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EuroForth Videos

Started byBernd Paysan <bernd.paysan@gmx.de>
First post2013-11-02 01:16 +0100
Last post2013-11-09 01:04 -0800
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  EuroForth Videos Bernd Paysan <bernd.paysan@gmx.de> - 2013-11-02 01:16 +0100
    Re: EuroForth Videos Pablo Hugo Reda <pabloreda@gmail.com> - 2013-11-01 19:29 -0700
      Re: EuroForth Videos Bernd Paysan <bernd.paysan@gmx.de> - 2013-11-02 14:18 +0100
        Re: EuroForth Videos Pablo Hugo Reda <pabloreda@gmail.com> - 2013-11-02 06:36 -0700
    Re: EuroForth Videos Chris <xrissmith@me.com> - 2013-11-01 19:56 -0700
    Re: EuroForth Videos Roelf Toxopeus <rt4all@notthis.hetnet.nl> - 2013-11-02 11:08 +0100
    Re: EuroForth Videos Mark Wills <markrobertwills@yahoo.co.uk> - 2013-11-02 03:53 -0700
      Re: EuroForth Videos Bernd Paysan <bernd.paysan@gmx.de> - 2013-11-02 14:04 +0100
        Re: EuroForth Videos Roelf Toxopeus <rt4all@notthis.hetnet.nl> - 2013-11-02 16:13 +0100
          Re: EuroForth Videos Bernd Paysan <bernd.paysan@gmx.de> - 2013-11-02 20:18 +0100
            Re: EuroForth Videos Roelf Toxopeus <rt4all@notthis.hetnet.nl> - 2013-11-02 23:23 +0100
    Re: EuroForth Videos Howerd <howerdo@yahoo.co.uk> - 2013-11-09 01:04 -0800

#26780 — EuroForth Videos

FromBernd Paysan <bernd.paysan@gmx.de>
Date2013-11-02 01:16 +0100
SubjectEuroForth Videos
Message-ID<l51g87$1cj$1@online.de>
I've finally completed compressing and uploading the rest of the talk videos 
(now including impromptu talks):

http://www.forth-ev.de/wiki/doku.php/en:events:euroforth-2013

Videos are in h.264 720p30 with a rate of 1Mbit/s and 128kbit AAC sound. 
Modern browsers now can handle this with one or the other fiddling to work 
around the broken patent system ;-).

-- 
Bernd Paysan
"If you want it done right, you have to do it yourself"
http://bernd-paysan.de/

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#26782

FromPablo Hugo Reda <pabloreda@gmail.com>
Date2013-11-01 19:29 -0700
Message-ID<088b02be-dd18-46e6-8ebf-37089b803901@googlegroups.com>
In reply to#26780
El viernes, 1 de noviembre de 2013 21:16:06 UTC-3, Bernd Paysan  escribió:
> I've finally completed compressing and uploading the rest of the talk videos 
> 
> (now including impromptu talks):
> 
> 
> 
> http://www.forth-ev.de/wiki/doku.php/en:events:euroforth-2013
> 
> 
> 
> Videos are in h.264 720p30 with a rate of 1Mbit/s and 128kbit AAC sound. 
> 
> Modern browsers now can handle this with one or the other fiddling to work 
> 
> around the broken patent system ;-).
> 
> 
> 
> -- 
> 
> Bernd Paysan
> 
> "If you want it done right, you have to do it yourself"
> 
> http://bernd-paysan.de/

I get

Error 400

We're sorry, but we could not fulfill your request for /wiki/doku.php/en:events:euroforth-2013 on this server.

An invalid request was received. This may be caused by a malfunctioning proxy server or browser privacy software. If you are using a proxy server, bypass the proxy server or contact your proxy server administrator.

Your technical support key is: ba94-970a-a52f-0448

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#26789

FromBernd Paysan <bernd.paysan@gmx.de>
Date2013-11-02 14:18 +0100
Message-ID<l52u3l$usk$1@online.de>
In reply to#26782
Pablo Hugo Reda wrote:
> I get
> 
> Error 400
> 
> We're sorry, but we could not fulfill your request for
> /wiki/doku.php/en:events:euroforth-2013 on this server.
> 
> An invalid request was received. This may be caused by a malfunctioning
> proxy server or browser privacy software. If you are using a proxy server,
> bypass the proxy server or contact your proxy server administrator.
> 
> Your technical support key is: ba94-970a-a52f-0448

Strange - I checked the log file, and got 3 consecutive 400 errors on this 
page, but everybody else seems to get a 200.  Do you prevent cookies or 
something like that?  Do you have a provider side proxy?  Try https then.

