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Re: Which databases are the most used with Java

From Sebastian <nowhere@nirvana.org>
Newsgroups comp.lang.java.programmer
Subject Re: Which databases are the most used with Java
Date 2017-08-13 22:24 +0200
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Am 13.08.2017 um 21:35 schrieb Cecil Westerhof:
> Robert Klemme <shortcutter@googlemail.com> writes:
>
>> Another aspect of the original question that puzzled me right from the
>> start: why does it matter at all what JDBC driver is really used.  Since
>> all the types are interfaces anyway _any_ JDBC driver should work with
>> the wrapper library (except vendor specific things which require
>> specific types anyway).
>
> The only things that differs (as long as you only use generic
> functionality) is the URLPrefix. That is why I think it is not much
> work to generate the other concrete classes when the abstract and
> first concrete class are finished.
>
That's a bit optimistic. JDBC as a standard is a little vague, and 
surprising things can happen, starting with your mapping from database 
types to Java SQL types (NUMERIC?, REAL?, DECIMAL?... - and this can 
change even when updating from version of a driver to another of the 
same vendor). Then there are the peculiarities of caching, dealing with 
cursors, how to write your queries they are optimized etc. A _good_ 
abstraction over JDBC has to deal with all this kind of stuff and more, 
and has to keep up with changes in the databases it supports and their 
official drivers.

I agree with the sentiment expressed by Lew and Martin: A wrapper around 
trivial code that provides no useful abstractions, and just saves you 
some typing, may do more harm than good in the long run.

