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Re: [OT] Re: missing import java.lang.Comparable

From Gene Wirchenko <genew@telus.net>
Newsgroups comp.lang.java.programmer
Subject Re: [OT] Re: missing import java.lang.Comparable
Date 2016-07-15 15:52 -0700
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On Fri, 15 Jul 2016 15:38:25 -0400, Jerry Stuckle
<jstucklex@attglobal.net> wrote:

>On 7/15/2016 2:39 PM, Gene Wirchenko wrote:
>> On Fri, 8 Jul 2016 20:59:38 -0400, Jerry Stuckle
>> <jstucklex@attglobal.net> wrote:
>> 
>> [snip]
>>> Not when you're talking figures in the hundreds of billions of dollars.
>>> Not even doubles will go to 999,999,999,999.999999.
>> 
>>      Any type has limitations.  I can get 15 digits of precision in
>> JavaScript.  That is enough for unit trillions with two decimal
>> digits.

>How about with six decimal digits - as financial calculations require?
>It doesn't even make it to one billion.

     Which financial calculations are those?  Certainly not all of
them.

>Also, who cares about javascript?

     People who snipe about it is one group.

>>> Packed decimal easily handles this and even larger.
>> 
>>      When it is available.

>Which is a big reason why COBOL is still the most commonly used language
>in finance (including banks, insurance companies and governments).

     Of course.

     But when one has lemons ...

