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Re: API vc MVC

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On 01/08/2015 00:34, Arne Vajhøj wrote:
> On 7/31/2015 9:10 AM, Silvio wrote:
>> On 07/31/2015 04:53 AM, Arne Vajhøj wrote:
>>> On 7/29/2015 11:30 AM, Eternal Hope wrote:
>>>> On 29/07/2015 13:14, e.d.programmer@gmail.com wrote:

<snip>

> You don't need that big a project to want:
> - some sort of configuration to glue things together

java.util.properties
java.util.preferences
xml and javax.xml and yes I realize that javax means extension.

> - persistence of data

plain vanilla sql
java.sql
javax.sql
suitable implementation of a jdbc driver

> - build

ant, not a framework

> - UI

html5, css3, plain vanilla javascript

> - unit tests

really, ok, well JUnit is a framework, it's hardly required though is it

> So you find something that meet your requirements. It can be:

What you don't seem to understand is that all these various frameworks 
are largely built out of 'standard' java. They are effectivley elevating 
the language to a higher level. Higher level, more abstract, high 
payload (stuff you will never use)

I stick to plain vanilla when I can and I don't mind admitting it and 
there's not much I can't do, in fact I can't think of anything I can't 
do and I don't need a framework to do it. My SQL is spare, and usually 
works OOTB, my java compiles first time. Years of practice and studious 
avoidance of frameworks.

Give me a basic text editor, a terminal and a runtime and compiler and 
I'm good to go

> - DIY framework
> - third party light framework
> - third party heavy framework
> but you need something.

You don't, you really don't



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API vc MVC Leonan Luppi <leonan.luppi@gmail.com> - 2015-05-11 19:04 -0700
  Re: API vc MVC Joerg Meier <joergmmeier@arcor.de> - 2015-05-12 08:09 +0200
    Re: API vc MVC Arne Vajhøj <arne@vajhoej.dk> - 2015-07-27 22:36 -0400
  Re: API vc MVC Arne Vajhøj <arne@vajhoej.dk> - 2015-07-27 22:40 -0400
    Re: API vc MVC Richard Maher <maher_rjSPAMLESS@hotmail.com> - 2015-07-28 11:55 +0800
      Re: API vc MVC Arne Vajhøj <arne@vajhoej.dk> - 2015-07-28 18:56 -0400
        Re: API vc MVC Richard Maher <maher_rjSPAMLESS@hotmail.com> - 2015-07-29 07:03 +0800
          Re: API vc MVC Richard Maher <maher_rjSPAMLESS@hotmail.com> - 2015-07-29 08:10 +0800
            Re: API vc MVC Arne Vajhøj <arne@vajhoej.dk> - 2015-07-30 22:43 -0400
          Re: API vc MVC e.d.programmer@gmail.com - 2015-07-29 05:14 -0700
            Re: API vc MVC Eternal Hope <laughingspam99@gmail.com> - 2015-07-29 16:30 +0100
              Re: API vc MVC Richard Maher <maher_rjSPAMLESS@hotmail.com> - 2015-07-30 05:46 +0800
                Re: API vc MVC Arne Vajhøj <arne@vajhoej.dk> - 2015-07-30 22:56 -0400
              Re: API vc MVC Arne Vajhøj <arne@vajhoej.dk> - 2015-07-30 22:53 -0400
                Re: API vc MVC Silvio <silvio@internet.com> - 2015-07-31 15:10 +0200
                Re: API vc MVC Silvio <silvio@internet.com> - 2015-07-31 15:12 +0200
                Re: API vc MVC Richard Maher <maher_rjSPAMLESS@hotmail.com> - 2015-08-01 09:04 +0800
                Re: API vc MVC Arne Vajhøj <arne@vajhoej.dk> - 2015-07-31 19:34 -0400
                Re: API vc MVC Eternal Hope <laughingspam99@gmail.com> - 2015-08-01 05:39 +0100
                Re: API vc MVC Martin Gregorie <martin@address-in-sig.invalid> - 2015-08-01 10:13 +0000
                Re: API vc MVC Eternal Hope <laughingspam99@gmail.com> - 2015-08-01 21:54 +0100
                Re: API vc MVC Martin Gregorie <martin@address-in-sig.invalid> - 2015-08-01 22:49 +0000
                Re: API vc MVC Eternal Hope <laughingspam99@gmail.com> - 2015-08-02 07:57 +0100
                Re: API vc MVC Martin Gregorie <martin@address-in-sig.invalid> - 2015-08-02 07:49 +0000
                Re: API vc MVC Eternal Hope <laughingspam99@gmail.com> - 2015-08-02 09:28 +0100
            Re: API vc MVC Arne Vajhøj <arne@vajhoej.dk> - 2015-07-30 22:45 -0400
              Re: API vc MVC e.d.programmer@gmail.com - 2015-07-31 05:31 -0700
          Re: API vc MVC Arne Vajhøj <arne@vajhoej.dk> - 2015-07-30 22:41 -0400
        Re: API vc MVC Eternal Hope <laughingspam99@gmail.com> - 2015-07-29 16:24 +0100

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