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Re: Self-updating relationship

From	Arne Vajhøj <arne@vajhoej.dk>
Newsgroups	comp.lang.c, comp.lang.java.programmer
Subject	Re: Self-updating relationship
Date	2015-09-04 19:45 -0400
Organization	Aioe.org NNTP Server
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On 9/4/2015 11:49 AM, Jeff Higgins wrote:
> On 09/02/2015 05:46 PM, Eric Sosman wrote:
>>
>>      It's worth noting that the javafx package is not part of "core
>> Java" (more formally, "Java SE"), but is an optional add-on called
>> JavaFX.  (JavaFX is well-known as the technology that has made all
>> of AWT, Swing, SWT, Flash, and HTML5 obsolete. :)
>>
>>      In other words, the machinery that makes the updates happen is
>> not "a Java feature" any more than GMP is "a C feature."
>>
> Another note of interest:
>  From the "Oracle Java SE and Oracle Java Embedded Products" page
> <http://www.oracle.com/technetwork/java/javase/terms/products/index.html>
>
> Java SE includes:
>
>    The Java Development Kit (JDK),
>      including the JavaFX Software Development Kit (SDK),
>
>    Java Runtime Environment (JRE),
>      (Server and regular packages)
>
>    JavaFX Runtime,
>
>    JRockit JDK
>
> The javafx package is not part of the Java Development Kit (JDK).
>
> You're allowed limit your "core Java" to the
> packages available within the JDK, if you like
> but you cannot exclude the javafx packages from "Java SE".

We sure can.

A Java implementation can be fully Java SE compliant without
JavaFX.

And I think that in fact most Java 8 implementations besides
reference implementation (Oracle) comes without. IBM certainly does.

The above page is about "Java SE product". Java SE is a
specification not a product. Oracle Java SE is a product and
that does indeed contain JavaFX.

Arne

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Re: Self-updating relationship James Kuyper <jameskuyper@verizon.net> - 2015-09-02 17:14 -0400
  Re: Self-updating relationship Eric Sosman <esosman@comcast-dot-net.invalid> - 2015-09-02 17:46 -0400
    Re: Self-updating relationship Arne Vajhøj <arne@vajhoej.dk> - 2015-09-03 21:06 -0400
      Re: Self-updating relationship e.d.programmer@gmail.com - 2015-09-04 04:46 -0700
        Re: Self-updating relationship Arne Vajhøj <arne@vajhoej.dk> - 2015-09-04 19:43 -0400
    Re: Self-updating relationship Jeff Higgins <jeff@invalid.invalid> - 2015-09-04 11:49 -0400
      Re: Self-updating relationship Arne Vajhøj <arne@vajhoej.dk> - 2015-09-04 19:45 -0400
        Re: Self-updating relationship Jeff Higgins <jeff@invalid.invalid> - 2015-09-04 22:10 -0400
          Re: Self-updating relationship Arne Vajhøj <arne@vajhoej.dk> - 2015-09-04 22:31 -0400
            Re: Self-updating relationship Arne Vajhøj <arne@vajhoej.dk> - 2015-09-04 22:38 -0400
            Re: Self-updating relationship Jeff Higgins <jeff@invalid.invalid> - 2015-09-04 22:51 -0400
  Re: Self-updating relationship James Kuyper <jameskuyper@verizon.net> - 2015-09-02 18:49 -0400
    Re: Self-updating relationship James Kuyper <jameskuyper@verizon.net> - 2015-09-02 19:28 -0400
      Re: Self-updating relationship Jeff Higgins <jeff@invalid.invalid> - 2015-09-02 23:52 -0400
        Re: Self-updating relationship Jeff Higgins <jeff@invalid.invalid> - 2015-09-03 10:32 -0400
          Re: Self-updating relationship James Kuyper <jameskuyper@verizon.net> - 2015-09-03 10:53 -0400
            Re: Self-updating relationship Jeff Higgins <jeff@invalid.invalid> - 2015-09-03 11:31 -0400
              Re: Self-updating relationship Jeff Higgins <jeff@invalid.invalid> - 2015-09-03 11:35 -0400
              Re: Self-updating relationship Jeff Higgins <jeff@invalid.invalid> - 2015-09-03 11:49 -0400
              Re: Self-updating relationship James Kuyper <jameskuyper@verizon.net> - 2015-09-03 12:16 -0400
                Re: Self-updating relationship Jeff Higgins <jeff@invalid.invalid> - 2015-09-03 13:03 -0400
          Re: Self-updating relationship Jeff Higgins <jeff@invalid.invalid> - 2015-09-03 10:55 -0400
      Re: Self-updating relationship James Kuyper <jameskuyper@verizon.net> - 2015-09-03 00:06 -0400
    Re: Self-updating relationship Jeff Higgins <jeff@invalid.invalid> - 2015-09-02 23:38 -0400
      Re: Self-updating relationship Jeff Higgins <jeff@invalid.invalid> - 2015-09-03 01:22 -0400

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