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| From | Bernd Paysan <bernd.paysan@gmx.de> |
|---|---|
| Newsgroups | comp.lang.forth |
| Subject | Re: 8 queens problem in Oforth |
| Date | 2015-03-23 01:03 +0100 |
| Organization | A noiseless patient Spider |
| Message-ID | <menl66$ade$1@dont-email.me> (permalink) |
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Paul Rubin wrote: > Bernd Paysan <bernd.paysan@gmx.de> writes: >> Coos Haak and I have posted such a compose. And it's dictionary space. > Yes, I saw those examples after posting. > >> The usual Forth style for this sort of operation is to generate the >> composed xts you need during compilation or at startup, and not >> dynamically whenever you want them. > > Sure, that's fine, but it means they're not first-class values the way > numbers are. Programs dynamically make new numbers all the time. That's not the point here. You want to create a tuple of two (or maybe even more) xts, and either you keep that tuple on stack, and write a 2execute : 2execute ( ... xt1 xt2 -- ... ) >r execute r> execute ; to perform it (then the tuple can be kept on stack), or you want to create a concatenated version, which needs memory - when you do that with two numbers in Forth, it's the same, you need memory for that, too. > Languages with first class functions can do the same thing with > functions. SICP has good examples of using that to implement OOP-like > functionality in Scheme. The objects are function closures, and you > invoke operations on them by calling the functions, passing the method > and invocation parameters as arguments to the function. So you are > constantly making and freeing new functions. This is obviously not > typical Forth style. Sure, that would be stupid to do it that way. Forth OOP works different, you allocate a piece of memory for the object's data, and have a vtable (or some other dispatch mechanism) to get from the object pointer to the method you want to call. That works pretty well within the concepts Forth provides, and doesn't work with the concepts Scheme provides you. -- Bernd Paysan "If you want it done right, you have to do it yourself" http://bernd-paysan.de/ net2o ID: kQusJzA;7*?t=uy@X}1GWr!+0qqp_Cn176t4(dQ*
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8 queens problem in Oforth "WJ" <w_a_x_man@yahoo.com> - 2015-03-19 07:53 +0000
Re: 8 queens problem in Oforth Paul Rubin <no.email@nospam.invalid> - 2015-03-19 08:58 -0700
Re: 8 queens problem in Oforth Doug Hoffman <glidedog@gmail.com> - 2015-03-20 08:16 -0400
Re: 8 queens problem in Oforth anton@mips.complang.tuwien.ac.at (Anton Ertl) - 2015-03-21 10:11 +0000
Re: 8 queens problem in Oforth franck.bensusan@gmail.com - 2015-03-21 03:45 -0700
Re: 8 queens problem in Oforth Paul Rubin <no.email@nospam.invalid> - 2015-03-21 14:14 -0700
Re: 8 queens problem in Oforth franck.bensusan@gmail.com - 2015-03-21 14:28 -0700
Re: 8 queens problem in Oforth Paul Rubin <no.email@nospam.invalid> - 2015-03-21 14:38 -0700
Re: 8 queens problem in Oforth franck.bensusan@gmail.com - 2015-03-21 15:15 -0700
Re: 8 queens problem in Oforth hughaguilar96@gmail.com - 2015-03-21 18:23 -0700
Re: 8 queens problem in Oforth franck.bensusan@gmail.com - 2015-03-22 03:03 -0700
Re: 8 queens problem in Oforth hughaguilar96@gmail.com - 2015-03-22 14:04 -0700
Re: 8 queens problem in Oforth franck.bensusan@gmail.com - 2015-03-22 16:34 -0700
Re: 8 queens problem in Oforth hughaguilar96@gmail.com - 2015-03-22 21:49 -0700
Re: 8 queens problem in Oforth Raimond Dragomir <raimond.dragomir@gmail.com> - 2015-03-23 00:05 -0700
Re: 8 queens problem in Oforth hughaguilar96@gmail.com - 2015-03-23 21:43 -0700
Re: 8 queens problem in Oforth franck.bensusan@gmail.com - 2015-03-24 04:13 -0700
Re: 8 queens problem in Oforth franck.bensusan@gmail.com - 2015-03-23 00:17 -0700
Re: 8 queens problem in Oforth Paul Rubin <no.email@nospam.invalid> - 2015-03-21 19:47 -0700
Re: 8 queens problem in Oforth franck.bensusan@gmail.com - 2015-03-22 08:41 -0700
Re: 8 queens problem in Oforth Paul Rubin <no.email@nospam.invalid> - 2015-03-22 13:37 -0700
