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Re: Quotations

From Paul Rubin <no.email@nospam.invalid>
Newsgroups comp.lang.forth
Subject Re: Quotations
Date 2016-06-02 09:42 -0700
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Andrew Haley <andrew29@littlepinkcloud.invalid> writes:
> See here: dangling reference problem.  Sure, it's not difficult to
> write something which works this way, but now it's so restrictive as
> to be not worth having: you can't pass the quotation to a different
> thread, for example, without doing something to make sure the current
> word doesn't exit.  

That would be like C++11 lambda functions, a convenience feature that
has been reasonably well received afaict.  It's not a vital feature
since it does stuff that can straightforwardly also be done with named
functions.  But there are lots of use cases for it where it makes
things come out cleaner.

C++ might benefit more from it than Forth would, since C++'s heavyweight
syntax makes the cognitive burden of another named function worse than
it is in Forth.

The situations where you actually want full-blown closures can usually
also be handled with OOP, which is built into C++ and which has been
implemented many times in Forth using standard primitives.

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Quotations Raimond Dragomir <raimond.dragomir@gmail.com> - 2015-07-05 22:35 -0700
  Re: Quotations humptydumpty <ouatubi@gmail.com> - 2015-07-05 23:03 -0700
    Re: Quotations Raimond Dragomir <raimond.dragomir@gmail.com> - 2015-07-05 23:21 -0700
    Re: Quotations humptydumpty <ouatubi@gmail.com> - 2015-07-06 00:00 -0700
  Re: Quotations Raimond Dragomir <raimond.dragomir@gmail.com> - 2015-07-06 00:10 -0700
  Re: Quotations Gerry Jackson <gerry@jackson9000.fsnet.co.uk> - 2015-07-06 09:39 +0100
    Re: Quotations Raimond Dragomir <raimond.dragomir@gmail.com> - 2015-07-06 05:28 -0700
      Re: Quotations franck.bensusan@gmail.com - 2015-07-06 15:02 -0700
        Re: Quotations Raimond Dragomir <raimond.dragomir@gmail.com> - 2015-07-06 22:43 -0700
          Re: Quotations Stefan Mauerhofer <smauerhofer@androsoft.ch> - 2015-07-06 23:06 -0700
            Re: Quotations Raimond Dragomir <raimond.dragomir@gmail.com> - 2015-07-07 01:27 -0700
              Re: Quotations Stefan Mauerhofer <smauerhofer@androsoft.ch> - 2015-07-07 03:40 -0700
          Re: Quotations franck.bensusan@gmail.com - 2015-07-07 04:08 -0700
      Re: Quotations humptydumpty <ouatubi@gmail.com> - 2015-07-10 02:34 -0700
        Re: Quotations Raimond Dragomir <raimond.dragomir@gmail.com> - 2015-07-14 11:30 -0700
          Re: Quotations franck.bensusan@gmail.com - 2015-07-16 03:28 -0700
            Re: Quotations Raimond Dragomir <raimond.dragomir@gmail.com> - 2015-07-16 09:11 -0700
    Re: Quotations Paul Rubin <no.email@nospam.invalid> - 2015-07-08 12:04 -0700
  Re: Quotations humptydumpty <ouatubi@gmail.com> - 2016-05-28 13:06 -0700
  Re: Quotations humptydumpty <ouatubi@gmail.com> - 2016-05-29 02:22 -0700
    Re: Quotations humptydumpty <ouatubi@gmail.com> - 2016-05-29 10:41 -0700
      Re: Quotations franck.bensusan@gmail.com - 2016-05-29 12:38 -0700
        Re: Quotations humptydumpty <ouatubi@gmail.com> - 2016-05-29 23:03 -0700
          Re: Quotations humptydumpty <ouatubi@gmail.com> - 2016-05-30 00:34 -0700
            Re: Quotations franck.bensusan@gmail.com - 2016-05-30 03:04 -0700
              Re: Quotations humptydumpty <ouatubi@gmail.com> - 2016-05-30 03:41 -0700
                Re: Quotations franck.bensusan@gmail.com - 2016-05-30 08:26 -0700
