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Re: What is left alive?

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From	Arne Vajhøj <arne@vajhoej.dk>
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On 12/6/2016 8:08 AM, Eric Douglas wrote:
> On Monday, December 5, 2016 at 9:37:16 PM UTC-5, Arne Vajhøj wrote:
>> On 12/4/2016 5:39 AM, Silvio wrote:
>>> The facts are simple: desktop Java except Android is heading for
>>> oblivion.
>>
>> It was never that big in the first place.
>
> Pure Java Swing apps maybe not, but Java based apps like PeopleSoft would be much more popular.

There are tons of Java server side.

I believe that Peoplesoft have been web based not fat client for
many many years.

>>>  Apart from mobile apps the trend in user
>>> interfaces is HTML/CSS/JavaScript. And that is the case for an ever
>>> increasing number of mobile applications as well.
>>
>> The trend for native vs HTML 5 based mobile seems to change
>> every 3 months.
>
> I haven't gotten around to learning mobile coding because of the wide
> range of technology.  It really helps developers when platforms focus
> on one main language.  Do I learn HTML4, HTML5, CSS, Objective C,
> Swift, Android Java...?

Learning "HTML 5" which means HTML+CSS+JS (and a lot of socalled
HTML 5 actually is valid HTML 4) is a very useful. Period.
Desktop browser, mobile browser, some mobile app frameworks and even
some desktop app frameworks.

The common choices are:
* Java for Android
* Swift and Objective-C for iOS

But there are all sorts of more exotic alternatives.

You can use other JVM languages than for Android.

You can use Xamarin which is C# based for both Android and iOS.

Arne

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Re: What is left alive? Lothar Kimmeringer <news200709@kimmeringer.de> - 2016-12-01 12:28 +0100
  Re: What is left alive? Abandoned Trolley <russell@fredswedlock.co.uk> - 2016-12-02 12:13 +0000
    Re: What is left alive? Eric Douglas <e.d.programmer@gmail.com> - 2016-12-02 06:48 -0800
      Re: What is left alive? Abandoned Trolley <russell@fredswedlock.co.uk> - 2016-12-02 15:37 +0000
      Re: What is left alive? a.laforgia@gmail.com - 2016-12-02 17:57 -0800
        Re: What is left alive? Robert Klemme <shortcutter@googlemail.com> - 2016-12-03 11:34 +0100
          Re: What is left alive? Silvio <silvio@internet.com> - 2016-12-04 11:39 +0100
            Re: What is left alive? Arne Vajhøj <arne@vajhoej.dk> - 2016-12-05 21:37 -0500
              Re: What is left alive? Eric Douglas <e.d.programmer@gmail.com> - 2016-12-06 05:08 -0800
                Re: What is left alive? Silvio <silvio@internet.com> - 2016-12-06 18:46 +0100
                Re: What is left alive? Arne Vajhøj <arne@vajhoej.dk> - 2016-12-06 21:01 -0500
          Re: What is left alive? a.laforgia@gmail.com - 2016-12-05 06:13 -0800

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