Re: 8 queens problem in Oforth Bernd Paysan <bernd.paysan@gmx.de> - 2015-03-22 18:13 +0100
Re: 8 queens problem in Oforth Paul Rubin <no.email@nospam.invalid> - 2015-03-22 13:55 -0700
Re: 8 queens problem in Oforth "Alex McDonald" <blog@rivadpm.com> - 2015-03-22 21:08 +0000
Re: 8 queens problem in Oforth Paul Rubin <no.email@nospam.invalid> - 2015-03-22 14:39 -0700
Re: 8 queens problem in Oforth Paul Rubin <no.email@nospam.invalid> - 2015-03-22 14:50 -0700
Re: 8 queens problem in Oforth Bernd Paysan <bernd.paysan@gmx.de> - 2015-03-22 22:58 +0100
Re: 8 queens problem in Oforth Paul Rubin <no.email@nospam.invalid> - 2015-03-22 15:13 -0700
Re: 8 queens problem in Oforth Bernd Paysan <bernd.paysan@gmx.de> - 2015-03-23 01:03 +0100
Re: 8 queens problem in Oforth Paul Rubin <no.email@nospam.invalid> - 2015-03-22 17:33 -0700
Re: 8 queens problem in Oforth Bernd Paysan <bernd.paysan@gmx.de> - 2015-03-23 02:37 +0100
Re: 8 queens problem in Oforth hughaguilar96@gmail.com - 2015-03-22 20:53 -0700
Re: 8 queens problem in Oforth Paul Rubin <no.email@nospam.invalid> - 2015-03-22 21:11 -0700
Re: 8 queens problem in Oforth anton@mips.complang.tuwien.ac.at (Anton Ertl) - 2015-03-23 11:34 +0000
Re: 8 queens problem in Oforth albert@spenarnc.xs4all.nl (Albert van der Horst) - 2015-03-23 19:31 +0000
Re: 8 queens problem in Oforth Paul Rubin <no.email@nospam.invalid> - 2015-03-23 15:56 -0700
Re: 8 queens problem in Oforth Bernd Paysan <bernd.paysan@gmx.de> - 2015-03-24 00:38 +0100
Re: 8 queens problem in Oforth Paul Rubin <no.email@nospam.invalid> - 2015-03-23 19:08 -0700
Re: 8 queens problem in Oforth hughaguilar96@gmail.com - 2015-03-30 05:02 -0700
Re: 8 queens problem in Oforth hughaguilar96@gmail.com - 2015-03-30 05:08 -0700
Re: 8 queens problem in Oforth "Alex McDonald" <blog@rivadpm.com> - 2015-03-30 15:36 +0100
Re: 8 queens problem in Oforth Bernd Paysan <bernd.paysan@gmx.de> - 2015-03-23 16:46 +0100
Re: 8 queens problem in Oforth Paul Rubin <no.email@nospam.invalid> - 2015-03-23 15:32 -0700
Re: 8 queens problem in Oforth Bernd Paysan <bernd.paysan@gmx.de> - 2015-03-23 23:48 +0100
Re: 8 queens problem in Oforth Paul Rubin <no.email@nospam.invalid> - 2015-03-23 16:14 -0700
Re: 8 queens problem in Oforth hughaguilar96@gmail.com - 2015-03-22 17:54 -0700
Re: 8 queens problem in Oforth "Alex McDonald" <blog@rivadpm.com> - 2015-03-22 23:09 +0000
Re: 8 queens problem in Oforth Bernd Paysan <bernd.paysan@gmx.de> - 2015-03-22 22:11 +0100
Re: 8 queens problem in Oforth Paul Rubin <no.email@nospam.invalid> - 2015-03-22 14:48 -0700
Re: 8 queens problem in Oforth hughaguilar96@gmail.com - 2015-03-22 15:11 -0700
Re: 8 queens problem in Oforth anton@mips.complang.tuwien.ac.at (Anton Ertl) - 2015-03-23 11:29 +0000
Re: 8 queens problem in Oforth albert@spenarnc.xs4all.nl (Albert van der Horst) - 2015-03-23 12:20 +0000
Re: 8 queens problem in Oforth hughaguilar96@gmail.com - 2015-03-22 14:21 -0700
Re: 8 queens problem in Oforth Coos Haak <chforth@hccnet.nl> - 2015-03-22 22:30 +0100
Re: 8 queens problem in Oforth anton@mips.complang.tuwien.ac.at (Anton Ertl) - 2015-03-23 14:45 +0000
Re: 8 queens problem in Oforth Paul Rubin <no.email@nospam.invalid> - 2015-03-23 14:53 -0700
Re: 8 queens problem in Oforth "Elizabeth D. Rather" <erather@forth.com> - 2015-03-24 09:16 -1000
Re: 8 queens problem in Oforth Paul Rubin <no.email@nospam.invalid> - 2015-03-24 12:40 -0700
Re: 8 queens problem in Oforth anton@mips.complang.tuwien.ac.at (Anton Ertl) - 2015-03-30 12:24 +0000
Re: 8 queens problem in Oforth Coos Haak <chforth@hccnet.nl> - 2015-03-21 22:27 +0100
Re: 8 queens problem in Oforth "WJ" <w_a_x_man@yahoo.com> - 2015-03-19 20:31 +0000
Re: 8 queens problem in Oforth "WJ" <w_a_x_man@yahoo.com> - 2015-03-19 20:35 +0000
Re: 8 queens problem in Oforth "WJ" <w_a_x_man@yahoo.com> - 2015-03-21 17:31 +0000
Re: 8 queens problem in Oforth "WJ" <w_a_x_man@yahoo.com> - 2015-03-21 20:50 +0000
Re: 8 queens problem in Oforth "WJ" <w_a_x_man@yahoo.com> - 2015-03-21 21:52 +0000
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