1100, chrismenifield@gmail.com said: > This is a message for all who's interested. I have a great idea for an > app. All the specs for the app are done on paper. It'll be hard work > and I can't pay out cash right now. However, if you're interested and > know what you're then I'm willing to pay 15% of the overall profit from > advertisement from the app for the life of the app. If you want details > just post you email address and I'll fill you in a little more. Until NDK (C++) arrive, only moron program the Android. It should be easy to still find many cheap moron who do job for less than 15% of nothing.
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| From | Joerg Meier <joergmmeier@arcor.de> |
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| Date | 2014-02-16 11:33 +0100 |
| Message-ID | <1vwyca145du6l.1a85pdmp3xzw1.dlg@40tude.net> |
| In reply to | #27520 |
On Sun, 16 Feb 2014 15:25:09 +1100, Ali Arif wrote: > Until NDK (C++) arrive, only moron program the Android. That's probably one of the dumbest things I've read in this newsgroup. Joerg -- Ich lese meine Emails nicht, replies to Email bleiben also leider ungelesen.
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| From | lipska the kat <lipskathekat@example.com> |
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| Date | 2014-02-16 11:01 +0000 |
| Message-ID | <FYmdnVTu6d7jB53OnZ2dnUVZ8madnZ2d@bt.com> |
| In reply to | #27522 |
On 16/02/14 10:33, Joerg Meier wrote: > On Sun, 16 Feb 2014 15:25:09 +1100, Ali Arif wrote: > >> Until NDK (C++) arrive, only moron program the Android. > > That's probably one of the dumbest things I've read in this newsgroup. > > Joerg > Heh heh, +1 to that https://developer.android.com/tools/sdk/ndk/index.html '... Before downloading the NDK, you should understand that the NDK will not benefit most apps ...' -- Lipska the Kat©: Troll hunter, sandbox destroyer, treacherous feline and farscape dreamer of Aeryn Sun GNU/Linux user #560883 - http://www.linuxcounter.net
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| From | Ali Arif <aaarif321@hotmail.com> |
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| Date | 2014-02-18 22:52 +1100 |
| Message-ID | <ldvhig$64q$1@speranza.aioe.org> |
| In reply to | #27523 |
On 2014-02-16 22:01:17 +1100, lipska the kat said: > On 16/02/14 10:33, Joerg Meier wrote: >> On Sun, 16 Feb 2014 15:25:09 +1100, Ali Arif wrote: >> >>> Until NDK (C++) arrive, only moron program the Android. >> >> That's probably one of the dumbest things I've read in this newsgroup. >> >> Joerg >> > Heh heh, +1 to that > > https://developer.android.com/tools/sdk/ndk/index.html > > '... Before downloading the NDK, you should understand that the NDK > will not benefit most apps ...' Whoever wrote that was truly a moron. Today, huge populations of computers run either IOS or Android and their numbers are growing rapidly. Only a moron would write an application for Android in Java as that would mean that it would have to be rewritten for IOS. By using the NDK you can write most of the functionality in a C++ code base shared with IOS and only use Java or Obj-C only when necessary to bootsrap the C++ stuff. Performance is benefited too in the case of Android.
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| From | Lew <lewbloch@gmail.com> |
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| Date | 2014-02-18 16:11 -0800 |
| Message-ID | <b9f7f147-2b5d-40d7-9bbc-31136302b724@googlegroups.com> |
| In reply to | #27543 |
Ali Arif wrote: >>> Ali Arif wrote: >>>> Until NDK (C++) arrive, only moron program the Android. Such horseshit. > Whoever wrote that was truly a moron. Today, huge populations of You're a piece of work, aren't you, Ali? > computers run either IOS or Android and their numbers are growing > rapidly. Only a moron would write an application for Android in Java You keep using that word. I don't think it means what you think it means. You *do* realize that Android was designed to be programmed in Java, do you not? Java is the native language of Android. Only a moron wouldn't realize that. > as that would mean that it would have to be rewritten for IOS. By Well, duh. The platforms are radically different! Of course apps from one platform have to be rewritten for the other. That's an architecture issue, and the language makes no difference there, as anyone but a moron would know. > using the NDK you can write most of the functionality in a C++ code > base shared with IOS and only use Java or Obj-C only when necessary to You *do* realize that Objective C is the native language of the iOS platform, right? Only a moron wouldn't realize that. > bootsrap the C++ stuff. Performance is benefited too in the case of > Android. Bullshit. -- Lew
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| From | Ali Arif <aaarif321@hotmail.com> |
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| Date | 2014-02-20 01:04 +1100 |
| Message-ID | <le2dkl$sb9$1@speranza.aioe.org> |
| In reply to | #27550 |
Hello, > Ali Arif wrote: >>>> Ali Arif wrote: >>>>> Until NDK (C++) arrive, only moron program the Android. > > Such horseshit. > >> Whoever wrote that was truly a moron. Today, huge populations of > > You're a piece of work, aren't you, Ali? Why thank you. I return the compliment. > >> computers run either IOS or Android and their numbers are growing >> rapidly. Only a moron would write an application for Android in Java > > You keep using that word. I don't think it means what you think it means. > > You *do* realize that Android was designed to be programmed in Java, do > you not? > > Java is the native language of Android. Only a moron wouldn't realize that. Are you arguing that one cannot write Android code in C++? One merely has to tolerate having load the C++ code with a jni Activity adapter and some jni event glue. Game over. > >> as that would mean that it would have to be rewritten for IOS. By > > Well, duh. The platforms are radically different! Of course apps from > one platform > have to be rewritten for the other. That's an architecture issue, and > the language > makes no difference there, as anyone but a moron would know. Yawn. Of course the platforms are different, that is why one would try to ensure that the bulk of the logic is in a common code base independent of the platform. Naturally the portable C++ code contains its own event dispatching and UI rendering (which is done with OpenGL in 2D mode). You can render precisely the same UI on IOS or Android and algorithmically adapt to a device's screen resolution. > >> using the NDK you can write most of the functionality in a C++ code >> base shared with IOS and only use Java or Obj-C only when necessary to > > You *do* realize that Objective C is the native language of the iOS > platform, right? > Only a moron wouldn't realize that. You appear not to know that IOS native code is compiled with Clang which out of the box supports C, Obj-C and C++. In fact one can freely mix all three in the same source code module. You obviously have no experience in this but feel compelled to voice your ignorance regardless. Oh well. > >> bootsrap the C++ stuff. Performance is benefited too in the case of >> Android. > > Bullshit. Oh I see. Let's suppose that one of the jobs of your application is to process 44.1kHz audio data from multiple concurrent audio sources (tracks) and perform some transformation on the data (like a convolution, delay or filter), and then pass the audio to the sound driver. You will also need to render a UI with stuff like real time VU meters and keep up with the video refresh rate. I sure as hell don't want to be doing that in Java on a relatively piss-weak ARM CPU 'cuz you're going to hear lots of clicks and pops and stuttering. Ali Arif
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