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Re: Double integer input

From	rickman <gnuarm@gmail.com>
Newsgroups	comp.lang.forth
Subject	Re: Double integer input
Date	2013-02-24 15:01 -0500
Organization	A noiseless patient Spider
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On 2/23/2013 3:58 PM, Andrew Haley wrote:
> Anton Ertl<anton@mips.complang.tuwien.ac.at>  wrote:
>
>> Now "," is a regular Forth word, and words for dealing with two cells
>> (or doubles) are commonly formed by prepending 2 (Forth-94 has 2! 2>R
>> 2@ 2CONSTANT 2DROP 2DUP 2LITERAL 2OVER 2R>  2R@ 2ROT 2SWAP 2VARIABLE),
>> so "2," is a likely word name.
>>
>> If punctuation in word names was a mistake, the mistake was to have a
>> word called ",".
>>
>> However, I believe that having "," in numbers was a mistake.
>
> I have noticed that in some parts of Europe , is used as a decimal
> point and . used as a thousands separator.  But here, , is the
> thousands separator and it's really nice to be able to use it in
> numbers.  It makes reading large numbers much easier.  I can't see how
> "2," is going to conflict with anything.

I have seen this swapped usage and I really don't get it.  How did that 
come about?  Why does it persist?  It is confusing to me any time I try 
to communicate with someone from one of those regions.  It must drive 
people nuts when they are in closer contact across these regions.

Next you are going to tell me people drive on the left in these places 
too!  That would be a hoot, driving on the wrong side of the road... lol

No, really, why does this persist now that global communication is so 
common?  It is a fairly small minority that uses a comma for decimal and 
periods for thousand separators, no?

The whole metric vs. US measurement system nearly drives me nuts.  But 
this one is just as bad, I just don't see it as often.  About 3.576 
times less.  I'll let you figure out if that period is a thousands 
separator or a decimal point.

We can expect an xkcd page on this any day now.

