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Ragsdale Forth assembler history "Johann Klasek - swap last two domainparts" <johann+usenet@at.klasek.invalid> - 2026-07-29 21:50 +0000
Re: Ragsdale Forth assembler history dxf <dxforth@gmail.com> - 2026-07-30 13:18 +1000
Re: Ragsdale Forth assembler history "Johann Klasek - swap last two domainparts" <johann+usenet@at.klasek.invalid> - 2026-07-31 11:04 +0000
| From | "Johann Klasek - swap last two domainparts" <johann+usenet@at.klasek.invalid> |
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| Date | 2026-07-29 21:50 +0000 |
| Subject | Ragsdale Forth assembler history |
| Message-ID | <ncvatlFt7ueU1@mid.individual.net> |
Hi folks, sometimes ago (2012) I did some re-work on a 65C02 assembler derived from the well known Ragsdale Assembler published in c't magazin, 1984/01, p. 72, "65C02 Assembler in FORTH". The aim was to support WDC commands (not just those from Rockwell). In addition to a number of performance improvements (which were due to shortcomings in the Ragsdale code), several new features were introduced: certain structure commands, as well as loop or conditional blocks, can now (using the word `FAR') span code sections of more than 127 bytes. Recently, in 2026, a number of further changes were made to improve runtime performance. https://klasek.at/forth/ also covers a number of other Forth topics, though the main focus there is on assemblers and disassemblers. My test environment is a C64 Forth/79 from Performance Micro Products, but I don't think porting it would be a problem (at least on little- endian platforms). Happy Forth-coding JEEK
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| From | dxf <dxforth@gmail.com> |
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| Date | 2026-07-30 13:18 +1000 |
| Message-ID | <6a6ac269@news.ausics.net> |
| In reply to | #135280 |
On 30/07/2026 7:50 am, Johann Klasek - swap last two domainparts wrote: > Hi folks, > > sometimes ago (2012) I did some re-work on a 65C02 assembler derived > from the well known Ragsdale Assembler published in c't magazin, > 1984/01, p. 72, "65C02 Assembler in FORTH". > > The aim was to support WDC commands (not just those from Rockwell). In > addition to a number of performance improvements (which were due to > shortcomings in the Ragsdale code), several new features were > introduced: certain structure commands, as well as loop or conditional > blocks, can now (using the word `FAR') span code sections of more than > 127 bytes. > Recently, in 2026, a number of further changes were made to improve > runtime performance. > > https://klasek.at/forth/ also covers a number of other Forth topics, > though the main focus there is on assemblers and disassemblers. > > My test environment is a C64 Forth/79 from Performance Micro Products, > but I don't think porting it would be a problem (at least on little- > endian platforms). Interesting. While I left the 6502 behind long ago, I also had need to upgrade Cassady's 8080 assembler to Z80 and again to eZ80. I deliberately retained Intel's mnemonics (with TDL extensions) knowing Zilog's would be an expensive PITA for no demonstrable gain. Indeed Zilog themselves would have preferred to use Intel's but fearing legal action, hired a third party to devise a new set: https://www.retrotechnology.com/restore/TDLmonitor.html
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| From | "Johann Klasek - swap last two domainparts" <johann+usenet@at.klasek.invalid> |
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| Date | 2026-07-31 11:04 +0000 |
| Message-ID | <nd3dp8Fi7fgU1@mid.individual.net> |
| In reply to | #135281 |
dxf <dxforth@gmail.com> wrote: > On 30/07/2026 7:50 am, Johann Klasek - swap last two domainparts wrote: >> Hi folks, >> >> sometimes ago (2012) I did some re-work on a 65C02 assembler derived >> from the well known Ragsdale Assembler published in c't magazin, >> 1984/01, p. 72, "65C02 Assembler in FORTH". [..] > > Interesting. While I left the 6502 behind long ago, I also had need to upgrade > Cassady's 8080 assembler to Z80 and again to eZ80. I deliberately retained > Intel's mnemonics (with TDL extensions) knowing Zilog's would be an expensive > PITA for no demonstrable gain. Indeed Zilog themselves would have preferred to > use Intel's but fearing legal action, hired a third party to devise a new set: > > https://www.retrotechnology.com/restore/TDLmonitor.html Thank you, I wasn't aware of the TDL extensions at all. It's very interesting to have gotten an overview of the whole thing after just a quick glance. JEEk
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