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Re: ball-hours

From rickman <gnuarm@gmail.com>
Newsgroups comp.lang.forth
Subject Re: ball-hours
Date 2014-10-15 03:15 -0400
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On 10/15/2014 2:51 AM, bruce.person@gmail.com wrote:
> On Tuesday, October 14, 2014 9:25:03 PM UTC-7, rickman wrote:
>> On 10/14/2014 3:37 PM, Joerg wrote:
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>>> rickman wrote:
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>>>>
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>>>> I use a program under Win32Forth to run my test fixture.
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>>>>
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>>>
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>>> I have to go by what talent pool is available and regarding Forth that
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>>> looks pretty parched. Tomorrow I am going to meet with a new SW
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>>> contractor. For the upcoming project I need someone local because later
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>>> we'll have to work together a lot in the lab. Plus if I use my mountain
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>>> bike I can get there without a car and partially without roads :-)
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>>>
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>>> What you usually find locally is C and sometimes assembler. Occasionally
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>>> people know Basic but then that's about it.
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>>>
>>
>>> It's similar with hardware. Being able to secure local talent is a major
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>>> factor driving 8051 family designs. Unfortunately I can't do that with
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>>> the new project because I need a ton more horsepower but first I am
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>>> going to see what the SW guy is familiar with.
>>
>>
>>
>> I was actually talking about you learning a language, but either way.
>>
>>
>>
>> It is funny how in the forth community Forth is considered to be easy to
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>> learn and very facile for many tasks, especially when you need to
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>> interact with hardware or anything else where you don't have all the
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>> details clearly laid out.  But outside that community Forth is treated
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>> like a three eyed toad.
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>>
>>
>> I seem to recall that you use the 8051 because you want a 20 year
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>> product life or something like that, right?  Does that affect your
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>> talent pool?
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>>
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>> http://www.forth.com/embedded/swiftx-embedded-systems-development-tools.html?MCU=8051
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>> http://www.mpeforth.com/xc7.htm#f7targets
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>>
>>
>>   From your web page it looks like you are a half hour east of
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>> Sacramento, California in Cameron Park.
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>>
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>> I am cross posting to the forth group.  Tell us a few details and we'll
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>> see if anyone can accommodate your needs.
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>> --
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>> Rick
>
> Define "local".
>
> Is Sacramento or Grass Valley local enough?
>
> I know of a few very good Forth'ers within that local range.
>
> a Forth Person

I don't know the area.  I think the requirement is that the person be 
able to work in the lab with the guy when he needs it.  He doesn't want 
someone who can only work from far away.

I mentioned Forth to the guy and his reason for not using it was the 
lack of available talent.  Even if the perfect Forth guy shows up that 
doesn't mean he will hire him.  I think he has concerns about finding 
people in the long term.  He seems to have no trouble finding C people, 
but he hasn't worked with the ARM yet, but he wants to.  Someone who has 
experience with both 8051 and ARM CPUs would have a leg up.

The OP is a hardware guy so he doesn't do much software.

-- 

Rick

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Re: ball-hours rickman <gnuarm@gmail.com> - 2014-10-15 00:25 -0400
  Re: ball-hours bruce.person@gmail.com - 2014-10-14 23:51 -0700
    Re: ball-hours rickman <gnuarm@gmail.com> - 2014-10-15 03:15 -0400
  Re: ball-hours Joerg <news@analogconsultants.com> - 2014-10-15 05:36 -0700
    Re: ball-hours rickman <gnuarm@gmail.com> - 2014-10-15 16:22 -0400
      Re: ball-hours Joerg <news@analogconsultants.com> - 2014-10-15 16:12 -0700
        Re: ball-hours rickman <gnuarm@gmail.com> - 2014-10-15 22:48 -0400
          Re: ball-hours Joerg <news@analogconsultants.com> - 2014-10-16 11:21 -0700
            Re: ball-hours rickman <gnuarm@gmail.com> - 2014-10-16 15:24 -0400
              Re: ball-hours Joerg <news@analogconsultants.com> - 2014-10-16 13:37 -0700
                Re: ball-hours rickman <gnuarm@gmail.com> - 2014-10-16 17:42 -0400
                Re: ball-hours Joerg <news@analogconsultants.com> - 2014-10-17 07:14 -0700
                Re: ball-hours rickman <gnuarm@gmail.com> - 2014-10-17 14:03 -0400
                Re: ball-hours Joerg <news@analogconsultants.com> - 2014-10-17 12:03 -0700
                Re: ball-hours rickman <gnuarm@gmail.com> - 2014-10-17 15:23 -0400
                Re: ball-hours Joerg <news@analogconsultants.com> - 2014-10-17 12:44 -0700
                Re: ball-hours rickman <gnuarm@gmail.com> - 2014-10-17 18:37 -0400
                Re: ball-hours rickman <gnuarm@gmail.com> - 2014-10-16 20:59 -0400
                Re: ball-hours albert@spenarnc.xs4all.nl (Albert van der Horst) - 2014-10-17 08:43 +0000
                Re: ball-hours rickman <gnuarm@gmail.com> - 2014-10-17 13:53 -0400
                Re: ball-hours Joerg <news@analogconsultants.com> - 2014-10-17 07:50 -0700
        Re: ball-hours Raimond Dragomir <raimond.dragomir@gmail.com> - 2014-10-15 20:42 -0700
          Re: ball-hours rickman <gnuarm@gmail.com> - 2014-10-16 01:50 -0400
            Re: ball-hours Raimond Dragomir <raimond.dragomir@gmail.com> - 2014-10-16 00:49 -0700
              Re: ball-hours rickman <gnuarm@gmail.com> - 2014-10-16 05:14 -0400
            Re: ball-hours Joerg <news@analogconsultants.com> - 2014-10-16 11:58 -0700
        Re: ball-hours "Elizabeth D. Rather" <erather@forth.com> - 2014-10-16 08:32 -1000
          Re: ball-hours rickman <gnuarm@gmail.com> - 2014-10-16 15:32 -0400
          Re: ball-hours Joerg <news@analogconsultants.com> - 2014-10-16 13:45 -0700

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