Re: ColorForth - another dead end?

From	Hannu Vuolasaho <vuokkosetae@gmail.com>
Newsgroups	comp.lang.forth
Subject	Re: ColorForth - another dead end?
Date	2015-05-25 10:06 +0300
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On 25.05.2015 03:50, Elizabeth D. Rather wrote:

>
> Unfortunately, Starting Forth presents a very simplified view of the
> state of Forth 30 years ago, which even more unrepresentative of Forth
> today than K&R is of the current state of C programming (K&R was at
> least aimed at professional programmers). If you are interested in Forth
> I highly recommend some more recent and more technical books on the
> language, of which there are several. My book, the Forth Programmer's
> Handbook, is available from Amazon as well as a free pdf included with
> the evaluation version of FORTH, Inc.'s SwiftForth (windows, Linux, OSX)
> and SwiftX (interactive cross-compiler for popular microcontrollers) in
> addition to extensive documentation of these respective implementations.
> Both SwiftForth and SwiftX have been used in major software projects:
> SwiftX, for example, runs communication multiplexors that manage much of
> the electric power grid in North America.
>

I liked Brodie's Starting and Thinking Forth books. A while ago I read 
it through and compared its ideas to jonesforth. They work nicely 
together. Thinking Forth gave some thoughts to consider while using 
other languages as well. I also found your Forth programmers handbook 
very useful.

However, even I don't find myself total newbie any more, I end up asking 
quite a lot of questions which newbie would ask. And when I find answer, 
it is always the simplest one which I didn't even consider.

I would like to propose that on some course you record all sessions and 
write a book where you solve those questions your students asked. And if 
course subject can be set some direction, have Arduino or some other 
common MCU development environment and write something more complicated 
than normal led blinker and control software on PC for it.

And for Hugh there should be structs, linked list and maybe some tree 
build in a forth way.

But I have impression, you don't teach nor write that much any more.

