Re: Importing from wordlists.

From	"Alex McDonald" <blog@rivadpm.com>
Newsgroups	comp.lang.forth
Subject	Re: Importing from wordlists.
Date	2015-04-01 18:45 +0100
Organization	A noiseless patient Spider
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on 01/04/2015 18:12:57,  wrote:
> Gerry Jackson <gerry@jackson9000.fsnet.co.uk> writes:
>>> : synonym
>>>    : bl word find
>>>      >r compile, postpone ;
>>>    r> 1+ if immediate then ;
>>>
>>> I think that should be pretty portable across ANS Forths. (I know, it
>>> uses the deprectated FIND.)
>>>
>>
>>That doesn't meet the specification of SYNONYM.
>>
>>15.6.2.2264 SYNONYM TOOLS EXT
>>( “<spaces>newname” “<spaces>oldname” – – )
>>For both strings skip leading space delimiters. Parse newname and
>>oldname delimited by a space. Create a definition for newname with
>>the semantics defined below. Newname may be the same as oldname;
>>when looking up oldname, newname shall not be found.
>>                          ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
>>e.g. on GForth
>>' DUP SYNONYM DUP DUP ' DUP . .' DUP SYNONYM DUP DUP ' DUP . .
>>redefined dup with DUP  2143110184 4268604  ok
> 
> There is no guarantee from SYNONYM that the xt of newname is the same
> as that of oldname.
> 
> The requirement you underline is satisfied by the definition above.
> However, the requirement to have both the same interpretation
> semantics and the same compilation semantics as oldname is not (in
> general), as you will see when you try to produce a SYNONYM of S" in
> Gforth with this definition of SYNONYM.  That's because FIND does not
> produce both (at least not in a single invocation of FIND).

Ah, well played. I'd forgotten about that.

