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On Thu, 03 Sep 2015 20:11:04 -0400, Arne Vajhøj wrote:

> On 9/3/2015 2:50 PM, Martin Gregorie wrote:
>> On Fri, 04 Sep 2015 01:16:48 +1000, Gordon Levi wrote:
>>> Martin Gregorie <martin@address-in-sig.invalid> wrote:
>>>> It may be relevant to this recommendation that I'd been writing C for
>>>> at least 10 years when I picked up Java.
>>>
>>> I can't recommend a particular book but I would strongly advise the OP
>>> to take note of that last sentence. The text books I have consulted
>>> waste space by telling me how Java differs from, or is similar to,
>>> C[++]
>>> although I have carefully avoided anything later than K&R C.
>>>
>>> If you don't know C++ don't adopt a Java text book that mentions it.
>>>
>> There's no reason for a book that teaches Java to mention any other
>> programming language. Ever. I only mentioned that I already had quite
>> extensive C experience to show that I already had a programming
>> background which might unintentionally bias my view of what is or is
>> not a suitable book to learn Java from.
> 
> Sometimes making a comparison to popular languages can provide a lot of
> info for very little text for those that know that language.
> 
Yes, agreed, but that implies that the reader has a reasonable amount of 
experience with the other language. C or C++ references are useless or 
worse for a COBOL, Fortran or RPG2 programmer. 

What you're really saying is that we need two types of programming books: 
one for ab initios and another for those who are learning an additional 
language. I'm not disagreeing, but would say that its probably easier to 
write a good ab initio book than it is to write an equally good book that 
assumes prior knowledge.
 

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  Re: Beginner Martin Gregorie <martin@address-in-sig.invalid> - 2015-09-03 10:39 +0000
    Re: Beginner Gordon Levi <gordon@address.invalid> - 2015-09-04 01:16 +1000
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        Re: Beginner Arne Vajhøj <arne@vajhoej.dk> - 2015-09-03 20:11 -0400
          Re: Beginner Martin Gregorie <martin@address-in-sig.invalid> - 2015-09-04 08:38 +0000
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