Sincerely,

Gene Wirchenko

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missing import java.lang.Comparable Roedy Green <inquiry@mindprod.com> - 2016-06-28 21:34 -0700
  Re: missing import java.lang.Comparable Andreas Leitgeb <avl@logic.at> - 2016-06-29 05:56 +0000
    Re: missing import java.lang.Comparable Roedy Green <inquiry@mindprod.com> - 2016-06-28 23:59 -0700
      Re: missing import java.lang.Comparable Matthias Wiehl <mw@kwarg.de> - 2016-06-29 09:52 +0200
        Re: missing import java.lang.Comparable Roedy Green <inquiry@mindprod.com> - 2016-06-29 01:16 -0700
          Re: missing import java.lang.Comparable Eric Douglas <e.d.programmer@gmail.com> - 2016-06-29 06:38 -0700
        Re: missing import java.lang.Comparable Martin Gregorie <martin@address-in-sig.invalid> - 2016-06-30 13:24 +0000
          Re: missing import java.lang.Comparable Eric Douglas <e.d.programmer@gmail.com> - 2016-06-30 06:37 -0700
            Re: missing import java.lang.Comparable Eric Sosman <esosman@comcast-dot-net.invalid> - 2016-06-30 10:19 -0400
              Re: missing import java.lang.Comparable Eric Douglas <e.d.programmer@gmail.com> - 2016-06-30 07:47 -0700
                Re: missing import java.lang.Comparable Eric Sosman <esosman@comcast-dot-net.invalid> - 2016-06-30 11:17 -0400
                Re: missing import java.lang.Comparable Martin Gregorie <martin@address-in-sig.invalid> - 2016-06-30 18:23 +0000
                Re: missing import java.lang.Comparable Eric Sosman <esosman@comcast-dot-net.invalid> - 2016-06-30 15:24 -0400
                Re: missing import java.lang.Comparable Eric Douglas <e.d.programmer@gmail.com> - 2016-06-30 12:47 -0700
                Re: missing import java.lang.Comparable Eric Sosman <esosman@comcast-dot-net.invalid> - 2016-06-30 16:38 -0400
                Re: missing import java.lang.Comparable Martin Gregorie <martin@address-in-sig.invalid> - 2016-06-30 21:09 +0000
                Re: missing import java.lang.Comparable Andreas Leitgeb <avl@logic.at> - 2016-07-01 06:45 +0000
                Re: missing import java.lang.Comparable Eric Douglas <e.d.programmer@gmail.com> - 2016-07-01 05:03 -0700
                Re: missing import java.lang.Comparable Andreas Leitgeb <avl@logic.at> - 2016-07-03 20:46 +0000
                Re: missing import java.lang.Comparable Lew <lewbloch@gmail.com> - 2016-07-01 15:21 -0700
                Re: missing import java.lang.Comparable Andreas Leitgeb <avl@logic.at> - 2016-07-03 21:10 +0000
                Re: missing import java.lang.Comparable Lew <lewbloch@gmail.com> - 2016-07-04 16:08 -0700
                Program proof Mike Amling <mamling@chaff.us> - 2016-07-05 11:23 -0500
                Re: Program proof Andreas Leitgeb <avl@logic.at> - 2016-07-05 18:08 +0000
                Re: missing import java.lang.Comparable Andreas Leitgeb <avl@logic.at> - 2016-07-05 17:23 +0000
                Re: missing import java.lang.Comparable Lew <lewbloch@gmail.com> - 2016-07-05 14:28 -0700
                Re: missing import java.lang.Comparable Andreas Leitgeb <avl@logic.at> - 2016-07-07 15:22 +0000
                Re: missing import java.lang.Comparable Eric Sosman <esosman@comcast-dot-net.invalid> - 2016-07-07 11:44 -0400
                Re: missing import java.lang.Comparable Eric Sosman <esosman@comcast-dot-net.invalid> - 2016-07-07 12:57 -0400
                Re: missing import java.lang.Comparable Andreas Leitgeb <avl@logic.at> - 2016-07-07 18:29 +0000
                [OT] Re: missing import java.lang.Comparable Eric Sosman <esosman@comcast-dot-net.invalid> - 2016-07-07 15:48 -0400
                Re: [OT] Re: missing import java.lang.Comparable Andreas Leitgeb <avl@logic.at> - 2016-07-08 08:01 +0000
                Re: [OT] Re: missing import java.lang.Comparable Eric Sosman <esosman@comcast-dot-net.invalid> - 2016-07-08 08:25 -0400
                Re: [OT] Re: missing import java.lang.Comparable Eric Douglas <e.d.programmer@gmail.com> - 2016-07-08 06:55 -0700