> 
> - anton

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Importing from wordlists. albert@spenarnc.xs4all.nl (Albert van der Horst) - 2015-03-29 12:43 +0000
  Importing from wordlists. Mark Wills <markwills1970@gmail.com> - 2015-03-29 06:15 -0700
    Re: Importing from wordlists. albert@spenarnc.xs4all.nl (Albert van der Horst) - 2015-03-29 15:11 +0000
    Re: Importing from wordlists. hughaguilar96@gmail.com - 2015-03-29 09:14 -0700
      Re: Importing from wordlists. albert@spenarnc.xs4all.nl (Albert van der Horst) - 2015-03-29 19:52 +0000
        Re: Importing from wordlists. anton@mips.complang.tuwien.ac.at (Anton Ertl) - 2015-03-30 12:39 +0000
          Re: Importing from wordlists. Mark Wills <markwills1970@gmail.com> - 2015-03-30 09:09 -0700
            Re: Importing from wordlists. stephen@mpeforth.com (Stephen Pelc) - 2015-03-30 16:42 +0000
            Re: Importing from wordlists. hughaguilar96@gmail.com - 2015-03-30 17:55 -0700
              Re: Importing from wordlists. Mark Wills <markwills1970@gmail.com> - 2015-04-02 05:41 -0700
          Re: Importing from wordlists. "HAA" <someone@microsoft.com> - 2015-03-31 13:26 +1000
            Re: Importing from wordlists. hughaguilar96@gmail.com - 2015-03-30 19:54 -0700
              Re: Importing from wordlists. Mark Wills <markwills1970@gmail.com> - 2015-03-31 02:23 -0700
                Re: Importing from wordlists. Lars Brinkhoff <lars.spam@nocrew.org> - 2015-03-31 12:02 +0200
                Re: Importing from wordlists. Mark Wills <markwills1970@gmail.com> - 2015-03-31 07:41 -0700
                Re: Importing from wordlists. "Alex McDonald" <blog@rivadpm.com> - 2015-03-31 16:36 +0100
                Re: Importing from wordlists. albert@spenarnc.xs4all.nl (Albert van der Horst) - 2015-03-31 16:52 +0000
                Re: Importing from wordlists. "Alex McDonald" <blog@rivadpm.com> - 2015-03-31 18:33 +0100
                Re: Importing from wordlists. JennyB <jennybrien@googlemail.com> - 2015-03-31 15:25 -0700
                Re: Importing from wordlists. albert@spenarnc.xs4all.nl (Albert van der Horst) - 2015-04-01 00:59 +0000
                Re: Importing from wordlists. JennyB <jennybrien@googlemail.com> - 2015-04-01 08:05 -0700
                Re: Importing from wordlists. albert@spenarnc.xs4all.nl (Albert van der Horst) - 2015-04-01 15:25 +0000
                Re: Importing from wordlists. anton@mips.complang.tuwien.ac.at (Anton Ertl) - 2015-04-01 15:58 +0000
                Re: Importing from wordlists. "Alex McDonald" <blog@rivadpm.com> - 2015-04-01 15:57 +0100
                Re: Importing from wordlists. Gerry Jackson <gerry@jackson9000.fsnet.co.uk> - 2015-03-31 23:58 +0100
                Re: Importing from wordlists. Bernd Paysan <bernd.paysan@gmx.de> - 2015-04-01 02:00 +0200
                Re: Importing from wordlists. hughaguilar96@gmail.com - 2015-03-31 18:48 -0700
                Re: Importing from wordlists. Gerry Jackson <gerry@jackson9000.fsnet.co.uk> - 2015-04-01 08:03 +0100
                Re: Importing from wordlists. Bernd Paysan <bernd.paysan@gmx.de> - 2015-04-01 16:38 +0200
                Re: Importing from wordlists. "Alex McDonald" <blog@rivadpm.com> - 2015-04-01 15:54 +0100
                Re: Importing from wordlists. Bernd Paysan <bernd.paysan@gmx.de> - 2015-04-01 17:41 +0200
                Re: Importing from wordlists. Bernd Paysan <bernd.paysan@gmx.de> - 2015-04-01 18:24 +0200
                Re: Importing from wordlists. Bernd Paysan <bernd.paysan@gmx.de> - 2015-04-02 05:27 +0200
                Re: Importing from wordlists. Coos Haak <chforth@hccnet.nl> - 2015-04-02 12:38 +0200
                Re: Importing from wordlists. "Alex McDonald" <blog@rivadpm.com> - 2015-04-02 15:45 +0100
                Re: Importing from wordlists. "Alex McDonald" <blog@rivadpm.com> - 2015-04-02 17:25 +0100
                Re: Importing from wordlists. Bernd Paysan <bernd.paysan@gmx.de> - 2015-04-03 02:00 +0200
                Re: Importing from wordlists. Gerry Jackson <gerry@jackson9000.fsnet.co.uk> - 2015-04-03 20:49 +0100
                Re: Importing from wordlists. "Elizabeth D. Rather" <erather@forth.com> - 2015-04-03 11:08 -1000
                Re: Importing from wordlists. Paul Rubin <no.email@nospam.invalid> - 2015-04-03 14:14 -0700
                Re: Importing from wordlists. franck.bensusan@gmail.com - 2015-04-04 02:47 -0700
