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Re: error discription and solution

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On 03/03/14 10:56, Joerg Meier wrote:
> On Mon, 03 Mar 2014 09:27:53 +0000, lipska the kat wrote:
>
>> On 26/02/14 20:26, Joerg Meier wrote:
>>> On Wed, 26 Feb 2014 19:30:12 +0000, lipska the kat wrote:
>>>> Agreed, classpath confusions notwithstanding, (which IME can cause a lot
>>>> of problems to noobs) Apache commons stuff is not so bad, you can get to
>>>> the commons site and track down the relevant jar easily enough but
>>>> trying to figure out which jar contains
>>>> com.foobar.hidden.widget.PoopScoop and where to get it is a different
>>>> matter altogether.
>>> Jarfinder is helpful in these scenarios,
>> I'm trying to get the Java DBus bindings to compile but I can't find the
>> required jars to compile the libraries and presumably the jars but there
>> are no jars etc etc etc
>
>> git clone git://anongit.freedesktop.org/git/dbus/dbus-java
>
>> $ make
>
>> warning: [path] bad path element "/usr/share/java/unix.jar": no such
>> file or directory
>
> If it used Maven, then it would at this point have downloaded everything
> you needed. Of course, it would have downloaded it from the internet, which
> you seem to find objectionable for some reason,

Well now we don't want another flame war here do we so I'll just ignore 
all the aspersion casting and assumptions about my abilities.

I did search something calling itself a Maven repository to no avail, 
actually it turns out that the relevant jars need compiling on the 
system on which they are going to be used as there seems to be all sorts 
of platform specific C code and jni stuff that needs compiling with the 
gcc toolchain ... apparently.

So, once I figured this out and downloaded the code for the missing jars 
(which I found via a good old fashioned Google search) I compiled same 
and ended up the missing jars and a couple of platform specific shared 
libraries.

So, now I could install the libs and the jars and compile the bindings, 
once I had fixed the makefile to point at the correct directory that is.

And here we are, the libs are installed, the bindings are compiled and I 
have three nice new jar files (a different three jar files) that I can 
tell Eclipse about and away we go ... hopefully, although I'm not 
holding my breath :-)

Maven wouldn't have helped in this case would it? I couldn't know the 
names of the binding jars as I couldn't compile them because the jars 
required to compile the bindings were missing until I compiled them, it 
was the jars required to compile the bindings that I was missing, not 
the binding jars themselves.

What would Maven have made of this I wonder ... how much would I have 
learned by 'leaving it all to Maven'. At least I now know what the 
problem was and how to fix it.

If you don't understand this then I suggest that sooner or later you are 
going to come up against a problem that the tools can't fix and then 
you'll be stuck, won't you?

I'd rather use the bare minimum of tools to get the job done.
How much time have I saved, or rather not wasted by not spending it 
learning the latest greatest tool only for it to be superseded a few 
weeks/months/years later by the next latest greatest tool. I can write 
compile and run Java with a simple text editor, a terminal window and a 
shell script if I have to. I certainly don't need Maven to hold my hand.

<snip>

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  Re: error discription and solution Lew <lewbloch@gmail.com> - 2014-02-20 14:05 -0800
  Re: error discription and solution Roedy Green <see_website@mindprod.com.invalid> - 2014-02-21 08:56 -0800
    Re: error discription and solution lipska the kat <lipskathekat@example.com> - 2014-02-21 17:53 +0000
      Re: error discription and solution Roedy Green <see_website@mindprod.com.invalid> - 2014-02-26 10:22 -0800
        Re: error discription and solution lipska the kat <lipskathekat@example.com> - 2014-02-26 19:30 +0000
          Re: error discription and solution Joerg Meier <joergmmeier@arcor.de> - 2014-02-26 21:26 +0100
            Re: error discription and solution lipska the kat <lipskathekat@example.com> - 2014-02-26 21:19 +0000
              Re: error discription and solution Joerg Meier <joergmmeier@arcor.de> - 2014-02-26 23:04 +0100
              Re: error discription and solution leif.roar@invalid.com (Leif Roar Moldskred) - 2014-02-26 16:53 -0600
                Re: error discription and solution lipska the kat <lipskathekat@example.com> - 2014-02-27 08:34 +0000
            Re: error discription and solution lipska the kat <lipskathekat@example.com> - 2014-03-03 09:27 +0000
              Re: error discription and solution Joerg Meier <joergmmeier@arcor.de> - 2014-03-03 11:56 +0100
                Re: error discription and solution lipska the kat <lipskathekat@example.com> - 2014-03-03 12:08 +0000
                Re: error discription and solution leif.roar@invalid.com (Leif Roar Moldskred) - 2014-03-03 06:26 -0600
                Re: error discription and solution lipska the kat <lipskathekat@example.com> - 2014-03-03 12:44 +0000
                Re: error discription and solution leif.roar@invalid.com (Leif Roar Moldskred) - 2014-03-03 06:58 -0600
                Re: error discription and solution Joerg Meier <joergmmeier@arcor.de> - 2014-03-03 17:11 +0100
                Re: error discription and solution leif.roar@invalid.com (Leif Roar Moldskred) - 2014-03-03 10:17 -0600
                Re: error discription and solution Joerg Meier <joergmmeier@arcor.de> - 2014-03-03 17:39 +0100
                Re: error discription and solution Simon Lewis <simonlewis2001@gmail.com> - 2014-03-03 20:47 +0100
                Re: error discription and solution Eric Sosman <esosman@comcast-dot-net.invalid> - 2014-03-03 17:04 -0500
                Re: error discription and solution "Chris Uppal" <chris.uppal@metagnostic.REMOVE-THIS.org> - 2014-03-06 15:25 +0000
                Future of computing [Was: Re: error discription and solution] Eric Sosman <esosman@comcast-dot-net.invalid> - 2014-03-06 12:03 -0500
                Re: error discription and solution lipska the kat <lipskathekat@example.com> - 2014-03-03 17:21 +0000
                Re: error discription and solution lipska the kat <lipskathekat@example.com> - 2014-03-03 17:18 +0000
                Re: error discription and solution leif.roar@invalid.com (Leif Roar Moldskred) - 2014-03-03 11:26 -0600
                Re: error discription and solution lipska the kat <lipskathekat@example.com> - 2014-03-03 18:31 +0000
                Re: error discription and solution Joerg Meier <joergmmeier@arcor.de> - 2014-03-03 21:00 +0100
                Re: error discription and solution lipska the kat <lipskathekat@example.com> - 2014-03-03 20:19 +0000
                Re: error discription and solution Simon Lewis <simonlewis2001@gmail.com> - 2014-03-03 20:46 +0100
        Re: error discription and solution Jukka Lahtinen <jtfjdehf@hotmail.com.invalid> - 2014-02-26 23:39 +0200
          Re: error discription and solution Roedy Green <see_website@mindprod.com.invalid> - 2014-02-28 09:08 -0800
            Re: error discription and solution Joerg Meier <joergmmeier@arcor.de> - 2014-02-28 20:05 +0100
              Re: error discription and solution Gene Wirchenko <genew@telus.net> - 2014-02-28 15:29 -0800
  Re: error discription and solution Arne Vajhøj <arne@vajhoej.dk> - 2014-02-21 19:48 -0500

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