                Re: [OT] Re: missing import java.lang.Comparable Eric Sosman <esosman@comcast-dot-net.invalid> - 2016-07-08 10:16 -0400
                Re: [OT] Re: missing import java.lang.Comparable Eric Douglas <e.d.programmer@gmail.com> - 2016-07-08 07:35 -0700
                Re: [OT] Re: missing import java.lang.Comparable Andreas Leitgeb <avl@logic.at> - 2016-07-08 18:07 +0000
                Re: [OT] Re: missing import java.lang.Comparable Eric Douglas <e.d.programmer@gmail.com> - 2016-07-08 12:54 -0700
                Re: [OT] Re: missing import java.lang.Comparable Jerry Stuckle <jstucklex@attglobal.net> - 2016-07-08 16:29 -0400
                Re: [OT] Re: missing import java.lang.Comparable Gene Wirchenko <genew@telus.net> - 2016-07-08 14:06 -0700
                Re: [OT] Re: missing import java.lang.Comparable Arne Vajhøj <arne@vajhoej.dk> - 2016-07-08 20:11 -0400
                Re: [OT] Re: missing import java.lang.Comparable Gene Wirchenko <genew@telus.net> - 2016-07-15 11:37 -0700
                Re: [OT] Re: missing import java.lang.Comparable Arne Vajhøj <arne@vajhoej.dk> - 2016-07-15 16:36 -0400
                Re: [OT] Re: missing import java.lang.Comparable Gene Wirchenko <genew@telus.net> - 2016-07-15 15:49 -0700
                Re: [OT] Re: missing import java.lang.Comparable Arne Vajhøj <arne@vajhoej.dk> - 2016-07-15 22:09 -0400
                Re: [OT] Re: missing import java.lang.Comparable Martin Gregorie <martin@address-in-sig.invalid> - 2016-07-16 13:04 +0000
                Re: [OT] Re: missing import java.lang.Comparable Gene Wirchenko <genew@telus.net> - 2016-07-18 13:08 -0700
                Re: [OT] Re: missing import java.lang.Comparable Arne Vajhøj <arne@vajhoej.dk> - 2016-07-18 19:56 -0400
                Re: [OT] Re: missing import java.lang.Comparable Jerry Stuckle <jstucklex@attglobal.net> - 2016-07-08 20:59 -0400
                Re: [OT] Re: missing import java.lang.Comparable Martin Gregorie <martin@address-in-sig.invalid> - 2016-07-09 11:57 +0000
                Re: [OT] Re: missing import java.lang.Comparable Jerry Stuckle <jstucklex@attglobal.net> - 2016-07-09 09:39 -0400
                Re: [OT] Re: missing import java.lang.Comparable Martin Gregorie <martin@address-in-sig.invalid> - 2016-07-09 14:43 +0000
                Re: [OT] Re: missing import java.lang.Comparable Jerry Stuckle <jstucklex@attglobal.net> - 2016-07-09 11:15 -0400
                Re: [OT] Re: missing import java.lang.Comparable Jerry Stuckle <jstucklex@attglobal.net> - 2016-07-09 09:46 -0400
                Re: [OT] Re: missing import java.lang.Comparable Martin Gregorie <martin@address-in-sig.invalid> - 2016-07-09 15:21 +0000
                Re: [OT] Re: missing import java.lang.Comparable Jerry Stuckle <jstucklex@attglobal.net> - 2016-07-09 11:27 -0400
                Re: [OT] Re: missing import java.lang.Comparable Gene Wirchenko <genew@telus.net> - 2016-07-15 11:39 -0700
                Re: [OT] Re: missing import java.lang.Comparable Jerry Stuckle <jstucklex@attglobal.net> - 2016-07-15 15:38 -0400
                Re: [OT] Re: missing import java.lang.Comparable Gene Wirchenko <genew@telus.net> - 2016-07-15 15:52 -0700
                Re: [OT] Re: missing import java.lang.Comparable Jerry Stuckle <jstucklex@attglobal.net> - 2016-07-15 19:19 -0400
                Re: [OT] Re: missing import java.lang.Comparable Gene Wirchenko <genew@telus.net> - 2016-07-18 13:10 -0700
                Re: [OT] Re: missing import java.lang.Comparable Jerry Stuckle <jstucklex@attglobal.net> - 2016-07-18 16:26 -0400
                Re: [OT] Re: missing import java.lang.Comparable Eric Douglas <e.d.programmer@gmail.com> - 2016-07-18 13:58 -0700
                Re: [OT] Re: missing import java.lang.Comparable Gene Wirchenko <genew@telus.net> - 2016-07-18 16:30 -0700
