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Re: multiple inheritance in Java

From Arved Sandstrom <asandstrom2@eastlink.ca>
Newsgroups comp.lang.java.programmer
Subject Re: multiple inheritance in Java
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Date 2013-07-18 22:48 -0300

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On 07/06/2013 01:31 AM, Jim Janney wrote:
> Arne Vajhøj <arne@vajhoej.dk> writes:
>
>> On 7/5/2013 6:29 PM, Jim Janney wrote:
>>> Arne Vajhøj <arne@vajhoej.dk> writes:
>>>
>>>> On 7/5/2013 12:04 PM, Jim Janney wrote:
>>>>> On the other hand, and this is probably more important, the Java
>>>>> community sets great store on always doing things the usual way, and
>>>>> this has turned into a strength for the language: you can pull a
>>>>> third-party library library into a project and expect that it will work
>>>>> with and follow the same conventions as the rest of the code.  There are
>>>>> languages that encourage the programmer to express his or her
>>>>> individuality (Lisp comes to mind).  Java is not one of them.
>>>>
>>>> That is somewhat true.
>>>>
>>>> Java is primarily used in business programming. You need millions
>>>> of Java programmers and that means that you will get some very good,
>>>> a lot of acceptable and some complete hopeless. And the type
>>>> of applications are often semi-important (no one will die if the
>>>> application does not work but some one may lose money if the
>>>> application does not work). In that context it is important that
>>>> Java code written by mediocre programmers actually work. So the
>>>> Java language is kept reasonable simple, framework are often
>>>> pretty strict and there is a lot of emphasis on following
>>>> all the conventions. Maybe a bit boring. Bit usually it works.
>>>
>>> I was simplifying, of course, but yes: those are the very qualities that
>>> have led to the success of Java in business programming.  Not a niche
>>> that I think anyone expected it to find, but in hindsight it makes
>>> sense.
>>
>> And hard to call business programming a niche.
>>
>> I would expect it to be the majority of programming.
>
> In terms of lines of code and total programmer-hours expended, that may
> well be true.  Call it a large niche :-)
>
Call it a huge niche, "business" programming. If you're writing code to 
solve a problem for a business, you're doing business programming. It 
may be anything from doing asset management for an airport, to analyzing 
traffic patterns in a shopping centre, to coding new laws and 
regulations into a program that needs to be aware of those laws and 
regulations. Only a small percentage of business software explicitly 
deals with money, but *all* business software deals with money at least 
indirectly, because the operations of a business (which includes 
governments) are supported.

I'd say 90 percent of programming is business programming.

AHS

-- 
When a true genius appears, you can know him by this sign:
that all the dunces are in a confederacy against him.
-- Jonathan Swift

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Re: multiple inheritance in Java Jim Janney <jjanney@shell.xmission.com> - 2013-07-05 10:04 -0600
  Re: multiple inheritance in Java Jim Janney <jjanney@shell.xmission.com> - 2013-07-05 11:17 -0600
    Re: multiple inheritance in Java Arne Vajhøj <arne@vajhoej.dk> - 2013-07-05 17:10 -0400
  Re: multiple inheritance in Java Lew <lewbloch@gmail.com> - 2013-07-05 12:26 -0700
    Re: multiple inheritance in Java Jim Janney <jjanney@shell.xmission.com> - 2013-07-05 16:22 -0600
    Re: multiple inheritance in Java Arne Vajhøj <arne@vajhoej.dk> - 2013-07-05 21:52 -0400
  Re: multiple inheritance in Java Arne Vajhøj <arne@vajhoej.dk> - 2013-07-05 17:09 -0400
    Re: multiple inheritance in Java Jim Janney <jjanney@shell.xmission.com> - 2013-07-05 16:29 -0600
      Re: multiple inheritance in Java Arne Vajhøj <arne@vajhoej.dk> - 2013-07-05 21:53 -0400
        Re: multiple inheritance in Java Jim Janney <jjanney@shell.xmission.com> - 2013-07-05 22:31 -0600
          Re: multiple inheritance in Java Arved Sandstrom <asandstrom2@eastlink.ca> - 2013-07-18 22:48 -0300

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