-- Sebastian

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Which databases are the most used with Java Cecil Westerhof <Cecil@decebal.nl> - 2017-08-13 07:58 +0200
  Re: Which databases are the most used with Java Marcel Mueller <news.5.maazl@spamgourmet.org> - 2017-08-13 09:33 +0200
    Re: Which databases are the most used with Java Cecil Westerhof <Cecil@decebal.nl> - 2017-08-13 11:14 +0200
    Re: Which databases are the most used with Java Arne Vajhøj <arne@vajhoej.dk> - 2017-08-13 16:53 -0400
  Re: Which databases are the most used with Java Sebastian <nowhere@nirvana.org> - 2017-08-13 09:36 +0200
    Re: Which databases are the most used with Java Cecil Westerhof <Cecil@decebal.nl> - 2017-08-13 11:07 +0200
      Re: Which databases are the most used with Java Andreas Leitgeb <avl@logic.at> - 2017-08-13 09:46 +0000
        Re: Which databases are the most used with Java Cecil Westerhof <Cecil@decebal.nl> - 2017-08-13 12:12 +0200
          Re: Which databases are the most used with Java Robert Klemme <shortcutter@googlemail.com> - 2017-08-13 17:47 +0200
            Re: Which databases are the most used with Java Cecil Westerhof <Cecil@decebal.nl> - 2017-08-13 19:11 +0200
              Re: Which databases are the most used with Java Robert Klemme <shortcutter@googlemail.com> - 2017-08-13 20:26 +0200
                Re: Which databases are the most used with Java Cecil Westerhof <Cecil@decebal.nl> - 2017-08-13 21:30 +0200
                Re: Which databases are the most used with Java Martin Gregorie <martin@address-in-sig.invalid> - 2017-08-13 20:00 +0000
                Re: Which databases are the most used with Java Arne Vajhøj <arne@vajhoej.dk> - 2017-08-13 16:43 -0400
              Re: Which databases are the most used with Java Arne Vajhøj <arne@vajhoej.dk> - 2017-08-13 16:42 -0400
                Re: Which databases are the most used with Java Cecil Westerhof <Cecil@decebal.nl> - 2017-08-13 23:18 +0200
                Re: Which databases are the most used with Java Arne Vajhøj <arne@vajhoej.dk> - 2017-08-13 20:41 -0400
                Re: Which databases are the most used with Java Cecil Westerhof <Cecil@decebal.nl> - 2017-08-14 03:04 +0200
                Re: Which databases are the most used with Java lewbloch@gmail.com - 2017-08-14 11:12 -0700
                Re: Which databases are the most used with Java Eric Douglas <e.d.programmer@gmail.com> - 2017-08-14 12:42 -0700
                Re: Which databases are the most used with Java Robert Klemme <shortcutter@googlemail.com> - 2017-08-21 22:25 +0200
                Re: Which databases are the most used with Java Arne Vajhøj <arne@vajhoej.dk> - 2017-08-21 19:50 -0400
              Re: Which databases are the most used with Java Eric Douglas <e.d.programmer@gmail.com> - 2017-08-14 13:48 -0700
                Re: Which databases are the most used with Java Cecil Westerhof <Cecil@decebal.nl> - 2017-08-15 07:27 +0200
                Re: Which databases are the most used with Java Martin Gregorie <martin@address-in-sig.invalid> - 2017-08-15 10:25 +0000
                Re: Which databases are the most used with Java Cecil Westerhof <Cecil@decebal.nl> - 2017-08-15 14:15 +0200
                Re: Which databases are the most used with Java Martin Gregorie <martin@address-in-sig.invalid> - 2017-08-15 14:37 +0000
                Re: Which databases are the most used with Java lewbloch@gmail.com - 2017-08-17 14:52 -0700
                Re: Which databases are the most used with Java Sebastian <nowhere@nirvana.org> - 2017-08-18 00:09 +0200
                Re: Which databases are the most used with Java Arne Vajhøj <arne@vajhoej.dk> - 2017-08-17 18:14 -0400
                Re: Which databases are the most used with Java Arne Vajhøj <arne@vajhoej.dk> - 2017-08-17 18:19 -0400
                Re: Which databases are the most used with Java Cecil Westerhof <Cecil@decebal.nl> - 2017-08-18 06:43 +0200
                Re: Which databases are the most used with Java Arne Vajhøj <arne@vajhoej.dk> - 2017-08-15 11:02 -0400
                Re: Which databases are the most used with Java Patrick Roemer <sangamon@netcologne.de> - 2017-08-15 13:12 +0200
                Re: Which databases are the most used with Java Cecil Westerhof <Cecil@decebal.nl> - 2017-08-15 14:41 +0200
                Re: Which databases are the most used with Java Eric Douglas <e.d.programmer@gmail.com> - 2017-08-15 06:11 -0700
                Re: Which databases are the most used with Java Cecil Westerhof <Cecil@decebal.nl> - 2017-08-15 16:33 +0200
                Re: Which databases are the most used with Java Eric Douglas <e.d.programmer@gmail.com> - 2017-08-15 08:05 -0700
                Re: Which databases are the most used with Java Cecil Westerhof <Cecil@decebal.nl> - 2017-08-15 18:48 +0200
                Re: Which databases are the most used with Java Arne Vajhøj <arne@vajhoej.dk> - 2017-08-15 11:12 -0400
                Re: Which databases are the most used with Java Eric Douglas <e.d.programmer@gmail.com> - 2017-08-15 08:19 -0700
                Re: Which databases are the most used with Java Arne Vajhøj <arne@vajhoej.dk> - 2017-08-15 11:46 -0400
                Re: Which databases are the most used with Java Eric Douglas <e.d.programmer@gmail.com> - 2017-08-15 08:43 -0700
                Re: Which databases are the most used with Java Arne Vajhøj <arne@vajhoej.dk> - 2017-08-15 11:51 -0400
                Re: Which databases are the most used with Java Cecil Westerhof <Cecil@decebal.nl> - 2017-08-15 18:38 +0200
                Re: Which databases are the most used with Java Patrick Roemer <sangamon@netcologne.de> - 2017-08-15 16:14 +0200