                Re: Quotations humptydumpty <ouatubi@gmail.com> - 2016-05-30 08:46 -0700
            Re: Quotations Cecil Bayona <cbayona@cbayona.com> - 2016-05-30 10:01 -0500
              Re: Quotations humptydumpty <ouatubi@gmail.com> - 2016-05-30 08:33 -0700
          Re: Quotations franck.bensusan@gmail.com - 2016-05-30 00:44 -0700
            Re: Quotations humptydumpty <ouatubi@gmail.com> - 2016-05-30 01:03 -0700
            Re: Quotations hughaguilar96@gmail.com - 2016-06-02 22:07 -0700
              Re: Quotations humptydumpty <ouatubi@gmail.com> - 2016-06-02 23:11 -0700
                Re: Quotations hughaguilar96@gmail.com - 2016-06-03 05:18 -0700
                Re: Quotations hughaguilar96@gmail.com - 2016-06-03 05:28 -0700
                Re: Quotations hughaguilar96@gmail.com - 2016-06-03 05:56 -0700
          Re: Quotations anton@mips.complang.tuwien.ac.at (Anton Ertl) - 2016-05-30 15:24 +0000
            Re: Quotations humptydumpty <ouatubi@gmail.com> - 2016-05-30 11:33 -0700
              Re: Quotations anton@mips.complang.tuwien.ac.at (Anton Ertl) - 2016-06-01 14:23 +0000
            Re: Quotations humptydumpty <ouatubi@gmail.com> - 2016-05-30 11:46 -0700
              Re: Quotations anton@mips.complang.tuwien.ac.at (Anton Ertl) - 2016-06-01 14:27 +0000
                Re: Quotations hughaguilar96@gmail.com - 2016-06-01 07:53 -0700
            Re: Quotations humptydumpty <ouatubi@gmail.com> - 2016-05-30 12:43 -0700
              Re: Quotations humptydumpty <ouatubi@gmail.com> - 2016-05-31 13:25 -0700
                Re: Quotations hughaguilar96@gmail.com - 2016-05-31 16:57 -0700
                Re: Quotations hughaguilar96@gmail.com - 2016-05-31 19:33 -0700
                Re: Quotations humptydumpty <ouatubi@gmail.com> - 2016-06-01 03:20 -0700
                Re: Quotations humptydumpty <ouatubi@gmail.com> - 2016-06-01 03:15 -0700
              Re: Quotations anton@mips.complang.tuwien.ac.at (Anton Ertl) - 2016-06-01 14:29 +0000
                Re: Quotations hughaguilar96@gmail.com - 2016-06-01 08:20 -0700
                Re: Quotations hughaguilar96@gmail.com - 2016-06-01 18:59 -0700
                Re: Quotations "WJ" <w_a_x_man@yahoo.com> - 2016-06-02 06:05 +0000
                Re: Quotations alex@rivadpm.com - 2016-06-09 09:59 -0700
                Re: Quotations "WJ" <w_a_x_man@yahoo.com> - 2016-06-09 17:47 +0000
                Re: Quotations humptydumpty <ouatubi@gmail.com> - 2016-06-01 09:12 -0700
                Re: Quotations "HAA" <someone@microsoft.com> - 2016-06-02 12:45 +1000
                Re: Quotations Andrew Haley <andrew29@littlepinkcloud.invalid> - 2016-06-02 04:42 -0500
                Re: Quotations Raimond Dragomir <raimond.dragomir@gmail.com> - 2016-06-02 05:08 -0700
                Re: Quotations Paul Rubin <no.email@nospam.invalid> - 2016-06-02 06:53 -0700
                Re: Quotations anton@mips.complang.tuwien.ac.at (Anton Ertl) - 2016-06-02 13:54 +0000
                Re: Quotations hughaguilar96@gmail.com - 2016-06-02 13:09 -0700
                Re: Quotations "HAA" <someone@microsoft.com> - 2016-06-04 12:45 +1000
                Re: Quotations hughaguilar96@gmail.com - 2016-06-03 20:52 -0700
                Re: Quotations anton@mips.complang.tuwien.ac.at (Anton Ertl) - 2016-06-04 15:05 +0000
                Re: Quotations hughaguilar96@gmail.com - 2016-06-06 01:41 -0700
                Re: Quotations anton@mips.complang.tuwien.ac.at (Anton Ertl) - 2016-06-06 13:12 +0000