Best regards,
Hannu Vuolasaho

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ColorForth - another dead end? borota@gmail.com - 2015-05-24 12:22 -0700
  Re: ColorForth - another dead end? hughaguilar96@gmail.com - 2015-05-24 14:00 -0700
    Re: ColorForth - another dead end? borota@gmail.com - 2015-05-24 16:18 -0700
      Re: ColorForth - another dead end? hughaguilar96@gmail.com - 2015-05-24 16:45 -0700
      Re: ColorForth - another dead end? "Elizabeth D. Rather" <erather@forth.com> - 2015-05-24 14:50 -1000
        Re: ColorForth - another dead end? hughaguilar96@gmail.com - 2015-05-24 18:12 -0700
          Re: ColorForth - another dead end? onewhohopes@gmail.com - 2015-05-28 13:00 -0700
            Re: ColorForth - another dead end? hughaguilar96@gmail.com - 2015-05-28 18:55 -0700
            Re: ColorForth - another dead end? Howerd <howerdo@yahoo.co.uk> - 2015-05-29 00:49 -0700
              Re: ColorForth - another dead end? Raimond Dragomir <raimond.dragomir@gmail.com> - 2015-05-29 07:56 -0700
                Re: ColorForth - another dead end? anton@mips.complang.tuwien.ac.at (Anton Ertl) - 2015-05-29 15:04 +0000
                Re: ColorForth - another dead end? Raimond Dragomir <raimond.dragomir@gmail.com> - 2015-05-29 10:03 -0700
                Re: ColorForth - another dead end? Raimond Dragomir <raimond.dragomir@gmail.com> - 2015-05-29 10:15 -0700
                Re: ColorForth - another dead end? hughaguilar96@gmail.com - 2015-05-29 19:28 -0700
                Re: ColorForth - another dead end? anton@mips.complang.tuwien.ac.at (Anton Ertl) - 2015-05-30 12:34 +0000
                Re: ColorForth - another dead end? hughaguilar96@gmail.com - 2015-05-29 19:19 -0700
                Re: ColorForth - another dead end? Raimond Dragomir <raimond.dragomir@gmail.com> - 2015-05-29 22:30 -0700
                Re: ColorForth - another dead end? "Rod Pemberton" <fork@lllljunkqwer.cpm> - 2015-05-30 00:14 -0400
                Re: ColorForth - another dead end? Raimond Dragomir <raimond.dragomir@gmail.com> - 2015-05-29 22:22 -0700
                Re: ColorForth - another dead end? "Alex McDonald" <blog@rivadpm.com> - 2015-05-30 09:27 +0100
                Re: ColorForth - another dead end? Raimond Dragomir <raimond.dragomir@gmail.com> - 2015-05-30 02:05 -0700
                Re: ColorForth - another dead end? "Alex McDonald" <blog@rivadpm.com> - 2015-05-30 10:21 +0100
                Re: ColorForth - another dead end? Raimond Dragomir <raimond.dragomir@gmail.com> - 2015-05-30 04:08 -0700
                Re: ColorForth - another dead end? hughaguilar96@gmail.com - 2015-05-30 07:43 -0700
                Re: ColorForth - another dead end? Raimond Dragomir <raimond.dragomir@gmail.com> - 2015-05-30 09:42 -0700
                Re: ColorForth - another dead end? hughaguilar96@gmail.com - 2015-05-30 10:25 -0700
                Re: ColorForth - another dead end? Raimond Dragomir <raimond.dragomir@gmail.com> - 2015-05-30 22:36 -0700
                Re: ColorForth - another dead end? hughaguilar96@gmail.com - 2015-05-31 16:38 -0700
                Re: ColorForth - another dead end? "Alex McDonald" <blog@rivadpm.com> - 2015-05-31 09:11 +0100
                Re: ColorForth - another dead end? humptydumpty <ouatubi@gmail.com> - 2015-05-31 11:31 -0700
                Re: ColorForth - another dead end? anton@mips.complang.tuwien.ac.at (Anton Ertl) - 2015-06-01 13:21 +0000
                Re: ColorForth - another dead end? humptydumpty <ouatubi@gmail.com> - 2015-06-01 08:18 -0700
                Re: ColorForth - another dead end? humptydumpty <ouatubi@gmail.com> - 2015-06-01 09:07 -0700
                Re: ColorForth - another dead end? humptydumpty <ouatubi@gmail.com> - 2015-06-01 23:31 -0700
                Field name overloading (was: ColorForth - another dead end?) anton@mips.complang.tuwien.ac.at (Anton Ertl) - 2015-06-02 09:47 +0000
                Re: Field name overloading (was: ColorForth - another dead end?) humptydumpty <ouatubi@gmail.com> - 2015-06-02 13:07 -0700
                Re: ColorForth - another dead end? humptydumpty <ouatubi@gmail.com> - 2015-06-01 08:20 -0700
                Re: ColorForth - another dead end? "Rod Pemberton" <fork@lllljunkqwer.cpm> - 2015-05-30 15:34 -0400
                Re: ColorForth - another dead end? hughaguilar96@gmail.com - 2015-05-29 22:55 -0700
                Re: ColorForth - another dead end? Raimond Dragomir <raimond.dragomir@gmail.com> - 2015-05-30 00:54 -0700
              Re: ColorForth - another dead end? stephen@mpeforth.com (Stephen Pelc) - 2015-05-30 17:20 +0000
                Re: ColorForth - another dead end? albert@spenarnc.xs4all.nl (Albert van der Horst) - 2015-05-31 15:17 +0000
        Re: ColorForth - another dead end? Hannu Vuolasaho <vuokkosetae@gmail.com> - 2015-05-25 10:06 +0300
        Re: ColorForth - another dead end? Jason Damisch <jasondamisch@yahoo.com> - 2015-05-25 11:11 -0700
          Re: ColorForth - another dead end? rickman <gnuarm@gmail.com> - 2015-05-25 14:22 -0400
            Re: ColorForth - another dead end? "Elizabeth D. Rather" <erather@forth.com> - 2015-05-25 14:57 -1000
              Re: ColorForth - another dead end? borota@gmail.com - 2015-05-25 20:42 -0700
              Re: ColorForth - another dead end? hughaguilar96@gmail.com - 2015-05-29 19:46 -0700
                Re: ColorForth - another dead end? "Rod Pemberton" <fork@lllljunkqwer.cpm> - 2015-05-30 00:03 -0400
  Re: ColorForth - another dead end? Howerd <howerdo@yahoo.co.uk> - 2015-05-24 21:51 -0700
    Re: ColorForth - another dead end? albert@spenarnc.xs4all.nl (Albert van der Horst) - 2015-05-25 11:17 +0000
  Re: ColorForth - another dead end? Mark Wills <markwills1970@gmail.com> - 2015-05-25 01:50 -0700
    Re: ColorForth - another dead end? Howerd <howerdo@yahoo.co.uk> - 2015-05-25 02:11 -0700
  Re: ColorForth - another dead end? anton@mips.complang.tuwien.ac.at (Anton Ertl) - 2015-05-25 14:11 +0000

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