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| Date | 2014-02-20 06:38 -0600 |
|---|---|
| From | Richard Owlett <rowlett@pcnetinc.com> |
| Newsgroups | comp.lang.forth |
| Subject | Re: Forth reinvention |
| References | <b5ec955a-146f-41ea-a227-22e4224cab49@googlegroups.com> |
| Message-ID | <FrednZksmcDIapjOnZ2dnUVZ_o2dnZ2d@supernews.com> (permalink) |
dambere@web.de wrote:
> With regard to the discussion in 'Forth in oblivion', I have specifically asked the question what properties a Forth successor should have ?
>
> I think important are the following aspects:
>
> - switch to infix notation:
Impossible to do and yet remain FORTH [ps - I'm not shouting but
being historically accurate {hint read up on how FORTH was named ;}]
> Personally I found RPN an elegant mathematical notation both solving inconsistencies
> of traditional infix notations and ease parsing.
Thus indicating some grasp on reality.
>However, in general people have an innate aversion to the
adoption of unorthodox
> concepts nor are people able to think in abstract terms of
implementation efficiency.
And that is germane? How?
> For these psychological reasons, a RPN based programming
language can hardly interest
> a wider audience without constraint, especially since most
programmers these days are
> already grown with quite different (and much more complex)
languages compared to Forth.
With that logic the financial districts of the modern world would
not exist.
"Why?" you ask. Claustrophobes are uncomfortable in elevators,
therefore elevators
should not exist. Therefore buildings are height limited.
Recall "For want of a nail ... ..."
> - Automatic parallelization:
> The trend goes to multi core architectures. A programming language that is relieving
> the programmer from the not inconsiderable task of paralleling
programs will
> necessarily be attractive.
I don't follow your logic.
> - Lack of leadership:
> To my knowledge, there exist no central leadership with financial impact to promote
> Forth by all means. This must change.
>
And you will contribute the first million? ???
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Forth reinvention dambere@web.de - 2014-02-20 01:19 -0800
Re: Forth reinvention "Rod Pemberton" <dont_use_email@xnohavenotit.cnm> - 2014-02-20 05:07 -0500
Re: Forth reinvention "Alex McDonald" <blog@rivadpm.com> - 2014-02-20 14:56 +0000
Re: Forth reinvention "Rod Pemberton" <dont_use_email@xnohavenotit.cnm> - 2014-02-20 16:16 -0500
Re: Forth reinvention "Alex McDonald" <blog@rivadpm.com> - 2014-02-20 23:25 +0000
Re: Forth reinvention "Rod Pemberton" <dont_use_email@xnohavenotit.cnm> - 2014-02-20 20:42 -0500
Re: Forth reinvention "Alex McDonald" <blog@rivadpm.com> - 2014-02-21 12:41 +0000
Re: Forth reinvention Hans Bezemer <the.beez.speaks@gmail.com> - 2014-02-20 11:18 +0100
Re: Forth reinvention dambere@web.de - 2014-02-20 02:36 -0800
Re: Forth reinvention Hans Bezemer <the.beez.speaks@gmail.com> - 2014-02-20 17:35 +0100
Re: Forth reinvention dambere@web.de - 2014-02-20 11:34 -0800
Re: Forth reinvention "Elizabeth D. Rather" <erather@forth.com> - 2014-02-20 09:53 -1000
Re: Forth reinvention Paul Rubin <no.email@nospam.invalid> - 2014-02-20 12:23 -0800
Re: Forth reinvention dambere@web.de - 2014-02-20 14:00 -0800
Re: Forth reinvention Paul Rubin <no.email@nospam.invalid> - 2014-02-20 14:23 -0800
Re: Forth reinvention dambere@web.de - 2014-02-22 02:21 -0800
Re: Forth reinvention AKK <akk@nospam.org> - 2014-02-22 12:02 +0100
Re: Forth reinvention Andrew Haley <andrew29@littlepinkcloud.invalid> - 2014-02-21 04:38 -0600
Re: Forth reinvention Mark Wills <markrobertwills@yahoo.co.uk> - 2014-02-20 12:35 -0800
Re: Forth reinvention Paul Rubin <no.email@nospam.invalid> - 2014-02-20 13:38 -0800
Re: Forth reinvention m.a.m.hendrix@tue.nl - 2014-02-20 03:59 -0800
Re: Forth reinvention "Alex McDonald" <blog@rivadpm.com> - 2014-02-20 15:11 +0000
Re: Forth reinvention m.a.m.hendrix@tue.nl - 2014-02-20 07:41 -0800
Re: Forth reinvention Richard Owlett <rowlett@pcnetinc.com> - 2014-02-20 06:38 -0600
Re: Forth reinvention dambere@web.de - 2014-02-20 12:03 -0800