                Re: [OT] Re: missing import java.lang.Comparable Jerry Stuckle <jstucklex@attglobal.net> - 2016-07-18 20:24 -0400
                Re: [OT] Re: missing import java.lang.Comparable Eric Douglas <e.d.programmer@gmail.com> - 2016-07-19 05:14 -0700
                Re: [OT] Re: missing import java.lang.Comparable Arne Vajhøj <arne@vajhoej.dk> - 2016-07-19 20:22 -0400
                Re: [OT] Re: missing import java.lang.Comparable Gene Wirchenko <genew@telus.net> - 2016-07-19 10:31 -0700
                Re: [OT] Re: missing import java.lang.Comparable Jerry Stuckle <jstucklex@attglobal.net> - 2016-07-19 16:37 -0400
                Re: [OT] Re: missing import java.lang.Comparable Gene Wirchenko <genew@telus.net> - 2016-07-19 14:44 -0700
                Re: [OT] Re: missing import java.lang.Comparable Jerry Stuckle <jstucklex@attglobal.net> - 2016-07-19 21:16 -0400
                Re: [OT] Re: missing import java.lang.Comparable Martin Gregorie <martin@address-in-sig.invalid> - 2016-07-19 21:54 +0000
                Re: [OT] Re: missing import java.lang.Comparable Arne Vajhøj <arne@vajhoej.dk> - 2016-07-19 20:17 -0400
                Re: [OT] Re: missing import java.lang.Comparable Gene Wirchenko <genew@telus.net> - 2016-07-20 12:01 -0700
                Re: [OT] Re: missing import java.lang.Comparable Martin Gregorie <martin@address-in-sig.invalid> - 2016-07-20 21:28 +0000
                Re: [OT] Re: missing import java.lang.Comparable Gene Wirchenko <genew@telus.net> - 2016-07-20 16:14 -0700
                Re: [OT] Re: missing import java.lang.Comparable Arne Vajhøj <arne@vajhoej.dk> - 2016-07-19 20:18 -0400
                Re: [OT] Re: missing import java.lang.Comparable Jerry Stuckle <jstucklex@attglobal.net> - 2016-07-19 21:33 -0400
                Re: [OT] Re: missing import java.lang.Comparable Arne Vajhøj <arne@vajhoej.dk> - 2016-07-19 21:56 -0400
                Re: [OT] Re: missing import java.lang.Comparable Jerry Stuckle <jstucklex@attglobal.net> - 2016-07-19 23:47 -0400
                Re: [OT] Re: missing import java.lang.Comparable Arne Vajhøj <arne@vajhoej.dk> - 2016-07-22 23:31 -0400
                Re: [OT] Re: missing import java.lang.Comparable Jerry Stuckle <jstucklex@attglobal.net> - 2016-07-23 10:24 -0400
                Re: [OT] Re: missing import java.lang.Comparable Arne Vajhøj <arne@vajhoej.dk> - 2016-07-23 21:26 -0400
                Re: [OT] Re: missing import java.lang.Comparable Lew <lewbloch@gmail.com> - 2016-07-23 19:23 -0700
                Re: [OT] Re: missing import java.lang.Comparable Arne Vajhøj <arne@vajhoej.dk> - 2016-07-23 23:08 -0400
                Re: [OT] Re: missing import java.lang.Comparable Jerry Stuckle <jstucklex@attglobal.net> - 2016-07-24 10:44 -0400
                Re: [OT] Re: missing import java.lang.Comparable Jerry Stuckle <jstucklex@attglobal.net> - 2016-07-24 10:44 -0400
                Re: [OT] Re: missing import java.lang.Comparable Jerry Stuckle <jstucklex@attglobal.net> - 2016-07-20 16:04 -0400
                Re: [OT] Re: missing import java.lang.Comparable Lew <lewbloch@gmail.com> - 2016-07-20 14:51 -0700
                Re: [OT] Re: missing import java.lang.Comparable Jerry Stuckle <jstucklex@attglobal.net> - 2016-07-20 22:57 -0400
                Re: [OT] Re: missing import java.lang.Comparable Lew <lewbloch@gmail.com> - 2016-07-21 11:38 -0700
                Re: [OT] Re: missing import java.lang.Comparable Jerry Stuckle <jstucklex@attglobal.net> - 2016-07-21 15:57 -0400
                Re: [OT] Re: missing import java.lang.Comparable Lew <lewbloch@gmail.com> - 2016-07-21 13:45 -0700
                Re: [OT] Re: missing import java.lang.Comparable Jerry Stuckle <jstucklex@attglobal.net> - 2016-07-21 21:00 -0400
                Re: [OT] Re: missing import java.lang.Comparable Lew <lewbloch@gmail.com> - 2016-07-22 15:28 -0700
                Re: [OT] Re: missing import java.lang.Comparable Jerry Stuckle <jstucklex@attglobal.net> - 2016-07-22 19:34 -0400