-- 
Bernd Paysan
"If you want it done right, you have to do it yourself"
http://bernd-paysan.de/

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#26790

FromPablo Hugo Reda <pabloreda@gmail.com>
Date2013-11-02 06:36 -0700
Message-ID<68edddd6-9594-418c-9eca-ac7eecc2c102@googlegroups.com>
In reply to#26789
El sábado, 2 de noviembre de 2013 10:18:41 UTC-3, Bernd Paysan  escribió:
> Pablo Hugo Reda wrote:
> 
> > I get
> 
> > 
> 
> > Error 400
> 
> > 
> 
> > We're sorry, but we could not fulfill your request for
> 
> > /wiki/doku.php/en:events:euroforth-2013 on this server.
> 
> > 
> 
> > An invalid request was received. This may be caused by a malfunctioning
> 
> > proxy server or browser privacy software. If you are using a proxy server,
> 
> > bypass the proxy server or contact your proxy server administrator.
> 
> > 
> 
> > Your technical support key is: ba94-970a-a52f-0448
> 
> 
> 
> Strange - I checked the log file, and got 3 consecutive 400 errors on this 
> 
> page, but everybody else seems to get a 200.  Do you prevent cookies or 
> 
> something like that?  Do you have a provider side proxy?  Try https then.
> 
> 
> 
> -- 
> 
> Bernd Paysan
> 
> "If you want it done right, you have to do it yourself"
> 
> http://bernd-paysan.de/

thanks https works!!

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#26783

FromChris <xrissmith@me.com>
Date2013-11-01 19:56 -0700
Message-ID<4bd1f907-cd52-4681-ab22-d8466c240685@googlegroups.com>
In reply to#26780

Worked for me.
I tried:
12:15 Sergey Baranov “Forth in Russia”

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#26786

FromRoelf Toxopeus <rt4all@notthis.hetnet.nl>
Date2013-11-02 11:08 +0100
Message-ID<5274cf23$0$8075$703f8584@textnews.kpn.nl>
In reply to#26780
On 02/11/2013 01:16, Bernd Paysan wrote:
> I've finally completed compressing and uploading the rest of the talk videos
> (now including impromptu talks):
>
> http://www.forth-ev.de/wiki/doku.php/en:events:euroforth-2013
>
> Videos are in h.264 720p30 with a rate of 1Mbit/s and 128kbit AAC sound.
> Modern browsers now can handle this with one or the other fiddling to work
> around the broken patent system ;-).
>

Fiddling? What fiddling ;-)

(No problem here with out of the box Safari in Mavericks.)

Nice to see faces.

Thanks!

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#26787

FromMark Wills <markrobertwills@yahoo.co.uk>
Date2013-11-02 03:53 -0700
Message-ID<e29c0f1f-d283-4794-88aa-c4b4cfb4cd6e@googlegroups.com>
In reply to#26780
Thank you Bernd for uploading these videos.

Would anyone object if I uploaded these videos to YouTube? I already have quite a number of Forth related videos on my channel on YouTube. It's a great way to promote Forth and get Forth "out there".

Appropriate attribution and descriptions will of course be given.

I've already Bernd's net2o presentation which was excellent, and Anton's region based memory allocation presentation. Both highly recommended, and it's nice to be able to put faces to names.

Regards

Mark

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#26788

FromBernd Paysan <bernd.paysan@gmx.de>
Date2013-11-02 14:04 +0100
Message-ID<l52t95$ti6$1@online.de>
In reply to#26787
Mark Wills wrote:

> Thank you Bernd for uploading these videos.
> 
> Would anyone object if I uploaded these videos to YouTube? I already have
> quite a number of Forth related videos on my channel on YouTube. It's a
> great way to promote Forth and get Forth "out there".

As I was only the cameraman, I have no copyright except of course in my own 
presentation; but as any presenter could have objected to be filmed, I take 
the fact that I could record a presentation as permission for publication.  
And that includes making copies elsewhere.  I want to have the videos on 
forth-ev.de, because there no silly "GEMA" censorship will happen (which 
matters in Germany ;-).

These videos are there to promote Forth, EuroForth and what the individuals 
do to a larger circle than the participants.

> Appropriate attribution and descriptions will of course be given.

I'd expect so.

> I've already Bernd's net2o presentation which was excellent, and Anton's
> region based memory allocation presentation. Both highly recommended, and
> it's nice to be able to put faces to names.

Thanks.

-- 
Bernd Paysan
"If you want it done right, you have to do it yourself"
http://bernd-paysan.de/

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#26791

FromRoelf Toxopeus <rt4all@notthis.hetnet.nl>
Date2013-11-02 16:13 +0100
Message-ID<5275169a$0$6872$703f8584@textnews.kpn.nl>
In reply to#26788
On 02/11/2013 14:04, Bernd Paysan wrote:
> Mark Wills wrote:
>
>> Thank you Bernd for uploading these videos.
>>
>> Would anyone object if I uploaded these videos to YouTube? I already have
>> quite a number of Forth related videos on my channel on YouTube. It's a
>> great way to promote Forth and get Forth "out there".
>
> As I was only the cameraman, I have no copyright except of course in my own
> presentation; but as any presenter could have objected to be filmed, I take
> the fact that I could record a presentation as permission for publication.
> And that includes making copies elsewhere.

How odd. Without telling them what it is for?
Wow...
Than it's worse than I thought.

