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Re: Self-updating relationship

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From	Arne Vajhøj <arne@vajhoej.dk>
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Subject	Re: Self-updating relationship
Date	Fri, 4 Sep 2015 22:38:08 -0400
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On 9/4/2015 10:31 PM, Arne Vajhøj wrote:
> On 9/4/2015 10:10 PM, Jeff Higgins wrote:
>> On 09/04/2015 07:45 PM, Arne Vajhøj wrote:
>>> On 9/4/2015 11:49 AM, Jeff Higgins wrote:
>>>> You're allowed limit your "core Java" to the
>>>> packages available within the JDK, if you like
>>>> but you cannot exclude the javafx packages from "Java SE".
>>>
>>> We sure can.
>>>
>>> A Java implementation can be fully Java SE compliant without
>>> JavaFX.
>>>
>>> And I think that in fact most Java 8 implementations besides
>>> reference implementation (Oracle) comes without. IBM certainly does.
>>>
>>> The above page is about "Java SE product". Java SE is a
>>> specification not a product. Oracle Java SE is a product and
>>> that does indeed contain JavaFX.
>>
>> Please point me to the Java SE specification.
>
> Language:
>
> https://docs.oracle.com/javase/specs/jls/se8/html/index.html
>
> VM:
>
> https://docs.oracle.com/javase/specs/jvms/se8/html/index.html
>
> API:
>
> http://docs.oracle.com/javase/8/docs/api/
>
> Yes - you usually don't think about the latter as a specification.
>
> But read what it says.
>
> "This document is the API specification for the Java™ Platform, Standard
> Edition."
>
> And JavaFX is not included.

Maybe also relevant is that there is a JCK aka Java TCK
where you need to pass the tests (10 years ago it was
supposedly 70000 unit tests) before you are allowed
to call something Java.

(and IBM Java must have passed - and they sure don't have JavaFX)

Arne

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Re: Self-updating relationship James Kuyper <jameskuyper@verizon.net> - 2015-09-02 17:14 -0400
  Re: Self-updating relationship Eric Sosman <esosman@comcast-dot-net.invalid> - 2015-09-02 17:46 -0400
    Re: Self-updating relationship Arne Vajhøj <arne@vajhoej.dk> - 2015-09-03 21:06 -0400
      Re: Self-updating relationship e.d.programmer@gmail.com - 2015-09-04 04:46 -0700
        Re: Self-updating relationship Arne Vajhøj <arne@vajhoej.dk> - 2015-09-04 19:43 -0400
    Re: Self-updating relationship Jeff Higgins <jeff@invalid.invalid> - 2015-09-04 11:49 -0400
      Re: Self-updating relationship Arne Vajhøj <arne@vajhoej.dk> - 2015-09-04 19:45 -0400
        Re: Self-updating relationship Jeff Higgins <jeff@invalid.invalid> - 2015-09-04 22:10 -0400
          Re: Self-updating relationship Arne Vajhøj <arne@vajhoej.dk> - 2015-09-04 22:31 -0400
            Re: Self-updating relationship Arne Vajhøj <arne@vajhoej.dk> - 2015-09-04 22:38 -0400
            Re: Self-updating relationship Jeff Higgins <jeff@invalid.invalid> - 2015-09-04 22:51 -0400
  Re: Self-updating relationship James Kuyper <jameskuyper@verizon.net> - 2015-09-02 18:49 -0400
    Re: Self-updating relationship James Kuyper <jameskuyper@verizon.net> - 2015-09-02 19:28 -0400
      Re: Self-updating relationship Jeff Higgins <jeff@invalid.invalid> - 2015-09-02 23:52 -0400
        Re: Self-updating relationship Jeff Higgins <jeff@invalid.invalid> - 2015-09-03 10:32 -0400
          Re: Self-updating relationship James Kuyper <jameskuyper@verizon.net> - 2015-09-03 10:53 -0400
            Re: Self-updating relationship Jeff Higgins <jeff@invalid.invalid> - 2015-09-03 11:31 -0400
              Re: Self-updating relationship Jeff Higgins <jeff@invalid.invalid> - 2015-09-03 11:35 -0400
              Re: Self-updating relationship Jeff Higgins <jeff@invalid.invalid> - 2015-09-03 11:49 -0400
              Re: Self-updating relationship James Kuyper <jameskuyper@verizon.net> - 2015-09-03 12:16 -0400
                Re: Self-updating relationship Jeff Higgins <jeff@invalid.invalid> - 2015-09-03 13:03 -0400
          Re: Self-updating relationship Jeff Higgins <jeff@invalid.invalid> - 2015-09-03 10:55 -0400
      Re: Self-updating relationship James Kuyper <jameskuyper@verizon.net> - 2015-09-03 00:06 -0400
    Re: Self-updating relationship Jeff Higgins <jeff@invalid.invalid> - 2015-09-02 23:38 -0400
      Re: Self-updating relationship Jeff Higgins <jeff@invalid.invalid> - 2015-09-03 01:22 -0400

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