-- 

Rick

Thread

Double integer input Rosangela Medeiros da Silva <rosangelamesil@gmail.com> - 2013-02-13 18:15 -0800
  Re: Double integer input Rosangela Medeiros da Silva <rosangelamesil@gmail.com> - 2013-02-14 02:07 -0800
    Re: Double integer input Coos Haak <chforth@hccnet.nl> - 2013-02-14 16:18 +0100
      Re: Double integer input Coos Haak <chforth@hccnet.nl> - 2013-02-14 16:27 +0100
      Re: Double integer input "A. K." <akk@nospam.org> - 2013-02-14 20:54 +0100
        Re: Double integer input Coos Haak <chforth@hccnet.nl> - 2013-02-14 23:20 +0100
  Re: Double integer input "Ed" <invalid@nospam.com> - 2013-02-22 11:00 +1100
    Re: Double integer input "Elizabeth D. Rather" <erather@forth.com> - 2013-02-21 14:24 -1000
      Re: Double integer input Bernd Paysan <bernd.paysan@gmx.de> - 2013-02-22 01:50 +0100
        Re: Double integer input anton@mips.complang.tuwien.ac.at (Anton Ertl) - 2013-02-22 15:35 +0000
          Re: Double integer input Bernd Paysan <bernd.paysan@gmx.de> - 2013-02-22 18:15 +0100
            Re: Double integer input stephenXXX@mpeforth.com (Stephen Pelc) - 2013-02-22 19:02 +0000
            Re: Double integer input anton@mips.complang.tuwien.ac.at (Anton Ertl) - 2013-02-23 17:27 +0000
              Re: Double integer input Bernd Paysan <bernd.paysan@gmx.de> - 2013-02-24 03:42 +0100
          Re: Double integer input "Elizabeth D. Rather" <erather@forth.com> - 2013-02-22 09:08 -1000
            Re: Double integer input anton@mips.complang.tuwien.ac.at (Anton Ertl) - 2013-02-23 16:15 +0000
              Re: Double integer input stephenXXX@mpeforth.com (Stephen Pelc) - 2013-02-23 17:35 +0000
                Re: Double integer input anton@mips.complang.tuwien.ac.at (Anton Ertl) - 2013-02-25 15:25 +0000
              Re: Double integer input albert@spenarnc.xs4all.nl (Albert van der Horst) - 2013-02-23 19:34 +0000
                Re: Double integer input "Rod Pemberton" <do_not_have@notemailnotz.cnm> - 2013-02-23 18:35 -0500
              Re: Double integer input Andrew Haley <andrew29@littlepinkcloud.invalid> - 2013-02-23 14:58 -0600
                Re: Double integer input Zbiggy <zbigniew2011REMOVE@gmail.REMOVE.com> - 2013-02-23 22:01 +0100
                Re: Double integer input albert@spenarnc.xs4all.nl (Albert van der Horst) - 2013-02-24 04:03 +0000
                Re: Double integer input "Elizabeth D. Rather" <erather@forth.com> - 2013-02-23 18:13 -1000
                Re: Double integer input Zbiggy <zbigniew2011REMOVE@gmail.REMOVE.com> - 2013-02-24 12:01 +0100
                Re: Double integer input anton@mips.complang.tuwien.ac.at (Anton Ertl) - 2013-02-25 18:09 +0000
                Re: Double integer input rickman <gnuarm@gmail.com> - 2013-02-24 15:01 -0500
                Re: Double integer input Coos Haak <chforth@hccnet.nl> - 2013-02-25 01:13 +0100
                Re: Double integer input Mark Wills <markrobertwills@yahoo.co.uk> - 2013-02-24 23:44 -0800
                Re: Double integer input rickman <gnuarm@gmail.com> - 2013-02-27 07:47 -0500
                Re: Double integer input Mark Wills <markrobertwills@yahoo.co.uk> - 2013-02-24 23:42 -0800
                Re: Double integer input Andrew Haley <andrew29@littlepinkcloud.invalid> - 2013-02-25 03:57 -0600
                Re: Double integer input albert@spenarnc.xs4all.nl (Albert van der Horst) - 2013-02-25 14:09 +0000
                Re: Double integer input Bernd Paysan <bernd.paysan@gmx.de> - 2013-02-25 16:45 +0100
                Re: Double integer input Andrew Haley <andrew29@littlepinkcloud.invalid> - 2013-02-25 18:26 -0600
                Re: Double integer input Bernd Paysan <bernd.paysan@gmx.de> - 2013-02-26 02:04 +0100
                Re: Double integer input Andrew Haley <andrew29@littlepinkcloud.invalid> - 2013-02-26 05:10 -0600
                Re: Double integer input Bernd Paysan <bernd.paysan@gmx.de> - 2013-02-26 15:31 +0100
                Re: Double integer input Andrew Haley <andrew29@littlepinkcloud.invalid> - 2013-02-26 10:28 -0600
                Re: Double integer input anton@mips.complang.tuwien.ac.at (Anton Ertl) - 2013-02-25 16:38 +0000
              Re: Double integer input rickman <gnuarm@gmail.com> - 2013-02-24 14:54 -0500
                Re: Double integer input "Elizabeth D. Rather" <erather@forth.com> - 2013-02-24 11:59 -1000
                Re: Double integer input anton@mips.complang.tuwien.ac.at (Anton Ertl) - 2013-02-25 18:11 +0000
                Re: Double integer input rickman <gnuarm@gmail.com> - 2013-02-27 07:58 -0500
                Re: Double integer input anton@mips.complang.tuwien.ac.at (Anton Ertl) - 2013-03-02 17:10 +0000
      Re: Double integer input "Ed" <invalid@nospam.com> - 2013-02-22 13:22 +1100
        Re: Double integer input "Elizabeth D. Rather" <erather@forth.com> - 2013-02-21 16:31 -1000
      Re: Double integer input Alex McDonald <blog@rivadpm.com> - 2013-02-22 04:54 -0800
        Re: Double integer input "WJ" <w_a_x_man@yahoo.com> - 2013-02-24 22:05 +0000
          Re: Double integer input Paul Rubin <no.email@nospam.invalid> - 2013-02-24 15:02 -0800
          Re: Double integer input Brad Eckert <hwfwguy@gmail.com> - 2013-02-25 09:22 -0800
            Re: Double integer input Brad Eckert <hwfwguy@gmail.com> - 2013-02-25 10:21 -0800
          Re: Double integer input Alex McDonald <blog@rivadpm.com> - 2013-02-26 07:47 -0800
        Re: Double integer input "WJ" <w_a_x_man@yahoo.com> - 2013-02-28 06:27 +0000
      Re: Double integer input Paul Rubin <no.email@nospam.invalid> - 2013-02-23 21:34 -0800
        Re: Double integer input "Elizabeth D. Rather" <erather@forth.com> - 2013-02-24 08:16 -1000

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