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Re: Any good book/website with samples how to run Java in web applications?

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On Sunday, April 5, 2015 at 5:19:42 PM UTC-4, Arne Vajhøj wrote:
> On 4/5/2015 4:58 PM, dffdfdfdfdfdfddf@gmail.com wrote:
> > On Sunday, April 5, 2015 at 1:27:18 PM UTC-4, Arne Vajhøj wrote:
> >>
> >> There is the official Java EE tutorial.
> >>
> >> There must be thousands of tutorials on the internet.
> >>
> >> There must be hundreds of books.
> >>
> >> Just start reading.
> >>
> >> I would not be concerned about starting with something not very
> >> recent.
> >>
> >> Learning servlet, JSP and taglibs is something you should do
> >> anyway even though JSF and facelets exist today.
> >
> > Most of the books out there are just too slow and dwell too much on
> > syntax.
> 
> In my experience Java EE / Java web technology books rarely spend
> much time on syntax.
> 

 The problem is that Java web technology books lack the info I want, meaning
 complete setup so that I could jump in and run all the demos without wasting time. I am not looking for help with syntax because I can always find a source to help me with syntax. The best help is a compiler.
 
> >     I have an extensive software development experience in C and
> > other languages, also I am an impatient type who wants to see the big
> > picture from the start. Hence I need to set up the whole development
> > environment and play with simple demos that show all the concepts
> > used in a web development.
> >
> > Reading some Java code samples detached from a quick hands-on
> > playground is just not for me. I never learned much this way in the
> > past.
> 
> There are books that have exercises and runnable examples.

  The issue here is what exercises/samples, I am looking for those that cover all concepts found in web design.

> 
> >     Most of the books include Java samples about theory like sort
> > this or that, print this or that, etc. I need all concepts used in a
> > web design.
> 
> ????
> 
> If you are looking at Java books, then probably yes.
> 
> But not Java EE / Java web technology books.
> 
> First you learn Java.
> 
> And then you learn Java EE.
 
 To me Java and Java EE is the same thing. In order to learn a language you have to cover all concepts from a major application of the language. 

> 
> > I just came across one book "Professional Java for Web Applications"
> > that has many of the things I am looking for, like it provides demos
> > for each chapter and the names of free software used to run them.
> 
> Wrox books are often very good.
> 
> >                                                                   But
> > there are many holes in the explanations that will probably lead me
> > into wasting a lot of time when I try to test them out. Probably, I
> > would have to keep an experienced Java coder around me to help me out
> > and this could not be practical.
> 
> How much time do you plan on using to learn Java EE?
> 

 I plan to learn Java and Java EE at the same time, the basics can be learned relatively fast and only by running the demos and using a good development kit with good debugging/tracing capabilities.

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Any good book/website with samples how to run Java in web applications? dffdfdfdfdfdfddf@gmail.com - 2015-04-04 23:04 -0700
  Re: Any good book/website with samples how to run Java in web applications? Arne Vajhøj <arne@vajhoej.dk> - 2015-04-05 13:27 -0400
    Re: Any good book/website with samples how to run Java in web applications? dffdfdfdfdfdfddf@gmail.com - 2015-04-05 13:58 -0700
      Re: Any good book/website with samples how to run Java in web applications? Arne Vajhøj <arne@vajhoej.dk> - 2015-04-05 17:19 -0400
        Re: Any good book/website with samples how to run Java in web applications? dffdfdfdfdfdfddf@gmail.com - 2015-04-05 15:39 -0700
          Re: Any good book/website with samples how to run Java in web applications? Arne Vajhøj <arne@vajhoej.dk> - 2015-04-05 19:08 -0400
            Re: Any good book/website with samples how to run Java in web applications? dffdfdfdfdfdfddf@gmail.com - 2015-04-05 17:41 -0700
              Re: Any good book/website with samples how to run Java in web applications? Martin Gregorie <martin@address-in-sig.invalid> - 2015-04-06 14:30 +0000
              Re: Any good book/website with samples how to run Java in web applications? Robbie Brown <rob@example.com> - 2015-04-08 13:59 +0100
      Re: Any good book/website with samples how to run Java in web applications? Robert Klemme <shortcutter@googlemail.com> - 2015-04-08 19:29 +0200

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