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Re: local variable

From "Alex McDonald" <blog@rivadpm.com>
Newsgroups comp.lang.forth
Subject Re: local variable
Date 2015-07-10 17:48 +0100
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on 10/07/2015 16:57:56, Raimond Dragomir wrote:
> 
>> What is a static language or a dynamic language? They are terms I'm
>> unfamiliar with, unless you mean static vs dynamic typing, which is not
>> what we're taking about here. The discussion is about quotations in
>> relation to name scope and closure-like behaviour.
>>
> A dynamic language is a language that needs a garbage collector.

C++ has closures but no GC
http://www.cprogramming.com/c++11/c++11-lambda-closures.html, and the
same is true of Rust http://doc.rust-lang.org/book/README.html.

> 
>> >
>> > The fact is that Gforth doesn't have what I and Hugh have, quotations
>> > which can "see" locals of an outer level. Probably Hugh is proud of
>> > that and calls his quotations "real". "Real" or "not real" but
>> > definetely better.
>>
>> Why better? Do you have a use case you can show? I also support this
>> feature, but I haven't found a use for it.
> 
> It's about high order words (like "map", "filter", "apply", etc. see
> Oforth, see Factor) in strong relation with data structures.

I get that, but I was wondering what the benefit of using outer locals in
quotations might be.

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local variable grobibi <tristanhennequin@free.fr> - 2015-03-15 00:43 +0100
  Re: local variable "Elizabeth D. Rather" <erather@forth.com> - 2015-03-14 15:01 -1000
    Re: local variable grobibi <tristanhennequin@free.fr> - 2015-03-15 02:50 +0100
      Re: local variable Gerard Sontag <gerardsontag@gmail.com> - 2015-07-11 09:49 -0700
        Re: local variable Coos Haak <chforth@hccnet.nl> - 2015-07-11 22:50 +0200
          Re: local variable Gerard Sontag <gerardsontag@gmail.com> - 2015-07-12 01:03 -0700
            Re: local variable Coos Haak <chforth@hccnet.nl> - 2015-07-12 17:18 +0200
    Re: local variable albert@spenarnc.xs4all.nl (Albert van der Horst) - 2015-03-15 03:02 +0000
  Re: local variable Bernd Paysan <bernd.paysan@gmx.de> - 2015-03-15 02:53 +0100
    Re: local variable "WJ" <w_a_x_man@yahoo.com> - 2015-03-17 22:29 +0000
      Re: local variable "WJ" <w_a_x_man@yahoo.com> - 2016-02-08 14:45 +0000
  Re: local variable hughaguilar96@gmail.com - 2015-03-14 20:45 -0700
    Re: local variable stephen@mpeforth.com (Stephen Pelc) - 2015-03-15 10:53 +0000
      Re: local variable Bernd Paysan <bernd.paysan@gmx.de> - 2015-03-15 22:54 +0100
      Re: local variable hughaguilar96@gmail.com - 2015-03-15 19:45 -0700
        Re: local variable hughaguilar96@gmail.com - 2015-03-15 20:15 -0700
          Re: local variable grobibi <tristanhennequin@free.fr> - 2015-03-16 08:42 +0100
        Re: local variable stephen@mpeforth.com (Stephen Pelc) - 2015-03-16 07:51 +0000
          Re: local variable hughaguilar96@gmail.com - 2015-03-16 09:59 -0700
            Re: local variable "Alex McDonald" <blog@rivadpm.com> - 2015-03-16 20:31 +0000
            Re: local variable "WJ" <w_a_x_man@yahoo.com> - 2015-03-18 08:59 +0000
      Re: local variable "HAA" <someone@microsoft.com> - 2015-03-17 13:47 +1100
