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From Martin Gregorie <martin@address-in-sig.invalid>
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On Fri, 04 Sep 2015 01:16:48 +1000, Gordon Levi wrote:

> Martin Gregorie <martin@address-in-sig.invalid> wrote:
> 
>>On Mon, 31 Aug 2015 05:39:12 -0700, arya.neelan wrote:
>>
>>> Am a beginner in java programming and would like to know about books
>>> that can teach the basics of java. Keep in mind i know nothing about
>>> java
>>
>>I taught myself Java with Ivor Horton's "Beginning Java". Its reasonably
>>well written, covered all the topics I needed and provided decent
>>example code and exercises. About the worst you can say is that the
>>latest edition seems to be for Java 7.
>>
>>It may be relevant to this recommendation that I'd been writing C for at
>>least 10 years when I picked up Java.
> 
> I can't recommend a particular book but I would strongly advise the OP
> to take note of that last sentence. The text books I have consulted
> waste space by telling me how Java differs from, or is similar to, C[++]
> although I have carefully avoided anything later than K&R C.
> 
> If you don't know C++ don't adopt a Java text book that mentions it.
>
There's no reason for a book that teaches Java to mention any other 
programming language. Ever. I only mentioned that I already had quite 
extensive C experience to show that I already had a programming 
background which might unintentionally bias my view of what is or is not 
a suitable book to learn Java from.

The Horton book doesn't mention C, C++ or any other programming language. 
Its introduction starts by summarising the Java runtime and compilation 
systems followed by a language-free introduction to objects, classes and 
packages, the general structure of a Java program and the standard class 
library. Then it introduces Java from first principles.

In this its structure is quite similar to "The C Programming Language" by 
Kernighan & Richie - IMO one of the best 'how to program in XXXX' books 
ever written.

The only thing it doesn't mention, and probably should, is javadocs. IMO 
a short chapter giving an intro to javadocs and hints on how to use them 
effectively would be useful.


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  Re: Beginner Ramon F Herrera <ramon@conexus.net> - 2015-09-02 16:33 -0500
    Re: Beginner Arne Vajhøj <arne@vajhoej.dk> - 2015-09-03 20:13 -0400
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  Re: Beginner Martin Gregorie <martin@address-in-sig.invalid> - 2015-09-03 10:39 +0000
    Re: Beginner Gordon Levi <gordon@address.invalid> - 2015-09-04 01:16 +1000
      Re: Beginner Martin Gregorie <martin@address-in-sig.invalid> - 2015-09-03 18:50 +0000
        Re: Beginner Arne Vajhøj <arne@vajhoej.dk> - 2015-09-03 20:11 -0400
          Re: Beginner Martin Gregorie <martin@address-in-sig.invalid> - 2015-09-04 08:38 +0000
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      Re: Beginner Martin Gregorie <martin@address-in-sig.invalid> - 2015-09-04 08:41 +0000
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    Re: Beginner Arne Vajhøj <arne@vajhoej.dk> - 2015-09-06 21:44 -0400
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      Re: Beginner Martin Gregorie <martin@address-in-sig.invalid> - 2015-09-07 08:43 +0000
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