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Re: I need a Android Programmer

From Ali Arif <aaarif321@hotmail.com>
Newsgroups comp.lang.java.programmer
Subject Re: I need a Android Programmer
Date 2014-02-20 01:04 +1100
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Hello,


> Ali Arif wrote:
>>>> Ali Arif wrote:
>>>>> Until NDK (C++) arrive, only moron program the Android.
> 
> Such horseshit.

> 
>> Whoever wrote that was truly a moron.  Today, huge populations of
> 
> You're a piece of work, aren't you, Ali?

Why thank you. I return the compliment.

> 
>> computers run either IOS or Android and their numbers are growing
>> rapidly.  Only a moron would write an application for Android in Java
> 
> You keep using that word. I don't think it means what you think it means.
> 
> You *do* realize that Android was designed to be programmed in Java, do 
> you not?
> 
> Java is the native language of Android. Only a moron wouldn't realize that.

Are you arguing that one cannot write Android code in C++?  One merely 
has to tolerate having load the C++ code with a jni Activity adapter 
and some jni event glue. Game over.

> 
>> as that would mean that it would have to be rewritten for IOS.  By
> 
> Well, duh. The platforms are radically different! Of course apps from 
> one platform
> have to be rewritten for the other. That's an architecture issue, and 
> the language
> makes no difference there, as anyone but a moron would know.

Yawn. Of course the platforms are different, that is why one would try 
to ensure that the bulk of the logic is in a common code base 
independent of the platform.

Naturally the portable  C++ code contains its own event dispatching and 
UI rendering (which is done with OpenGL in 2D mode). You can render 
precisely the same UI on IOS or Android and algorithmically adapt to a 
device's screen resolution.


> 
>> using the NDK you can write most of the functionality in a C++ code
>> base shared with IOS and only use Java or Obj-C only when necessary to
> 
> You *do* realize that Objective C is the native language of the iOS 
> platform, right?
> Only a moron wouldn't realize that.

You appear not to know that IOS native code is compiled with Clang 
which out of the box supports C, Obj-C and C++. In fact one can freely 
mix all three in the same source code module.  You obviously have no 
experience in this but feel compelled to voice your ignorance 
regardless. Oh well.

> 
>> bootsrap the C++ stuff. Performance is benefited too in the case of
>> Android.
> 
> Bullshit.

Oh I see. Let's suppose that one of the jobs of your application is to 
process 44.1kHz audio data from multiple  concurrent audio sources 
(tracks) and perform some transformation on the data (like a 
convolution, delay or filter), and then pass the audio to the sound 
driver.  You will also need to render a UI with stuff like real time VU 
meters  and keep up with the video refresh rate.

I sure as hell don't want to be doing that in Java on a relatively 
piss-weak ARM CPU 'cuz you're going to hear lots of clicks and pops and 
stuttering.



Ali Arif

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  Re: I need a Android Programmer rossum <rossum48@coldmail.com> - 2014-02-14 12:00 +0000
    Re: I need a Android Programmer "Charles Hottel" <chottel@earthlink.net> - 2014-02-14 13:15 -0500
  Re: I need a Android Programmer Ali Arif <aaarif321@hotmail.com> - 2014-02-16 15:25 +1100
    Re: I need a Android Programmer Joerg Meier <joergmmeier@arcor.de> - 2014-02-16 11:33 +0100
      Re: I need a Android Programmer lipska the kat <lipskathekat@example.com> - 2014-02-16 11:01 +0000
        Re: I need a Android Programmer Ali Arif <aaarif321@hotmail.com> - 2014-02-18 22:52 +1100
          Re: I need a Android Programmer Lew <lewbloch@gmail.com> - 2014-02-18 16:11 -0800
            Re: I need a Android Programmer Ali Arif <aaarif321@hotmail.com> - 2014-02-20 01:04 +1100

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