        Re: local variable stephen@mpeforth.com (Stephen Pelc) - 2015-03-17 10:59 +0000
          Re: local variable Bernd Paysan <bernd.paysan@gmx.de> - 2015-03-17 18:55 +0100
            Re: local variable stephen@mpeforth.com (Stephen Pelc) - 2015-03-17 18:43 +0000
          Re: local variable "HAA" <someone@microsoft.com> - 2015-03-18 13:25 +1100
            Re: local variable "Elizabeth D. Rather" <erather@forth.com> - 2015-03-17 16:43 -1000
              Re: local variable Bernd Paysan <bernd.paysan@gmx.de> - 2015-03-18 04:09 +0100
                Re: local variable "Elizabeth D. Rather" <erather@forth.com> - 2015-03-17 17:55 -1000
                Re: local variable "HAA" <someone@microsoft.com> - 2015-03-20 22:28 +1100
                Re: local variable Bernd Paysan <bernd.paysan@gmx.de> - 2015-03-20 15:43 +0100
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            Re: local variable "WJ" <w_a_x_man@yahoo.com> - 2015-03-18 08:48 +0000
              Re: local variable "WJ" <w_a_x_man@yahoo.com> - 2015-09-16 18:55 +0000
                Re: local variable hughaguilar96@gmail.com - 2015-09-16 22:03 -0700
        Re: local variable anton@mips.complang.tuwien.ac.at (Anton Ertl) - 2015-03-17 14:18 +0000
          Re: local variable albert@spenarnc.xs4all.nl (Albert van der Horst) - 2015-03-17 16:24 +0000
            Re: local variable "Alex McDonald" <blog@rivadpm.com> - 2015-03-17 16:34 +0000
            Re: local variable anton@mips.complang.tuwien.ac.at (Anton Ertl) - 2015-03-18 14:32 +0000
          Re: local variable Bernd Paysan <bernd.paysan@gmx.de> - 2015-03-17 20:08 +0100
            Re: local variable anton@mips.complang.tuwien.ac.at (Anton Ertl) - 2015-03-18 15:21 +0000
  Re: local variable anton@mips.complang.tuwien.ac.at (Anton Ertl) - 2015-03-16 15:36 +0000
    Re: local variable hughaguilar96@gmail.com - 2015-03-16 10:09 -0700
      Re: local variable "Alex McDonald" <blog@rivadpm.com> - 2015-03-16 20:24 +0000
        Re: local variable "Rod Pemberton" <buzz@notnotnontnooatno.cmm> - 2015-03-16 19:00 -0400
          Re: local variable "Alex McDonald" <blog@rivadpm.com> - 2015-03-17 12:06 +0000
            Re: local variable stephen@mpeforth.com (Stephen Pelc) - 2015-03-17 14:37 +0000
            Re: local variable Bernd Paysan <bernd.paysan@gmx.de> - 2015-03-17 18:58 +0100
          Re: local variable Doug Hoffman <glidedog@gmail.com> - 2015-03-17 08:55 -0400
          Re: local variable anton@mips.complang.tuwien.ac.at (Anton Ertl) - 2015-03-17 14:15 +0000
      Re: local variable anton@mips.complang.tuwien.ac.at (Anton Ertl) - 2015-03-17 16:54 +0000
        Re: local variable "Alex McDonald" <blog@rivadpm.com> - 2015-03-17 17:45 +0000
          Re: local variable Bernd Paysan <bernd.paysan@gmx.de> - 2015-03-17 20:14 +0100
          Re: local variable anton@mips.complang.tuwien.ac.at (Anton Ertl) - 2015-03-20 15:06 +0000
            Re: local variable hughaguilar96@gmail.com - 2015-03-20 16:14 -0700
              Re: local variable "Alex McDonald" <blog@rivadpm.com> - 2015-03-21 09:47 +0000
            Re: local variable hughaguilar96@gmail.com - 2015-07-04 19:52 -0700
              Re: local variable "Alex McDonald" <blog@rivadpm.com> - 2015-07-05 07:24 +0100
