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Re: why use maven to deploy a servlet?

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On 26/07/14 23:32, Joerg Meier wrote:
> On Sat, 26 Jul 2014 21:11:51 +0100, lipska the kat wrote:

<snip>

>> Did you or did you not imply/infer/suggest that using an IDE is
>> unprofessional?
>
> I did not, that would be insane. I did however outright say that using an
> IDE as your only build system was not the behaviour of a professional
> software producer, and I stand by that.

You said

<quote>
Even somewhat professional run projects don't have people build from
whatever IDE they happen to have installed at the time, but instead 
build(and deploy) their artifacts in a reproducible and controlled 
environment.
</quote>

<snip>

> I have yet to hear a reason why that wouldn't be the case, while I have
> given reasons as to why I think it is.
>
>> An Ant script for deploying to a remote Tomcat instance using Tomcats
>> own Ant tasks has served me and countless other competent developers for
>> just as many years as maven has been around.
>
> So you do use a build system yourself, confusing me even more as to why you
> are arguing against them. Surely you don't consider using Ant to build
> and/or deploy as using your IDE ?

You are putting words into my mouth.

I'm not arguing against build systems (plural) ... point me to the place 
where I argue against build systems in general.

I'm arguing against your assertion that using an IDE to build your 
system is not professional and yes, running Ant scripts from within an 
IDE is very common, I'm surprised you haven't heard of it.

That's what an IDE is, it's an 'Integrated' Development  Environment.

>> To clear this up: I don't object to your maven evangelism just the
>> implication that if you do Java and don't do maven then you are in some
>> way inferior to maven users.
>
> If you do Java, act like you are a professional software developer and have
> your current IDE settings as your only build system, then yeah, you are
> inferiour to Maven users,

Fascinating.


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why use maven to deploy a servlet? www <xsli2@yahoo.com> - 2014-07-25 08:45 -0700
  Re: why use maven to deploy a servlet? Joerg Meier <joergmmeier@arcor.de> - 2014-07-25 19:36 +0200
    Re: why use maven to deploy a servlet? Arne Vajhøj <arne@vajhoej.dk> - 2014-07-25 21:16 -0400
      Re: why use maven to deploy a servlet? Joerg Meier <joergmmeier@arcor.de> - 2014-07-26 14:31 +0200
        Re: why use maven to deploy a servlet? Arne Vajhøj <arne@vajhoej.dk> - 2014-07-26 10:07 -0400
    Re: why use maven to deploy a servlet? Donkey Hottie <donkey@fredriksson.dy.fi> - 2014-08-02 21:54 +0300
  Re: why use maven to deploy a servlet? lipska the kat <lipskathekat@example.com> - 2014-07-26 19:24 +0100
    Re: why use maven to deploy a servlet? Joerg Meier <joergmmeier@arcor.de> - 2014-07-26 21:34 +0200
      Re: why use maven to deploy a servlet? lipska the kat <lipskathekat@example.com> - 2014-07-26 21:11 +0100
        Re: why use maven to deploy a servlet? Joerg Meier <joergmmeier@arcor.de> - 2014-07-27 00:32 +0200
          Re: why use maven to deploy a servlet? lipska the kat <lipskathekat@example.com> - 2014-07-27 08:28 +0100
            Re: why use maven to deploy a servlet? Joerg Meier <joergmmeier@arcor.de> - 2014-07-28 23:06 +0200
              Re: why use maven to deploy a servlet? lipska the kat <lipskathekat@example.com> - 2014-07-29 08:42 +0100
  Re: why use maven to deploy a servlet? Joerg Meier <joergmmeier@arcor.de> - 2014-07-26 21:41 +0200

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