I would show the courtesy to contact the presenters myself before 
copying this stuff. But that's just how we do it in my world.

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#26792

FromBernd Paysan <bernd.paysan@gmx.de>
Date2013-11-02 20:18 +0100
Message-ID<l53j6j$ulr$1@online.de>
In reply to#26791
Roelf Toxopeus wrote:

> On 02/11/2013 14:04, Bernd Paysan wrote:
>> Mark Wills wrote:
>>
>>> Thank you Bernd for uploading these videos.
>>>
>>> Would anyone object if I uploaded these videos to YouTube? I already
>>> have quite a number of Forth related videos on my channel on YouTube.
>>> It's a great way to promote Forth and get Forth "out there".
>>
>> As I was only the cameraman, I have no copyright except of course in my
>> own presentation; but as any presenter could have objected to be filmed,
>> I take the fact that I could record a presentation as permission for
>> publication. And that includes making copies elsewhere.
> 
> How odd. Without telling them what it is for?

No, there is a very obvious camera in the center of the stage, and I said at 
the beginning of the conference that I will put the stuff online.

> Wow...
> Than it's worse than I thought.

German law also bases on "implied action".  That means you don't need all 
those legal documents as long as your implied actions are consistent.  This 
is a conference, and all participants know that the conference proceedings 
will be published.  People who hold talks do want to publish them.  This 
year we did video-tape for the first time, but it was very obvious for all 
participants that this was for publishing, too.

I see this videos as service for both the public and the presenters: If you 
did a presentation, watch your video, and figure out what and where to 
improve.

> I would show the courtesy to contact the presenters myself before
> copying this stuff. But that's just how we do it in my world.

That sounds like a world where you can achieve nothing.

-- 
Bernd Paysan
"If you want it done right, you have to do it yourself"
http://bernd-paysan.de/

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#26793

FromRoelf Toxopeus <rt4all@notthis.hetnet.nl>
Date2013-11-02 23:23 +0100
Message-ID<52757b5a$0$8083$703f8584@textnews.kpn.nl>
In reply to#26792
On 02/11/2013 20:18, Bernd Paysan wrote:
> Roelf Toxopeus wrote:
>
>> On 02/11/2013 14:04, Bernd Paysan wrote:
>>> Mark Wills wrote:
>>>
>>>> Thank you Bernd for uploading these videos.
>>>>
>>>> Would anyone object if I uploaded these videos to YouTube? I already
>>>> have quite a number of Forth related videos on my channel on YouTube.
>>>> It's a great way to promote Forth and get Forth "out there".
>>>
>>> As I was only the cameraman, I have no copyright except of course in my
>>> own presentation; but as any presenter could have objected to be filmed,
>>> I take the fact that I could record a presentation as permission for
>>> publication. And that includes making copies elsewhere.
>>
>> How odd. Without telling them what it is for?
>
> No, there is a very obvious camera in the center of the stage, and I said at
> the beginning of the conference that I will put the stuff online.

Ok, so they knew (at least they thought they did).

>
>> Wow...
>> Than it's worse than I thought.
>
> German law also bases on "implied action".  That means you don't need all
> those legal documents as long as your implied actions are consistent.  This
> is a conference, and all participants know that the conference proceedings
> will be published.  People who hold talks do want to publish them.  This
> year we did video-tape for the first time, but it was very obvious for all
> participants that this was for publishing, too.

It's something different all together to be put on YouTube, without 
having a say in it!

>
> I see this videos as service for both the public and the presenters: If you
> did a presentation, watch your video, and figure out what and where to
> improve.

Yeah, and see you don't like it and don't want it published after all.


>
>> I would show the courtesy to contact the presenters myself before
>> copying this stuff. But that's just how we do it in my world.
>
> That sounds like a world where you can achieve nothing.

How did you knew?


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#26819

FromHowerd <howerdo@yahoo.co.uk>
Date2013-11-09 01:04 -0800
Message-ID<7925481a-0bf8-4295-a32a-44b3d254572d@googlegroups.com>
In reply to#26780
Hi Bernd,

Thanks for posting the videos :-) 
I watched Anton's and Nick's here on holiday in Spain - great stuff!
I will take a look at the rest ASAP...

And thanks to all the presenters who knowingly or by default allowed their work to be published ;-)

Best regards,
Howerd


On Saturday, November 2, 2013 12:16:06 AM UTC, Bernd Paysan wrote:
> I've finally completed compressing and uploading the rest of the talk videos 
> 
> (now including impromptu talks):
> 
> 
> 
> http://www.forth-ev.de/wiki/doku.php/en:events:euroforth-2013
> 
> 
> 
> Videos are in h.264 720p30 with a rate of 1Mbit/s and 128kbit AAC sound. 
> 
> Modern browsers now can handle this with one or the other fiddling to work 
> 
> around the broken patent system ;-).
> 
> 
> 
> -- 
> 
> Bernd Paysan
> 
> "If you want it done right, you have to do it yourself"
> 
> http://bernd-paysan.de/

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