                Re: Importing from wordlists. anton@mips.complang.tuwien.ac.at (Anton Ertl) - 2015-04-03 21:37 +0000
                Re: Importing from wordlists. "Elizabeth D. Rather" <erather@forth.com> - 2015-04-03 14:05 -1000
                Re: Importing from wordlists. Bernd Paysan <bernd.paysan@gmx.de> - 2015-04-04 05:14 +0200
                Re: Importing from wordlists. anton@mips.complang.tuwien.ac.at (Anton Ertl) - 2015-04-04 14:07 +0000
                Re: Importing from wordlists. Paul Rubin <no.email@nospam.invalid> - 2015-04-04 14:02 -0700
                Re: Importing from wordlists. Melzzzzz <mel@zzzzz.com> - 2015-04-05 00:36 +0200
                Re: Importing from wordlists. Hans-Peter Diettrich <DrDiettrich1@aol.com> - 2015-04-04 04:35 +0200
                Re: Importing from wordlists. anton@mips.complang.tuwien.ac.at (Anton Ertl) - 2015-04-04 13:30 +0000
                Re: Importing from wordlists. albert@spenarnc.xs4all.nl (Albert van der Horst) - 2015-04-04 16:38 +0000
                Re: Importing from wordlists. Hans-Peter Diettrich <DrDiettrich1@aol.com> - 2015-04-04 16:48 +0200
                Re: Importing from wordlists. "Alex McDonald" <blog@rivadpm.com> - 2015-04-03 23:49 +0100
                Re: Importing from wordlists. "Elizabeth D. Rather" <erather@forth.com> - 2015-04-03 14:09 -1000
                Re: Importing from wordlists. "Alex McDonald" <blog@rivadpm.com> - 2015-04-04 20:30 +0100
                Re: Importing from wordlists. hughaguilar96@gmail.com - 2015-04-04 13:29 -0700
                Re: Importing from wordlists. Johan Kotlinski <kotlinski@gmail.com> - 2015-04-03 23:57 -0700
                Re: Importing from wordlists. "Elizabeth D. Rather" <erather@forth.com> - 2015-04-03 21:35 -1000
                Re: Importing from wordlists. krishna.myneni@ccreweb.org - 2015-04-04 10:00 -0700
                Re: Importing from wordlists. Melzzzzz <mel@zzzzz.com> - 2015-04-04 19:08 +0200
                Re: Importing from wordlists. Coos Haak <chforth@hccnet.nl> - 2015-04-02 22:45 +0200
                Re: Importing from wordlists. Bernd Paysan <bernd.paysan@gmx.de> - 2015-04-03 02:08 +0200
                Re: Importing from wordlists. Gerry Jackson <gerry@jackson9000.fsnet.co.uk> - 2015-04-02 20:59 +0100
                Re: Importing from wordlists. Bernd Paysan <bernd.paysan@gmx.de> - 2015-04-03 02:03 +0200
                Re: Importing from wordlists. Gerry Jackson <gerry@jackson9000.fsnet.co.uk> - 2015-04-03 20:52 +0100
                Re: Importing from wordlists. Gerry Jackson <gerry@jackson9000.fsnet.co.uk> - 2015-04-09 12:39 +0100
                Re: Importing from wordlists. albert@spenarnc.xs4all.nl (Albert van der Horst) - 2015-04-01 15:03 +0000
                Re: Importing from wordlists. albert@spenarnc.xs4all.nl (Albert van der Horst) - 2015-04-01 01:10 +0000
                Re: Importing from wordlists. Gerry Jackson <gerry@jackson9000.fsnet.co.uk> - 2015-04-01 07:32 +0100
                Re: Importing from wordlists. anton@mips.complang.tuwien.ac.at (Anton Ertl) - 2015-04-01 07:52 +0000
                Re: Importing from wordlists. albert@spenarnc.xs4all.nl (Albert van der Horst) - 2015-04-01 10:39 +0000
                SYNONYM (wase: Importing from wordlists.) anton@mips.complang.tuwien.ac.at (Anton Ertl) - 2015-04-01 11:29 +0000
                Re: SYNONYM (wase: Importing from wordlists.) albert@spenarnc.xs4all.nl (Albert van der Horst) - 2015-04-01 15:08 +0000
                Re: Importing from wordlists. "Alex McDonald" <blog@rivadpm.com> - 2015-04-01 15:49 +0100
                Re: Importing from wordlists. anton@mips.complang.tuwien.ac.at (Anton Ertl) - 2015-04-01 17:12 +0000
                Re: Importing from wordlists. "Alex McDonald" <blog@rivadpm.com> - 2015-04-01 18:45 +0100
                Re: Importing from wordlists. Gerry Jackson <gerry@jackson9000.fsnet.co.uk> - 2015-04-01 20:43 +0100
  Re: Importing from wordlists. mhx@iae.nl (Marcel Hendrix) - 2015-04-04 09:53 +0200
    Re: Importing from wordlists. anton@mips.complang.tuwien.ac.at (Anton Ertl) - 2015-04-04 14:20 +0000
      Re: Importing from wordlists. albert@spenarnc.xs4all.nl (Albert van der Horst) - 2015-04-04 17:10 +0000
        Re: Importing from wordlists. mhx@iae.nl - 2015-04-04 11:25 -0700

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