                Re: Quotations hughaguilar96@gmail.com - 2016-06-06 08:29 -0700
                Re: Quotations anton@mips.complang.tuwien.ac.at (Anton Ertl) - 2016-06-07 06:06 +0000
                Re: Quotations mhx@iae.nl - 2016-06-06 10:51 -0700
                Re: Quotations anton@mips.complang.tuwien.ac.at (Anton Ertl) - 2016-06-07 06:36 +0000
                Re: Quotations hughaguilar96@gmail.com - 2016-06-07 00:44 -0700
                Re: Quotations mhx@iae.nl - 2016-06-07 11:35 -0700
                Re: Quotations anton@mips.complang.tuwien.ac.at (Anton Ertl) - 2016-06-08 07:14 +0000
                Re: Quotations hughaguilar96@gmail.com - 2016-06-09 00:58 -0700
                Re: Quotations "WJ" <w_a_x_man@yahoo.com> - 2016-06-09 11:37 +0000
                Re: Quotations Paul Rubin <no.email@nospam.invalid> - 2016-06-07 12:37 -0700
                Re: Quotations hughaguilar96@gmail.com - 2016-06-07 19:03 -0700
                Re: Quotations Andrew Haley <andrew29@littlepinkcloud.invalid> - 2016-06-02 11:12 -0500
                Re: Quotations Paul Rubin <no.email@nospam.invalid> - 2016-06-02 09:42 -0700
                Re: Quotations Andrew Haley <andrew29@littlepinkcloud.invalid> - 2016-06-03 02:53 -0500
                Re: Quotations Paul Rubin <no.email@nospam.invalid> - 2016-06-03 23:00 -0700
                Re: Quotations Andrew Haley <andrew29@littlepinkcloud.invalid> - 2016-06-04 04:37 -0500
                Re: Quotations Paul Rubin <no.email@nospam.invalid> - 2016-06-05 19:12 -0700
                Re: Quotations Paul Rubin <no.email@nospam.invalid> - 2016-06-05 21:20 -0700
                Re: Quotations franck.bensusan@gmail.com - 2016-06-09 02:55 -0700
                Re: Quotations hughaguilar96@gmail.com - 2016-06-09 19:20 -0700
                Re: Quotations franck.bensusan@gmail.com - 2016-06-10 07:00 -0700
                Re: Quotations hughaguilar96@gmail.com - 2016-06-10 10:00 -0700
                Re: Quotations franck.bensusan@gmail.com - 2016-06-10 10:56 -0700
                Re: Quotations hughaguilar96@gmail.com - 2016-06-10 17:56 -0700
                Re: Quotations Mark Wills <markwills1970@gmail.com> - 2016-06-14 05:18 -0700
                Re: Quotations hughaguilar96@gmail.com - 2016-06-26 16:12 -0700
                Re: Quotations hughaguilar96@gmail.com - 2016-06-02 12:41 -0700
                Re: Quotations humptydumpty <ouatubi@gmail.com> - 2016-06-02 13:03 -0700
                Re: Quotations anton@mips.complang.tuwien.ac.at (Anton Ertl) - 2016-06-02 13:37 +0000
                Re: Quotations Andrew Haley <andrew29@littlepinkcloud.invalid> - 2016-06-08 04:33 -0500
                Re: Quotations anton@mips.complang.tuwien.ac.at (Anton Ertl) - 2016-06-08 09:39 +0000
                Re: Quotations Andrew Haley <andrew29@littlepinkcloud.invalid> - 2016-06-08 05:53 -0500
                Re: Quotations anton@mips.complang.tuwien.ac.at (Anton Ertl) - 2016-06-08 11:30 +0000
                Re: Quotations Andrew Haley <andrew29@littlepinkcloud.invalid> - 2016-06-08 08:11 -0500
                Re: Quotations hughaguilar96@gmail.com - 2016-06-09 01:09 -0700
      Re: Quotations humptydumpty <ouatubi@gmail.com> - 2016-05-30 08:54 -0700
    Re: Quotations hughaguilar96@gmail.com - 2016-05-31 12:06 -0700
      Re: Quotations humptydumpty <ouatubi@gmail.com> - 2016-05-31 13:41 -0700
      Re: Quotations "WJ" <w_a_x_man@yahoo.com> - 2016-05-31 21:09 +0000
  Lambdas (closures) "WJ" <w_a_x_man@yahoo.com> - 2016-06-09 17:18 +0000

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