                Re: Which databases are the most used with Java Cecil Westerhof <Cecil@decebal.nl> - 2017-08-15 17:42 +0200
                Re: Which databases are the most used with Java Arne Vajhøj <arne@vajhoej.dk> - 2017-08-15 11:09 -0400
                Re: Which databases are the most used with Java Arne Vajhøj <arne@vajhoej.dk> - 2017-08-15 11:06 -0400
                Re: Which databases are the most used with Java Cecil Westerhof <Cecil@decebal.nl> - 2017-08-15 18:42 +0200
                Re: Which databases are the most used with Java Arne Vajhøj <arne@vajhoej.dk> - 2017-08-16 21:13 -0400
                Re: Which databases are the most used with Java Cecil Westerhof <Cecil@decebal.nl> - 2017-08-17 09:04 +0200
                Re: Which databases are the most used with Java Arne Vajhøj <arne@vajhoej.dk> - 2017-08-17 18:16 -0400
                Re: Which databases are the most used with Java Cecil Westerhof <Cecil@decebal.nl> - 2017-08-18 06:51 +0200
                Re: Which databases are the most used with Java Arne Vajhøj <arne@vajhoej.dk> - 2017-08-18 08:52 -0400
                Re: Which databases are the most used with Java Cecil Westerhof <Cecil@decebal.nl> - 2017-08-18 15:31 +0200
                Re: Which databases are the most used with Java Arne Vajhøj <arne@vajhoej.dk> - 2017-08-18 15:09 -0400
                Re: Which databases are the most used with Java Cecil Westerhof <Cecil@decebal.nl> - 2017-08-18 23:14 +0200
                Re: Which databases are the most used with Java Eric Douglas <e.d.programmer@gmail.com> - 2017-08-18 07:15 -0700
                Re: Which databases are the most used with Java Arne Vajhøj <arne@vajhoej.dk> - 2017-08-18 15:16 -0400
      Re: Which databases are the most used with Java Sebastian <nowhere@nirvana.org> - 2017-08-13 18:08 +0200
        Re: Which databases are the most used with Java Robert Klemme <shortcutter@googlemail.com> - 2017-08-13 20:30 +0200
          Re: Which databases are the most used with Java Cecil Westerhof <Cecil@decebal.nl> - 2017-08-13 21:35 +0200
            Re: Which databases are the most used with Java Sebastian <nowhere@nirvana.org> - 2017-08-13 22:24 +0200
              Re: Which databases are the most used with Java Cecil Westerhof <Cecil@decebal.nl> - 2017-08-13 23:33 +0200
                Re: Which databases are the most used with Java Robert Klemme <shortcutter@googlemail.com> - 2017-08-14 18:18 +0200
                Re: Which databases are the most used with Java Cecil Westerhof <Cecil@decebal.nl> - 2017-08-15 07:47 +0200
              Re: Which databases are the most used with Java Arne Vajhøj <arne@vajhoej.dk> - 2017-08-16 21:21 -0400
                Re: Which databases are the most used with Java Sebastian <nowhere@nirvana.org> - 2017-08-17 23:33 +0200
                Re: Which databases are the most used with Java Arne Vajhøj <arne@vajhoej.dk> - 2017-08-17 18:11 -0400
            Re: Which databases are the most used with Java Cecil Westerhof <Cecil@decebal.nl> - 2017-08-13 23:24 +0200
              Re: Which databases are the most used with Java Robert Klemme <shortcutter@googlemail.com> - 2017-08-14 18:14 +0200
                Re: Which databases are the most used with Java Cecil Westerhof <Cecil@decebal.nl> - 2017-08-15 07:45 +0200
          Re: Which databases are the most used with Java Sebastian <nowhere@nirvana.org> - 2017-08-13 22:16 +0200
          Re: Which databases are the most used with Java Arne Vajhøj <arne@vajhoej.dk> - 2017-08-13 16:50 -0400
            Re: Which databases are the most used with Java Cecil Westerhof <Cecil@decebal.nl> - 2017-08-13 23:35 +0200
              Re: Which databases are the most used with Java Arne Vajhøj <arne@vajhoej.dk> - 2017-08-13 21:14 -0400
                Re: Which databases are the most used with Java Cecil Westerhof <Cecil@decebal.nl> - 2017-08-14 10:24 +0200
        Re: Which databases are the most used with Java Arne Vajhøj <arne@vajhoej.dk> - 2017-08-13 16:45 -0400
          Re: Which databases are the most used with Java Cecil Westerhof <Cecil@decebal.nl> - 2017-08-13 23:36 +0200
            Re: Which databases are the most used with Java Arne Vajhøj <arne@vajhoej.dk> - 2017-08-13 20:42 -0400
              Re: Which databases are the most used with Java Cecil Westerhof <Cecil@decebal.nl> - 2017-08-14 03:06 +0200
      Re: Which databases are the most used with Java lewbloch@gmail.com - 2017-08-13 09:59 -0700
      Re: Which databases are the most used with Java Arne Vajhøj <arne@vajhoej.dk> - 2017-08-13 17:04 -0400
        Re: Which databases are the most used with Java Cecil Westerhof <Cecil@decebal.nl> - 2017-08-14 00:06 +0200
          Re: Which databases are the most used with Java Cecil Westerhof <Cecil@decebal.nl> - 2017-08-14 00:35 +0200
            Re: Which databases are the most used with Java Arne Vajhøj <arne@vajhoej.dk> - 2017-08-13 20:44 -0400
              Re: Which databases are the most used with Java Cecil Westerhof <Cecil@decebal.nl> - 2017-08-14 03:12 +0200
  Re: Which databases are the most used with Java Arne Vajhøj <arne@vajhoej.dk> - 2017-08-13 16:59 -0400
  Re: Which databases are the most used with Java Joerg Meier <joergmmeier@arcor.de> - 2017-08-16 07:26 +0200
    Re: Which databases are the most used with Java Cecil Westerhof <Cecil@decebal.nl> - 2017-08-16 09:40 +0200
  Re: Which databases are the most used with Java Graeme Geldenhuys <graemeg@example.net> - 2017-08-23 00:15 +0100
    Re: Which databases are the most used with Java Cecil Westerhof <Cecil@decebal.nl> - 2017-08-23 12:09 +0200

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