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Re: Recommendations for an online Introduction to programming using Java

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On 12/18/2013 03:32 PM, Stefan Ram wrote:
> Chris Riesbeck <Chris.Riesbeck@gmail.com> writes:
>> I looked at a couple of the early videos. A sincere effort but along
>> with learning Java, you'll learn a lot of bad habits, especially in
>> naming things. E.g., his first example is a hello world program in a
>> class called "apples," thereby managing to make three mistakes in one
>> short name.
>
>        1st) the name is not related to the meaning of the class
>             (most severe)
>        2nd) it does not start with an upper-case letter
>        3rd) it contains a comma
>
>    The quality assessments of beginners and experts often
>    differ. A beginner senses whether the learning process
>    triggered by reading a book makes him feel good, and will
>    not always recognize it when he learns something that is
>    wrong. When the book tells the beginner: »You can name a
>    class any way you like as long as the name sounds really
>    cool, for example, try funny fruit names.«, a young beginner
>    might actually like this stance. Possibly, he will continue
>    to read this book, while he would have stopped reading a
>    more boring book even though it is more correct in technical
>    terms. So, the funny book with the mistakes might actually
>    make him learn more (some of which is wrong).
>
>    There is a German Java programming book, whose name I
>    forgot, that uses class and variable names like »Jacob« and
>    «Sophia«. While experts criticise this, some readers
>    (beginners) say that it helps them to understand that these
>    are names the programmer can assign as he likes it,
>    setting them clearly apart from keywords like »return«,
>    marking them as /names/.
>
I'm not aware of great recent introductory Java programming books, 
except for advanced topics: you appreciate Bloch and Goetz when you've 
already learned Java. That Herb Schildt wrote a book about Java bothers 
me: his books on C and C++ were awful. But judging by the publishing 
press he is an authority on C, C++, C# and Java. I'll be less harsh 
about the Deitels: they are merely mediocre.

The original O'Reilly books about Java were the best. I've still got my 
'96 edition of "Java In a Nutshell" by Flanagan on my shelf.

AHS
-- 
When a true genius appears, you can know him by this sign:
that all the dunces are in a confederacy against him.
-- Jonathan Swift

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  Re: Recommendations for an online Introduction to programming using Java markspace <markspace@nospam.nospam> - 2013-12-16 14:23 -0800
    Re: Recommendations for an online Introduction to programming using Java Joerg Meier <joergmmeier@arcor.de> - 2013-12-17 00:06 +0100
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  Re: Recommendations for an online Introduction to programming using Java Jeff Higgins <jeff@invalid.invalid> - 2013-12-16 17:25 -0500
    Re: Recommendations for an online Introduction to programming using Java cate3@panix.com (Henry Cate) - 2013-12-16 19:01 -0500
      Re: Recommendations for an online Introduction to programming using Java Jeff Higgins <jeff@invalid.invalid> - 2013-12-16 22:42 -0500
        Re: Recommendations for an online Introduction to programming using Java Jeff Higgins <jeff@invalid.invalid> - 2013-12-16 23:36 -0500
          Re: Recommendations for an online Introduction to programming using Java cate3@panix.com (Henry Cate) - 2013-12-17 14:37 -0500
            Re: Recommendations for an online Introduction to programming using Java Martin Gregorie <martin@address-in-sig.invalid> - 2013-12-17 22:33 +0000
              Re: Recommendations for an online Introduction to programming using Java Arne Vajhøj <arne@vajhoej.dk> - 2013-12-17 18:02 -0500
              Re: Recommendations for an online Introduction to programming using Java cate3@panix.com (Henry Cate) - 2013-12-17 18:25 -0500
  Re: Recommendations for an online Introduction to programming using Java Arne Vajhøj <arne@vajhoej.dk> - 2013-12-16 21:58 -0500
  Re: Recommendations for an online Introduction to programming using Java "Charles Hottel" <chottel@earthlink.net> - 2013-12-17 00:28 -0500
    Re: Recommendations for an online Introduction to programming using Java cate3@panix.com (Henry Cate) - 2013-12-17 14:40 -0500
      Re: Recommendations for an online Introduction to programming using Java Jeff Higgins <jeff@invalid.invalid> - 2013-12-17 16:30 -0500
        Re: Recommendations for an online Introduction to programming using   Java Chris Riesbeck <Chris.Riesbeck@gmail.com> - 2013-12-18 12:50 -0600
          Re: Recommendations for an online Introduction to programming using Java Chris Riesbeck <Chris.Riesbeck@gmail.com> - 2013-12-19 12:09 -0600
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          Re: Recommendations for an online Introduction to programming using Java Chris Riesbeck <Chris.Riesbeck@gmail.com> - 2013-12-19 12:22 -0600
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