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Re: dealing with ClassLoaders...

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On 08/08/2014 08:46 PM, Andreas Leitgeb wrote:
>> Don't worry, it won't be silent:>
>> Mess up anything, and you get strange ClassCastExceptions.
>
> Well, if due to a bug all references to a certain class
> came from System classloader, then there would not be
> any ClassCastExceptions, but no isolation, either.

Right, but that the case with clearly divided resposibilites.
Not-so-clear situations are different story.

Say, I had plugin system, each plugin was embedding a stand-alone app, 
like web, mail, chat servers...
So, each had it's own class loader, for isolation.
However, the system needed some internal data from plugins...
like, to match username on web server with username on mail server:>
Then, I wanted a plugin to communicate with other plugins.
Like, to ask my chatbot to send someone a mail.
( 
http://www.vrspace.org/vrspace-old/VRSpace_presentation/Presentation_pictures/p2_8.jpg 
)
And so on.

Then, what if two of your apps use same lib, and that lib has static 
collections, and stores some of it's own data into these collections?
Note that it may not matter which loader loaded the lib, but instead, 
which loader loaded the thread that generated object stored to lib's 
internals!
( new -> Class.currentThread().getClassLoader().loadClass(...) or so)

It can go wrong in many ways.

Of course, solutions exist for all wrongs, but identifying what went 
wrong is quite time consuming, because there's so many.

Regards...

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dealing with ClassLoaders... Andreas Leitgeb <avl@auth.logic.tuwien.ac.at> - 2014-07-31 19:40 +0000
  Re: dealing with ClassLoaders... Martin Gregorie <martin@address-in-sig.invalid> - 2014-07-31 20:44 +0000
    Re: dealing with ClassLoaders... Andreas Leitgeb <avl@auth.logic.tuwien.ac.at> - 2014-08-01 14:22 +0000
      Re: dealing with ClassLoaders... Andreas Leitgeb <avl@auth.logic.tuwien.ac.at> - 2014-08-01 21:10 +0000
        Re: dealing with ClassLoaders... Eric Sosman <esosman@comcast-dot-net.invalid> - 2014-08-01 17:32 -0400
          Re: dealing with ClassLoaders... Joerg Meier <joergmmeier@arcor.de> - 2014-08-02 01:21 +0200
          Re: dealing with ClassLoaders... Andreas Leitgeb <avl@auth.logic.tuwien.ac.at> - 2014-08-02 00:00 +0000
        Re: dealing with ClassLoaders... Martin Gregorie <martin@address-in-sig.invalid> - 2014-08-01 21:45 +0000
          Re: dealing with ClassLoaders... Andreas Leitgeb <avl@auth.logic.tuwien.ac.at> - 2014-08-01 23:14 +0000
            Re: dealing with ClassLoaders... Martin Gregorie <martin@address-in-sig.invalid> - 2014-08-02 00:35 +0000
              Re: dealing with ClassLoaders... Andreas Leitgeb <avl@auth.logic.tuwien.ac.at> - 2014-08-05 15:38 +0000
  Re: dealing with ClassLoaders... Silvio <silvio@internet.com> - 2014-08-01 13:31 +0200
    Re: dealing with ClassLoaders... Silvio <silvio@internet.com> - 2014-08-01 13:37 +0200
      Re: dealing with ClassLoaders... Andreas Leitgeb <avl@auth.logic.tuwien.ac.at> - 2014-08-01 16:06 +0000
  Re: dealing with ClassLoaders... "Chris Uppal" <chris.uppal@metagnostic.REMOVE-THIS.org> - 2014-08-01 13:19 +0100
    Re: dealing with ClassLoaders... Andreas Leitgeb <avl@auth.logic.tuwien.ac.at> - 2014-08-01 15:51 +0000
  Re: dealing with ClassLoaders... Josip Almasi <joe@vrspace.org> - 2014-08-01 15:55 +0200
    Re: dealing with ClassLoaders... Andreas Leitgeb <avl@auth.logic.tuwien.ac.at> - 2014-08-04 15:12 +0000
      Re: dealing with ClassLoaders... Mike Amling <mamling@chaff.us> - 2014-08-04 19:53 -0500
        Re: dealing with ClassLoaders... Andreas Leitgeb <avl@auth.logic.tuwien.ac.at> - 2014-08-05 15:16 +0000
      Re: dealing with ClassLoaders... Josip Almasi <joe@vrspace.org> - 2014-08-08 11:53 +0200
        Re: dealing with ClassLoaders... Andreas Leitgeb <avl@auth.logic.tuwien.ac.at> - 2014-08-08 18:46 +0000
          Re: dealing with ClassLoaders... Josip Almasi <joe@vrspace.org> - 2014-08-10 13:22 +0200
            Re: dealing with ClassLoaders... Andreas Leitgeb <avl@auth.logic.tuwien.ac.at> - 2014-08-12 17:16 +0000

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