Re: Forth reinvention Julian Fondren <julian.fondren@gmail.com> - 2014-02-20 07:08 -0800
Re: Forth reinvention "Elizabeth D. Rather" <erather@forth.com> - 2014-02-20 09:37 -1000
Re: Forth reinvention "Alex McDonald" <blog@rivadpm.com> - 2014-02-20 20:50 +0000
Re: Forth reinvention "Elizabeth D. Rather" <erather@forth.com> - 2014-02-20 15:39 -1000
Re: Forth reinvention albert@spenarnc.xs4all.nl (Albert van der Horst) - 2014-02-21 10:50 +0000
Re: Forth reinvention Paul E Bennett <Paul_E.Bennett@topmail.co.uk> - 2014-02-21 11:10 +0000
Re: Forth reinvention "Alex McDonald" <blog@rivadpm.com> - 2014-02-21 13:50 +0000
Re: Forth reinvention Andrew Haley <andrew29@littlepinkcloud.invalid> - 2014-02-21 05:46 -0600
Re: Forth reinvention "Alex McDonald" <blog@rivadpm.com> - 2014-02-21 12:55 +0000
Re: Forth reinvention anton@mips.complang.tuwien.ac.at (Anton Ertl) - 2014-02-21 15:11 +0000
Re: Forth reinvention Andrew Haley <andrew29@littlepinkcloud.invalid> - 2014-02-22 09:23 -0600
Re: Forth reinvention "Alex McDonald" <blog@rivadpm.com> - 2014-02-21 12:38 +0000
Re: Forth reinvention anton@mips.complang.tuwien.ac.at (Anton Ertl) - 2014-02-22 13:29 +0000
Re: Forth reinvention "Elizabeth D. Rather" <erather@forth.com> - 2014-02-22 07:52 -1000
Re: Forth reinvention "Alex McDonald" <blog@rivadpm.com> - 2014-02-22 19:06 +0000
Re: Forth reinvention anton@mips.complang.tuwien.ac.at (Anton Ertl) - 2014-02-23 13:40 +0000
Re: Forth reinvention "Rod Pemberton" <dont_use_email@xnohavenotit.cnm> - 2014-02-20 20:40 -0500
Re: Forth reinvention "Elizabeth D. Rather" <erather@forth.com> - 2014-02-20 18:43 -1000
Re: Forth reinvention Hans Bezemer <the.beez.speaks@gmail.com> - 2014-02-21 13:16 +0100
Re: Forth reinvention stephenXXX@mpeforth.com (Stephen Pelc) - 2014-02-21 10:49 +0000
Re: Forth reinvention anton@mips.complang.tuwien.ac.at (Anton Ertl) - 2014-02-21 14:50 +0000
Re: Forth reinvention "Alex McDonald" <blog@rivadpm.com> - 2014-02-21 16:28 +0000
Re: Forth reinvention anton@mips.complang.tuwien.ac.at (Anton Ertl) - 2014-02-22 12:54 +0000
Re: Forth reinvention "Rod Pemberton" <dont_use_email@xnohavenotit.cnm> - 2014-02-22 10:27 -0500
Re: Forth reinvention "Alex McDonald" <blog@rivadpm.com> - 2014-02-22 17:49 +0000
Re: Forth reinvention Bernd Paysan <bernd.paysan@gmx.de> - 2014-02-21 20:51 +0100
Re: Forth reinvention Andrew Haley <andrew29@littlepinkcloud.invalid> - 2014-02-22 09:39 -0600
Re: Forth reinvention Bernd Paysan <bernd.paysan@gmx.de> - 2014-02-23 02:40 +0100
Re: Forth reinvention Paul Rubin <no.email@nospam.invalid> - 2014-02-22 19:24 -0800
Re: Forth reinvention Bernd Paysan <bernd.paysan@gmx.de> - 2014-02-23 22:48 +0100
Re: Forth reinvention Andrew Haley <andrew29@littlepinkcloud.invalid> - 2014-02-23 04:39 -0600
Re: Forth reinvention Bernd Paysan <bernd.paysan@gmx.de> - 2014-02-23 22:46 +0100
Re: Forth reinvention Paul Rubin <no.email@nospam.invalid> - 2014-02-23 14:26 -0800
Re: Forth reinvention Bernd Paysan <bernd.paysan@gmx.de> - 2014-02-24 02:44 +0100
Re: Forth reinvention Spam@ControlQ.com - 2014-03-03 12:43 -0500
Re: Forth reinvention Paul Rubin <no.email@nospam.invalid> - 2014-03-03 10:06 -0800
Re: Forth reinvention Andrew Haley <andrew29@littlepinkcloud.invalid> - 2014-02-24 03:59 -0600
Re: Forth reinvention mike73900@gmail.com - 2014-03-03 14:04 -0800
Re: Forth reinvention mhx@iae.nl - 2014-03-05 06:59 -0800
Re: Forth reinvention Matthias Koch <matthias.koch@hot.uni-hannover.de> - 2014-03-05 16:33 +0100
Re: Forth reinvention Mark Wills <markwills1970@gmail.com> - 2014-03-05 09:08 -0800
Re: Forth reinvention mhx@iae.nl - 2014-03-05 10:47 -0800
Re: Forth reinvention AKK <akk@nospam.org> - 2014-03-07 07:30 +0100
Re: Forth reinvention Lars Brinkhoff <lars.spam@nocrew.org> - 2014-03-07 07:55 +0100
Re: Forth reinvention albert@spenarnc.xs4all.nl (Albert van der Horst) - 2014-03-07 09:29 +0000
Re: Forth reinvention AKK <akk@nospam.org> - 2014-03-07 12:04 +0100
Re: Forth reinvention "Rod Pemberton" <dont_use_email@xnothavet.cqm> - 2014-03-07 17:03 -0500
Re: Forth reinvention Mark Wills <markwills1970@gmail.com> - 2014-03-08 05:31 -0800
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