                Re: local variable Raimond Dragomir <raimond.dragomir@gmail.com> - 2015-07-05 02:04 -0700
                Re: local variable "Alex McDonald" <blog@rivadpm.com> - 2015-07-05 10:36 +0100
                Re: local variable Raimond Dragomir <raimond.dragomir@gmail.com> - 2015-07-05 03:25 -0700
                Re: local variable Bernd Paysan <bernd.paysan@gmx.de> - 2015-07-05 15:28 +0200
                Re: local variable Raimond Dragomir <raimond.dragomir@gmail.com> - 2015-07-05 08:11 -0700
                Re: local variable Raimond Dragomir <raimond.dragomir@gmail.com> - 2015-07-05 08:21 -0700
                Re: local variable Bernd Paysan <bernd.paysan@gmx.de> - 2015-07-05 23:53 +0200
                Re: local variable Raimond Dragomir <raimond.dragomir@gmail.com> - 2015-07-05 20:31 -0700
                Re: local variable hughaguilar96@gmail.com - 2015-07-05 19:56 -0700
                Re: local variable hughaguilar96@gmail.com - 2015-07-05 19:57 -0700
                Re: local variable "Alex McDonald" <blog@rivadpm.com> - 2015-07-06 08:09 +0100
                Re: local variable hughaguilar96@gmail.com - 2015-07-06 19:59 -0700
                Re: local variable "Alex McDonald" <blog@rivadpm.com> - 2015-07-07 08:30 +0100
                Re: local variable Michael Barry <barrym95838@yahoo.com> - 2015-07-10 00:35 -0700
                Re: local variable Raimond Dragomir <raimond.dragomir@gmail.com> - 2015-07-10 01:41 -0700
                Re: local variable "Alex McDonald" <blog@rivadpm.com> - 2015-07-10 13:55 +0100
                Re: local variable Raimond Dragomir <raimond.dragomir@gmail.com> - 2015-07-10 07:13 -0700
                Re: local variable "Alex McDonald" <blog@rivadpm.com> - 2015-07-10 16:29 +0100
                Re: local variable Raimond Dragomir <raimond.dragomir@gmail.com> - 2015-07-10 08:57 -0700
                Re: local variable "Alex McDonald" <blog@rivadpm.com> - 2015-07-10 17:48 +0100
                Re: local variable Paul Rubin <no.email@nospam.invalid> - 2015-07-10 10:02 -0700
                Re: local variable "WJ" <w_a_x_man@yahoo.com> - 2015-09-16 17:30 +0000
                Re: local variable Mark Wills <markwills1970@gmail.com> - 2015-07-10 10:28 -0700
                Re: local variable "Elizabeth D. Rather" <erather@forth.com> - 2015-07-10 08:00 -1000
                Re: local variable hughaguilar96@gmail.com - 2015-07-10 21:31 -0700
                Re: local variable "Alex McDonald" <blog@rivadpm.com> - 2015-07-10 19:13 +0100
                Re: local variable "Elizabeth D. Rather" <erather@forth.com> - 2015-07-10 09:06 -1000
                Re: local variable anton@mips.complang.tuwien.ac.at (Anton Ertl) - 2015-07-11 14:10 +0000
                Re: local variable humptydumpty <ouatubi@gmail.com> - 2015-07-11 10:14 -0700
                Re: local variable anton@mips.complang.tuwien.ac.at (Anton Ertl) - 2015-07-12 15:56 +0000
                Re: local variable humptydumpty <ouatubi@gmail.com> - 2015-07-12 11:48 -0700
                Re: local variable Raimond Dragomir <raimond.dragomir@gmail.com> - 2015-07-10 21:21 -0700
                Re: local variable hughaguilar96@gmail.com - 2015-07-10 21:56 -0700
