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Re: dealing with ClassLoaders...

From Andreas Leitgeb <avl@auth.logic.tuwien.ac.at>
Newsgroups comp.lang.java.programmer
Subject Re: dealing with ClassLoaders...
Date 2014-08-05 15:38 +0000
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Martin Gregorie <martin@address-in-sig.invalid> wrote:
> On Fri, 01 Aug 2014 23:14:01 +0000, Andreas Leitgeb wrote:
>> That's the point. In your case there was no need for isolation, and
>> there wasn't really a point in creating this MAClassLoader at all.
>> Merely loading the starting class could have been done with
>> Class.forName() thus without any custom classloader. Essentially, what I
>> had before the requirement for multiple apps per VM came up.
> I spent a few minutes trying to remember why I extended ClassLoader at 
> all: the exact reason that now escapes me but I'm fairly sure that I was 
> unable to load of the class via Class.forName(), probably because the 
> classes I wanted to load and run are never explicitly instantiated within 
> the outermost program, which IIRC was written in 2008, so that must have 
> been Java 5 - it was certainly during the pre-Generics era. I don't 
> usually write or extend library code unless I have to!  
> Does this make any sort of sense?

I'm not enough into Java-Archaeology to analyze whether back in 2008
things were different enough to have required that solution. :-)

Also the apparent conflict between "Java 5" and "pre-Generics era"
might have an explanation outside the scope of pure technology.

Whatever it was, your sample helped me wrap my head around these
classloaders.

Thanks!

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dealing with ClassLoaders... Andreas Leitgeb <avl@auth.logic.tuwien.ac.at> - 2014-07-31 19:40 +0000
  Re: dealing with ClassLoaders... Martin Gregorie <martin@address-in-sig.invalid> - 2014-07-31 20:44 +0000
    Re: dealing with ClassLoaders... Andreas Leitgeb <avl@auth.logic.tuwien.ac.at> - 2014-08-01 14:22 +0000
      Re: dealing with ClassLoaders... Andreas Leitgeb <avl@auth.logic.tuwien.ac.at> - 2014-08-01 21:10 +0000
        Re: dealing with ClassLoaders... Eric Sosman <esosman@comcast-dot-net.invalid> - 2014-08-01 17:32 -0400
          Re: dealing with ClassLoaders... Joerg Meier <joergmmeier@arcor.de> - 2014-08-02 01:21 +0200
          Re: dealing with ClassLoaders... Andreas Leitgeb <avl@auth.logic.tuwien.ac.at> - 2014-08-02 00:00 +0000
        Re: dealing with ClassLoaders... Martin Gregorie <martin@address-in-sig.invalid> - 2014-08-01 21:45 +0000
          Re: dealing with ClassLoaders... Andreas Leitgeb <avl@auth.logic.tuwien.ac.at> - 2014-08-01 23:14 +0000
            Re: dealing with ClassLoaders... Martin Gregorie <martin@address-in-sig.invalid> - 2014-08-02 00:35 +0000
              Re: dealing with ClassLoaders... Andreas Leitgeb <avl@auth.logic.tuwien.ac.at> - 2014-08-05 15:38 +0000
  Re: dealing with ClassLoaders... Silvio <silvio@internet.com> - 2014-08-01 13:31 +0200
    Re: dealing with ClassLoaders... Silvio <silvio@internet.com> - 2014-08-01 13:37 +0200
      Re: dealing with ClassLoaders... Andreas Leitgeb <avl@auth.logic.tuwien.ac.at> - 2014-08-01 16:06 +0000
  Re: dealing with ClassLoaders... "Chris Uppal" <chris.uppal@metagnostic.REMOVE-THIS.org> - 2014-08-01 13:19 +0100
    Re: dealing with ClassLoaders... Andreas Leitgeb <avl@auth.logic.tuwien.ac.at> - 2014-08-01 15:51 +0000
  Re: dealing with ClassLoaders... Josip Almasi <joe@vrspace.org> - 2014-08-01 15:55 +0200
    Re: dealing with ClassLoaders... Andreas Leitgeb <avl@auth.logic.tuwien.ac.at> - 2014-08-04 15:12 +0000
      Re: dealing with ClassLoaders... Mike Amling <mamling@chaff.us> - 2014-08-04 19:53 -0500
        Re: dealing with ClassLoaders... Andreas Leitgeb <avl@auth.logic.tuwien.ac.at> - 2014-08-05 15:16 +0000
      Re: dealing with ClassLoaders... Josip Almasi <joe@vrspace.org> - 2014-08-08 11:53 +0200
        Re: dealing with ClassLoaders... Andreas Leitgeb <avl@auth.logic.tuwien.ac.at> - 2014-08-08 18:46 +0000
          Re: dealing with ClassLoaders... Josip Almasi <joe@vrspace.org> - 2014-08-10 13:22 +0200
            Re: dealing with ClassLoaders... Andreas Leitgeb <avl@auth.logic.tuwien.ac.at> - 2014-08-12 17:16 +0000

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