                Re: [OT] Re: missing import java.lang.Comparable Arne Vajhøj <arne@vajhoej.dk> - 2016-07-22 23:36 -0400
                Re: [OT] Re: missing import java.lang.Comparable Jerry Stuckle <jstucklex@attglobal.net> - 2016-07-23 10:25 -0400
                Re: [OT] Re: missing import java.lang.Comparable Martin Gregorie <martin@address-in-sig.invalid> - 2016-07-23 10:58 +0000
                Re: [OT] Re: missing import java.lang.Comparable Arne Vajhøj <arne@vajhoej.dk> - 2016-07-23 09:32 -0400
                Re: [OT] Re: missing import java.lang.Comparable Arne Vajhøj <arne@vajhoej.dk> - 2016-07-22 23:34 -0400
                Re: [OT] Re: missing import java.lang.Comparable Jerry Stuckle <jstucklex@attglobal.net> - 2016-07-23 10:25 -0400
                Re: [OT] Re: missing import java.lang.Comparable Lew <lewbloch@gmail.com> - 2016-07-23 17:04 -0700
                Re: [OT] Re: missing import java.lang.Comparable Jerry Stuckle <jstucklex@attglobal.net> - 2016-07-24 10:46 -0400
                Re: [OT] Re: missing import java.lang.Comparable Arne Vajhøj <arne@vajhoej.dk> - 2016-07-23 21:23 -0400
                Re: [OT] Re: missing import java.lang.Comparable Jerry Stuckle <jstucklex@attglobal.net> - 2016-07-24 10:47 -0400
                Re: [OT] Re: missing import java.lang.Comparable Arne Vajhøj <arne@vajhoej.dk> - 2016-07-22 23:40 -0400
                Re: [OT] Re: missing import java.lang.Comparable Arne Vajhøj <arne@vajhoej.dk> - 2016-07-18 20:02 -0400
                Re: [OT] Re: missing import java.lang.Comparable Jerry Stuckle <jstucklex@attglobal.net> - 2016-07-18 20:26 -0400
                Re: [OT] Re: missing import java.lang.Comparable Arne Vajhøj <arne@vajhoej.dk> - 2016-07-18 20:35 -0400
                Re: [OT] Re: missing import java.lang.Comparable Arne Vajhøj <arne@vajhoej.dk> - 2016-07-18 19:59 -0400
                Re: [OT] Re: missing import java.lang.Comparable Martin Gregorie <martin@address-in-sig.invalid> - 2016-07-08 23:36 +0000
                Re: [OT] Re: missing import java.lang.Comparable Arne Vajhøj <arne@vajhoej.dk> - 2016-07-08 20:09 -0400
                Re: [OT] Re: missing import java.lang.Comparable Martin Gregorie <martin@address-in-sig.invalid> - 2016-07-09 12:51 +0000
                Re: [OT] Re: missing import java.lang.Comparable Eric Sosman <esosman@comcast-dot-net.invalid> - 2016-07-09 09:15 -0400
                Re: [OT] Re: missing import java.lang.Comparable Martin Gregorie <martin@address-in-sig.invalid> - 2016-07-09 14:30 +0000
                Re: [OT] Re: missing import java.lang.Comparable Jerry Stuckle <jstucklex@attglobal.net> - 2016-07-09 09:44 -0400
                Re: [OT] Re: missing import java.lang.Comparable Martin Gregorie <martin@address-in-sig.invalid> - 2016-07-09 14:37 +0000
                Re: [OT] Re: missing import java.lang.Comparable Jerry Stuckle <jstucklex@attglobal.net> - 2016-07-09 11:14 -0400
                Re: [OT] Re: missing import java.lang.Comparable Arne Vajhøj <arne@vajhoej.dk> - 2016-07-09 20:09 -0400
                Re: [OT] Re: missing import java.lang.Comparable Martin Gregorie <martin@address-in-sig.invalid> - 2016-07-10 01:11 +0000
                Re: [OT] Re: missing import java.lang.Comparable Arne Vajhøj <arne@vajhoej.dk> - 2016-07-09 21:52 -0400
                Re: [OT] Re: missing import java.lang.Comparable Martin Gregorie <martin@address-in-sig.invalid> - 2016-07-10 10:34 +0000
                Re: [OT] Re: missing import java.lang.Comparable Jerry Stuckle <jstucklex@attglobal.net> - 2016-07-08 21:03 -0400
                Re: [OT] Re: missing import java.lang.Comparable Arne Vajhøj <arne@vajhoej.dk> - 2016-07-08 20:32 -0400
                Re: [OT] Re: missing import java.lang.Comparable Eric Douglas <e.d.programmer@gmail.com> - 2016-07-11 05:30 -0700
                Re: [OT] Re: missing import java.lang.Comparable Martin Gregorie <martin@address-in-sig.invalid> - 2016-07-11 16:26 +0000