                Re: local variable "Alex McDonald" <blog@rivadpm.com> - 2015-07-11 23:51 +0100
                Re: local variable anton@mips.complang.tuwien.ac.at (Anton Ertl) - 2015-07-11 13:42 +0000
                Re: local variable franck.bensusan@gmail.com - 2015-07-12 02:17 -0700
                Re: local variable anton@mips.complang.tuwien.ac.at (Anton Ertl) - 2015-07-12 15:12 +0000
                Re: local variable franck.bensusan@gmail.com - 2015-07-13 02:37 -0700
                Re: local variable anton@mips.complang.tuwien.ac.at (Anton Ertl) - 2015-07-13 16:13 +0000
                Re: local variable franck.bensusan@gmail.com - 2015-07-13 14:48 -0700
                Re: local variable anton@mips.complang.tuwien.ac.at (Anton Ertl) - 2015-07-14 06:41 +0000
                Re: local variable franck.bensusan@gmail.com - 2015-07-14 01:44 -0700
                Re: local variable Bernd Linsel <bl1@gmx.com> - 2015-07-11 11:03 +0200
                Re: local variable Bernd Linsel <bl1@gmx.com> - 2015-07-11 11:11 +0200
                Re: local variable hughaguilar96@gmail.com - 2015-07-12 16:43 -0700
                Re: local variable anton@mips.complang.tuwien.ac.at (Anton Ertl) - 2015-07-11 15:14 +0000
                Re: local variable Julian Fondren <julian.fondren@gmail.com> - 2015-07-11 17:57 -0700
                Re: local variable anton@mips.complang.tuwien.ac.at (Anton Ertl) - 2015-07-12 15:32 +0000
                Re: local variable "Alex McDonald" <blog@rivadpm.com> - 2015-07-10 13:13 +0100
                Re: local variable hughaguilar96@gmail.com - 2015-07-10 21:48 -0700
                Re: local variable franck.bensusan@gmail.com - 2015-07-05 03:47 -0700
                Re: local variable Raimond Dragomir <raimond.dragomir@gmail.com> - 2015-07-05 04:15 -0700
                Re: local variable Raimond Dragomir <raimond.dragomir@gmail.com> - 2015-07-05 04:27 -0700
                Re: local variable Raimond Dragomir <raimond.dragomir@gmail.com> - 2015-07-05 04:39 -0700
                Re: local variable franck.bensusan@gmail.com - 2015-07-05 07:08 -0700
  Re: local variable "WJ" <w_a_x_man@yahoo.com> - 2015-03-18 05:04 +0000
    Re: local variable "WJ" <w_a_x_man@yahoo.com> - 2016-02-08 16:09 +0000
  Ignore the standard Stefan Mauerhofer <smauerhofer@androsoft.ch> - 2015-03-18 04:09 -0700
    Re: Ignore the standard Doug Hoffman <glidedog@gmail.com> - 2015-03-18 07:26 -0400
      Re: Ignore the standard "WJ" <w_a_x_man@yahoo.com> - 2015-03-20 17:31 +0000
        Re: Ignore the standard Doug Hoffman <glidedog@gmail.com> - 2015-03-20 17:41 -0400
          Re: Ignore the standard "Elizabeth D. Rather" <erather@forth.com> - 2015-03-20 14:26 -1000
            Re: Ignore the standard Doug Hoffman <glidedog@gmail.com> - 2015-03-21 06:00 -0400
              Re: Ignore the standard hughaguilar96@gmail.com - 2015-03-21 15:11 -0700
          Re: Ignore the standard Bernd Paysan <bernd.paysan@gmx.de> - 2015-03-21 02:49 +0100
            Re: Ignore the standard Doug Hoffman <glidedog@gmail.com> - 2015-03-21 06:04 -0400
    Re: Ignore the standard "Alex McDonald" <blog@rivadpm.com> - 2015-03-18 16:05 +0000
    Re: Ignore the standard "WJ" <w_a_x_man@yahoo.com> - 2015-03-20 17:13 +0000
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