                Re: [OT] Re: missing import java.lang.Comparable Eric Sosman <esosman@comcast-dot-net.invalid> - 2016-07-11 13:56 -0400
                Re: [OT] Re: missing import java.lang.Comparable Eric Douglas <e.d.programmer@gmail.com> - 2016-07-11 10:59 -0700
                Re: [OT] Re: missing import java.lang.Comparable Eric Sosman <esosman@comcast-dot-net.invalid> - 2016-07-11 15:09 -0400
                Re: [OT] Re: missing import java.lang.Comparable Eric Douglas <e.d.programmer@gmail.com> - 2016-07-11 13:44 -0700
                Re: [OT] Re: missing import java.lang.Comparable Eric Sosman <esosman@comcast-dot-net.invalid> - 2016-07-11 17:21 -0400
                Re: [OT] Re: missing import java.lang.Comparable Eric Douglas <e.d.programmer@gmail.com> - 2016-07-11 10:56 -0700
                Re: [OT] Re: missing import java.lang.Comparable Lew <lewbloch@gmail.com> - 2016-07-11 11:49 -0700
                Re: [OT] Re: missing import java.lang.Comparable Martin Gregorie <martin@address-in-sig.invalid> - 2016-07-11 21:00 +0000
                Re: [OT] Re: missing import java.lang.Comparable Arne Vajhøj <arne@vajhoej.dk> - 2016-07-11 22:30 -0400
                Re: [OT] Re: missing import java.lang.Comparable Arne Vajhøj <arne@vajhoej.dk> - 2016-07-11 22:36 -0400
                Re: [OT] Re: missing import java.lang.Comparable Eric Douglas <e.d.programmer@gmail.com> - 2016-07-12 11:37 -0700
                Re: [OT] Re: missing import java.lang.Comparable Lew <lewbloch@gmail.com> - 2016-07-12 13:01 -0700
                Re: [OT] Re: missing import java.lang.Comparable Arne Vajhøj <arne@vajhoej.dk> - 2016-07-12 20:31 -0400
                Re: [OT] Re: missing import java.lang.Comparable Arne Vajhøj <arne@vajhoej.dk> - 2016-07-11 22:13 -0400
                Re: [OT] Re: missing import java.lang.Comparable Arne Vajhøj <arne@vajhoej.dk> - 2016-07-08 20:18 -0400
                Re: [OT] Re: missing import java.lang.Comparable Lew <lewbloch@gmail.com> - 2016-07-08 15:14 -0700
                Re: [OT] Re: missing import java.lang.Comparable Andreas Leitgeb <avl@logic.at> - 2016-07-08 17:59 +0000
                Re: [OT] Re: missing import java.lang.Comparable Eric Sosman <esosman@comcast-dot-net.invalid> - 2016-07-08 14:34 -0400
                Re: [OT] Re: missing import java.lang.Comparable Lew <lewbloch@gmail.com> - 2016-07-08 15:18 -0700
                Re: [OT] Re: missing import java.lang.Comparable Andreas Leitgeb <avl@logic.at> - 2016-07-08 23:50 +0000
                Re: missing import java.lang.Comparable Lew <lewbloch@gmail.com> - 2016-07-07 13:18 -0700
                Re: missing import java.lang.Comparable Arne Vajhøj <arne@vajhoej.dk> - 2016-07-07 16:59 -0400
                Re: missing import java.lang.Comparable Lew <lewbloch@gmail.com> - 2016-07-08 15:05 -0700
                Re: missing import java.lang.Comparable Arne Vajhøj <arne@vajhoej.dk> - 2016-07-08 19:51 -0400
                Re: missing import java.lang.Comparable Arne Vajhøj <arne@vajhoej.dk> - 2016-07-07 17:07 -0400
                Re: missing import java.lang.Comparable Martin Gregorie <martin@address-in-sig.invalid> - 2016-06-30 20:44 +0000
              Re: missing import java.lang.Comparable Arne Vajhøj <arne@vajhoej.dk> - 2016-07-07 16:56 -0400
            Re: missing import java.lang.Comparable a.laforgia@gmail.com - 2016-06-30 08:32 -0700
              Re: missing import java.lang.Comparable Eric Douglas <e.d.programmer@gmail.com> - 2016-06-30 08:59 -0700
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                Re: missing import java.lang.Comparable Eric Douglas <e.d.programmer@gmail.com> - 2016-06-30 09:35 -0700
              Re: missing import java.lang.Comparable Lew <lewbloch@gmail.com> - 2016-06-30 11:18 -0700
            Re: missing import java.lang.Comparable Andreas Leitgeb <avl@logic.at> - 2016-07-03 20:57 +0000

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